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Will Robot Cars Need Windows?

An anonymous reader writes: The Atlantic has an article asking whether autonomous cars need windows. If there's no driver, will the passengers want to look outside? In the summer, will anyone want to endure the relentless heat from the sun? The robot cars offer us a great opportunity to rethink the platform which is largely devoted to supporting the driver. But if a computer is in charge and it sees with dozens of cameras ringing the car, what else can we change? What else don't we need? What can improve?

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  1. carsickness by blindbat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People who get car sick need windows. Nuff said.

    1. Re:carsickness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also claustrophobia.

      There is a reason why trains, even underground trains, have windows.

    2. Re:carsickness by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a novel thought - make both types, with and without windows. Then let the market decide!

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    3. Re:carsickness by JourneymanMereel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People who get car sick need windows. Nuff said.

      Pretty much. Did passenger cars in trains need windows? Do airplanes need windows? Do houses need windows?

      Obviously the windows in today's cars need to provide a LOT of visibility so the driver can see as much as possible. But taking away a driver's need to see doesn't take a way the need for windows.

      I honestly can't believe this is even a question.

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    4. Re:carsickness by robbyb20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would find it detrimental to not have windows for one reason alone, being able to see THRU cars. Think about driving behind a large truck/van/other large vehicle that you cant see past. Thing of how hard it is to know whats directly in front of you beyond that other car. Then, think about when youre pulling out a parking lot where you need to see past the car next to you to gauge the traffic coming from that direction. If youre in a smaller car, you need to inch up to see over their hood, with windowless cars, EVERY car would need to start inching up.

      TL;dr - Windows are not purely for the passenger of the car, they also provide visibility thru the car.

    5. Re:carsickness by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What are they going to get rid of next....?

      Are they also going to throw out convertible and targa roofs on autos?

      Geez, more and more I hope this driverless car thing doesn't take over and become *mandatory* my driving lifetime.

      I've never owned anything but 2-seater sports cars, I don't think of driving as just a drudge, I actually have an adventure every time I fire up the engine and go for a drive!!!

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  2. Yes. by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The passengers in a plane do not need windows but clearly because planes have windows at considerable cost to design properly (remember the Dehavilland Comet?) there's clearly a want for them to be there.

    Passengers in cars will want the option of looking out. One can even argue that scenic drives with an autonomous car would be much safer because there's no driver to split his attention between the view and the act of operating the vehicle.

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  3. Drive-throughs by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are plenty of reasons (beyond merely operating the vehicle) to need windows:

    • Carsickness, as you mentioned
    • Being able to use drive-through windows
    • Ventilation
    • Scenery (which is better with an autonomous car, because the person who would otherwise be driving can enjoy it too!)
    • Carrying stuff that sticks out a little
    • Being able to yell at the idiot driver of the (non-autonomous) car in the lane next to you
    • And finally, driving, when going off-road or other situations in which the autopilot fails or can't be used (I assume any autonomous car is going to end up having manual backup controls, at least for the foreseeable future)
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    1. Re:Drive-throughs by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In aircraft, windows for passengers add a lot of expense and structural weakness. Yet aircraft still have them. Passengers don't want to feel boxed in, and just want to enjoy the view. For SDCs, windows will be necessary for quite a while in case the driver needs/wants to take over.

    2. Re:Drive-throughs by _merlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Window blinds have to be raised for safety reasons during take-off/landing because sometimes a passenger will be able to see something important or dangerous. Windows do provide some safety as well.

  4. Re:Back seats have windows in the door by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Technically, the driver of a car never uses the windows in the door of the back seats.

    I really don't want to be on the same road as you when you change lanes on the non-driving side...

  5. Why are we asking this... by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...when we are not ready to mitigate every single scenario in which a human driver would need to take over and drive in an emergency?

    I mean seriously, we're not even close to answering that. Therefore, humans will still need things like windows and mirrors.

  6. airplanes have windows by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Airliners only need one set of windows at the front, for the pilots. But there's a row of windows on either side, and the seats next to those windows are the second-most-popular (after those on the aisle) despite the fact that they're the most difficult to get in and out of, have no access to the overhead bins, and offer less head/foot room. See also: trains, buses, passenger ferries. So I think the answer is yes: robot cars will still have windows.

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  7. Seating arrangements by Frag-A-Muffin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the seats on the cross-country trains (VIA up here in Canada). They have pairs of seats that can swivel, to make them face another pair of seats. A fold out table creates a nice surface for a nice game of cards, or whatever you fancy. You could even have meetings while driving to a destination. So many possibilities when you don't have to stare at the back of someone's head!

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  8. Really? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Atlantic has an article asking whether autonomous cars need windows....

    There are windows on space capsules.

    There are windows on railroad passenger cars.

    There are windows in houses.

    .

    My guess is that people, in general, like to look outside.

  9. Re:OT: Dogs by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is safest practice for all concerned.

    So is not going anywhere at all. Bet you don't let your kid make an airfoil with their hand on the hiway either. Curmudgeon.

  10. Won't know any better by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your dog is deprived of a simple pleasure. Hooray for you.

    My dog arrives safely at his destination and won't become a 50lb projectile that could kill both of us in an accident. He also won't get any debris in his eyes that I'll have to have a vet remove later. My dog has plenty of joy in his life and I promise you will not know he missed anything by keeping his head inside the window.

  11. Re:OT: Dogs by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is safest practice for all concerned.

    Never take your dog out. That's safest of all! Just lock it in a cage and it won't ever come to harm, although it will probably die of desperation.

    Seriously while I don't agree with the labrador bouncing around in the back of the pickup truck, and while I do realize that the airbag can easily kill my 5lb poodle if it deploys, I don't spend my entire life worrying about every possible little thing that can go wrong. She's in my wife's lap with her leash on, and she loves to smell outside the window. I'd rather let her enjoy the ride with a small chance of serious injury if the worst should happen, than make sure she was miserable every trip getting car sick in a "safe" crate somewhere in the back of my car.

    Life has risks. It's up to everyone to figure out the trade off they are willing to accept for themselves.

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