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Is IT Work Getting More Stressful, Or Is It the Millennials?

dcblogs writes: A survey of IT professionals that has been conducted in each of the last four years is showing an increase in IT work stress levels. It's a small survey, just over 200 IT workers, and it doesn't account for the age of the respondents. But some are asking whether Millennials, those ages 18 to 34, are pushing up stress levels either as IT workers or end users. The reason Millennials may be less able to handle stress is that they interact with others in person far less than other generations do, since most of their social interactions have been through Internet-based, arms-length contact, said Billie Blair, who holds a doctorate in organizational psychology. This generation has also been protected from many real-life situations by their parents, "so the workplace tends to be more stressful for them than for others," she said. Others are wondering if Millennials are more demanding of IT workers. Millennials are also expert users, and "are no longer in awe of technology specialists and therefore demand higher service levels," said Mitch Ellis, managing director of executive search firm Sanford Rose Associates in St. Louis.

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  1. sampling bias by Sadsfae · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lots of conclusions drawn from a very small sampling size, there may be some truth to these generalizations but I'd prefer to see more data.

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    1. Re:sampling bias by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When it comes to older generations thinking younger generations are whiney, lazy, idiots sample size doesn't matter.

      Old people almost always think that. I am not sure if it is a product of getting old, jealousy of the young, or what.

      But you can read newspapers from 100 years ago that had the same articles in them.

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    2. Re:sampling bias by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It could very well be that they're right ( the old people ).

      When I started training the new employees ( 18-25 ), I noticed how much bitching and moaning they did. It was shocking, really. Enough so that I stopped and thought about it, and realized that when I was first entering the work force I did much the same thing.

      Maybe I'm old, and maybe you kids really should get the fuck off my lawn, but young adults DO whine incessantly.

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    3. Re: sampling bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except the problem is that with all this technology, accountability and expectations on the low end of the corporate structure are increasing. Phone calls and other untraceable communications can lead to someone changing the requirements or communicating them badly without any recourse for the person on the receiving end. In other words, if millennials get the old saying "always get it in writing" intuitively, that is not an argument against them but an outstanding mark on their ability to understand the world around them.

    4. Re:sampling bias by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Old people are different than young people. Naturally, each group believes that the differences in question make them superior to the other group.

      True in many ways....HOWEVER, this latest generation has been more coddled and has more of an entitlement attitude than previous generations. They seem to feel "owed" by society a job, and to be treated nicely and fairly. They are the generation of everyone getting a trophy just for showing up.

      This was not something as prevalent in pevious generations, where when growing up, people DID keep score, there were winners and loser, parent spanked kids when they fucked up, neighbors had just as much a hand in disciplining kids in the neighborhoods as the parents....and kids grew up more independently than they do now.

      Hell, my parents in today's society likely would have hand child services called on them...they spanked my ass when I was bad. They both worked and I entertained myself much more...I played with the other kids in the neighborhood. I often left the house (unescorted) during the summer in the morning and showed back up at home in time for dinner. I rode my bike and skateboard for miles away from home.

      I didn't even have a cell phone, but was under orders to call in (when very young) every hour or so from wherever I was at a neighbor friends' home.

      I played and LOST football games, I didn't always get congratulated JUST for trying. I got praise for winning. I had fun, I interacted with numerous friends in the neighborhood I grew up with and got praise for success and well, it sucked when I lost but I learned how to deal with it and deal with all types of people. I got my first job washing dishes at a restaurant when I was 16+ or so, and worked all during high school on weekends and some week nights, but had to keep my grades up to keep the job and enjoy that extra $$$.

      Yes....every generation gets to a point where it doesn't understand the next one that well, but I think we have a bona fide GAP in how folks in the US have been raised in a very sharp and distinct manner with the mils.

      Let's face it...the term "helicopter parent" is a very new term. And it is sadly accurate, and I think has had a very detrimental effect on this new generation of folks just growing up enough to set foot in the real world that doesn't really give a shit about your showing up. That is expected....

      It is what you do after you show up that earns the dollars and you ARE in competition for real with everyone you are in the workforce with.

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    5. Re:sampling bias by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The latest generation works harder, for longer hours, with higher productivity, than any other generation before them and is the first generation in history to be worse off than their parents.

      They're stressed because they're being fucked AND blamed for it at the same time.

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    6. Re:sampling bias by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      first generation in history to be worse off than their parents.

      Very true, as long as you believe that history started in 1945.

    7. Re:sampling bias by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The latest generation works harder, for longer hours, with higher productivity, than any other generation before them and is the first generation in history to be worse off than their parents.

      I don't seen that in the Mils I've run into. Perhaps for the generations just prior to them, I see the hard work still, etc...but the youngest ones just in the workforce the past 3-5 years, nope, they expect a high paying job and don't understand you have to work and COMPETE for the money and job.

      Just my experience seeing the workforce I started in and quite a few subsequent ones coming in under me....the latest one has real problems.

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    8. Re:sampling bias by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Back when I was young I remember one of the older guys feeling the same way you do when I asked a lot of questions. He saw it as whining, but I was actually just trying to get a full understanding of the issues and why things are done the way they are, not complain about them.

      Having said that, I did used to complain a bit more than I do now, but only because now I'm just resigned to the fact that everything is shit. They tell you to work hard and achieve your potential and everything will be great, but it's a lie! Coming to accept that when you have spent literally your entire life trying to better yourself and get qualified for these wonderful opportunities can be hard.

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  2. Demand for 24/7 systems without paying for them by swb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think some of it is the demand that everything work, all the time, without any room for maintenance while at the same time not being willing to pay for the resources to deliver systems that can provide that.

  3. Staffing Cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    During the recession, many firms cut jobs and made 10 people do the work of 15. That saves money and resulted in no quantifiable loss in productivity of the group, so the firms never rehired the people they got rid of. How would this not be a more stressful work environment?

  4. Re:Yes by captjc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    They drive up the stress levels for the rest of us, coming in thinking they know everything, implementing stupid fucking ideas that never pan out, then buggering off to another company before implementation is complete and without any strategy for support or long-term maintenance. Their turnover rates are routinely cited as reasons why our jobs are being shopped off shore, which just adds to the stress.

    Funny, most of the people I know who are doing that are usually 40-50 year old MBA managers and CXX-titled executives.

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  5. "Do more with less" by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Do more with less, and with fewer coworkers with less experience. You have four weeks of paid vacation, but no backup (fewer coworkers, less experience), so if there's a problem, you need to fix it on vacation, so your vacation needs to be a stay-cation." -New corporate management motto.

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  6. Of course it's getting more stressful by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except for a few top guys and the occasional person who wins the lottery in life pay is what is was 20 years ago after 20 years of inflation. Companies are merging left and right and everytime they do it's another round of layoffs. Offshoring and onshoring (via H1-B) are nuts. If you work in IT you're probably seeing something like a 70% Indian workforce with only the occasional American to fill a spot when they ran out of visas. Meanwhile it's a statisical fact that productively is way way up, meaning you're doing more work. Even if the tools are better it still means you're responsible for a hell of a lot more. How the hell would that _not_ be stressful?

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    1. Re:Of course it's getting more stressful by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      THIS! rsilvergun is 100% correct here.

      I commented already on here about my thoughts on the original topic, but the bigger, underlying issue is definitely tied to the pay rate not really keeping up with inflation. With one of the career jobs most people consider "among the better paying", like I.T., it can really sneak up on you too.

      I remember working for a place in the 90's doing server and PC support, feeling I was underpaid but enjoying the other aspects of the job enough not to care. But when I finally moved on, I realized I couldn't find work doing the same thing where my salary was going to be that much higher than what I was making before. (Combination of the dot com crash and economic depression around that time AND the fact that everyone wants to know what you made where you worked previously, and tries not to pay you much more than that.)

      Like a lot of people though, I eventually settled for what they were offering so I could at least stay gainfully employed, and believed all the promises of future bonuses and compensation for hard work. But life marches on, even if pay raises don't.... All of a sudden, I'm older and have a whole family I'm responsible for. Things I never cared about before like having a bigger house with a few bedrooms in it and more than one bathroom became big deals (not to mention having to worry about living in a "good school district", vs. just living where you could live cheap).

      Wound up not only switching jobs but relocating to get the "better paying" position, only to find cost of living was so much higher where I went, it negated most of the pay increase. One day, you just wake up and say, "WTF man!? I have 20+ years of experience, yet my overall lifestyle and buying power really feels about the same as what it was 10-15 years earlier. I know I'm *doing* way more complex stuff that should offer employers more value, but I'm just treading water."

  7. A question of pacing by stox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many places are trying to adopt styles/methods/etc that are well suited to a startup in manic phase. They don't seem to realize that you can't keep this up indefinitely. Just dump bodies in the meat grinder, and code comes out the other end.

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  8. Millennials will have a very rough landing by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've seen it time and again, with the people around me who insisted to spawn child processes. The mix of helicopter parents who would not only ensure no "bad" experience would ever happen to their little precious but also made certain that anyone not seeing their brat as the special snowflake they are will get their banshee like fury, coupled with a school system that promoted feeling good and "everyone's a winner", where you would already get rewarded for showing up, whether you can actually accomplish anything or are essentially a useless waste of oxygen, that can only lead to a VERY hard fall when they come into contact with reality.

    These people are by definition not going to be able to handle stress, or even any kind of frustrating experience, well. They are by no means prepared to it. And no, that's not true for everyone born in this age of overprotectionism, but it's never been as bad as it is today.

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  9. No. You're dumb. Stop being dumb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm in my thirties. I can attest that twenty somethings freak out like little bitches and make non-issues into epic sources of pointless, unnecessary stress.

    Just like they did when I was a twenty something.

    Just like the 40+ crowd did when they were twenty-something.

    Just like they have been doing for generations.

    You're seriously talking about kids who have just left University of Daycare and are stepping into the big bad real world for the first time. They're not established. They don't have stable careers. They have no real life experience. Give 'em a decade and I'm sure we'll be treated to another asinine buzzword declaring that yet another generation is completely incomprehensible to everyone in spite of simple human nature being very easily understood.

  10. This goes back to why one should hire an old fart by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stress in the workplace has always existed. Granted, this generation tends to communicate more but using tools such as Instagram and Twitter where the communications are short, don't convey much information and are non-personal. Granted, the older generation used email (after the memo went the way of the dinosaur)- primarily to put the discussion into a more formal written form. The phone or in-person conversation allows one to hear the emotion and concerns of the other party. It's easier to resolve issues when speaking with the other parties than to try to hash it out over email or some chat technology for all but the simplest of issues.

    The other night, there was the discussion on why hiring an older person wasn't such a good idea with one person insinuated they (older workers) wouldn't work late nights on a regular basis to get the project done. Someone with experience knows that proper planning and design can alleviate most of those late night coding cycles. As such, they are inclined to find a better balance between home and work and still get their work done without burning the candle at both ends. They also know when late night exercises ARE useful or necessary.

    What we old fogies have a hard time dealing with is being treated (along with our coworkers) like a disposable napkin. Workplaces that foster that attitude coupled with limited human interactivity breeds stress. And, that stress doesn't know generational boundaries.

  11. Re:yeah.. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering the extent of ageism in IT (why keep an old-timer who will only work their 40 hours per week and won't put up with sh*t when we can hire 2 kids at half the price and burn them out) it's more likely that the pile of defective garbage is designed and implemented by the young'uns.

    25 years ago software wasn't shipped with continuous patching over the Internet in mind. It had to mostly work as promised because the cost of sending out patch disks was a lot higher. Today, the attitude is "ship it, we'll patch it later." That attitude doesn't come from old coders and product managers who took pride in their work and were in it for the long haul, rather than the quick cash-out.

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  12. Back in my day, we all died by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was a kid, we didn't have any of those sissy antibiotics. When we got sick, our grandmothers would perform extreme unction on us and then leave us on the roof overnight. If we were strong enough to climb down in the morning we got breakfast. If not, we got buried. It made us learn the meaning of a dollar, because for a dollar my sister would bring me a snack up there and leave the ladder against the side of the house. And there was none of this mp3 youtube nonsense. If we wanted music, we had burn the barn down and dance to the crackling fire. I can still beatbox a three-alarm blaze. And sex? We didn't have sex. We just set the women folk up on the roof and if they had the strength to climb down in the morning, grandpa would take them out to the barn and make them pregnant. And that also taught us the meaning of a dollar, because for a dollar, he'd let us hide under the hayloft to watch for Zeus to appear in the shape of a bull to impregnate the females. And if any of us showed any visible signs of arousal, we got beaten with a sickle and our parts were left on the roof to die.

    The kids these days don't know how good they got it with their quarter million dollar school loans to prepare them for jobs that don't exist or go to internet scammers in Bangalore. They don't realize how lucky they are not to have to worry about privacy any more, because by god there is none. They make me sick, with their rising sea levels and paint thinner in the water supply and multinational tech companies tracking their every movement. Because when I was a kid, my total lack of self-awareness convinced me that I got where I am today only because of my hard work and talent.

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