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Here Comes the Keurig of Everything

Tekla Perry writes: Keurig made a huge business out of single-serving coffee machines. Now, as more complex machinery shrinks in size and cost, many companies are trying to duplicate that success for other types of food and drink. Startups are introducing the Keurig of cocktails, the Keurig of Jell-O shots, and the Keurig of dinner (it makes stir fries, stews, and risottos). The question is: does having a single- or limited-purpose device make really make sense for consumables that aren't coffee? Counter space is not infinite, and most people want more variety out of their lunches, dinners, and nightcaps than they do for their morning pick-me-up. (Also, let's retire this metaphor before we get a Keurig for cats.)

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  1. Cats? by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

    There's plenty of room for competition when it comes to keurig-type machines and cats that would allow several companies to produce their own versions. Because everyone knows there's more than one way to skin a cat.

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  2. Follow the Good Eats mantra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A kitchen device that can only be used for one purpose is a waste of space.

    1. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Funny

      I categorize kitchen appliances into two categories: Those that can make chicken wings and those that can't.

      Only a chicken can make chicken wings.

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    2. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A kitchen device that can only be used for one purpose is a waste of space.

      Except for espresso.

    3. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      An espresso maker doesn't just make espresso, though. It's an entire hot-drink station. At least, that's the way I use mine.

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    4. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by halivar · · Score: 2

      My Keurig can also make hot cider, hot chocolate, or hot water for tea.

    5. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

      I categorize kitchen appliances into two categories: Those that can make chicken wings and those that can't.

      Only a chicken can make chicken wings.

      Only an egg can make chicken wings.

      Only a chicken can make an egg. Your move.

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    6. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 3, Informative

      A good rice cooker can cook lots more than just rice and is worth its weight in jade.

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    7. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by Whorhay · · Score: 2

      I like Alton Brown but I'm curious how he justifies things like knives, ovens, stoves, refrigerators, freezers, can openers, tongs, oven mits, and any number of other things by that rule.

      For me a better guideline has been how often you use something. The less frequently you use it compared to the portion of your space it consumes the higher priority it should have when organizing a garage sale.

    8. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Unless you make that one thing an awful lot, to the exclusion of other things you could make, but will never make. Coffee makers tend to be the defining implementation of that philosophy.

      Hence I don't understand the purpose of this article at all, it's a self solving problem. If you can boil your life down in to a handful of meals, then one trick pony implementations make a lot of sense. If you cannot, then it's a waste of money and you'd be foolish to consider it. If you have boiled your life to a few meals, the reasoning used in the article will not make much sense to you, and just sounds like some random noise with no substance behind it except to condemn products you find useful. If you are someone who enjoys cooking, and/or has high standards for the meals you eat then you would never use such devices.

      This isn't new, you can, and many people do, go out and buy a pile of frozen meals for the week, and that's all the effort involved. Others, who want better tasting food, spend a lot of time making it themselves and do a better job of it. To each his own, time is the only true currency any of us manage, each spends it differently based on preference.

    9. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      A Keurig is smaller, cheaper, and doesn't let me nuke shitty food. Seriously, my diet improved significantly when my college microwave broke, and I didn't replace it.

      Your coffee will improve significantly after your Keurig breaks, if you don't replace it.

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    10. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To extend, some of the best scrambled eggs I have had was from an espresso machine. The steam made the eggs very fluffy and allowed the proprietor to server breakfast under a "coffee shop" license instead of a "restaurant" license.

    11. Re:Follow the Good Eats mantra by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      This is what you said:
      1. Put everything in a pot, put the lid on, it goes on the stove on high
      2. Once it starts to boil you turn the heat down (meaning you have to watch it)
      3. Let it sit for the amount of time (depends on if you are making white or brown rice) (again, you need to watch/time things)

      This is what ShanghaiBill said:
      "A pot on a stovetop needs to be watched and occasionally stirred. A rice cooker is fire-and-forget."?

      Either you've never used a rice cooker or you don't understand that you just proved ShanghaiBill right.

  3. PT Barnum (and the Onceler) knew the answer... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> does having a single- or limited-purpose device make really make sense for consumables that aren't coffee?

    If you can find enough suckers to buy them and yield big profits, then yes. (See the original Keurig, for example.)

  4. These machines aren't new. by grimmjeeper · · Score: 2

    Just channel surf some night when you have insomnia. The infomercials selling specialty cooking hardware are on every channel. Sure, some are the "replace everything in your kitchen with this one device" but others a "why waste time doing it by hand when you can just use our device to do it easily in half the time"

  5. I'm using one now by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

    I insert a single serving of food held in a specialized plastic container, press a button, and a minute later I've got a meal. Mine even works with a variety of food brands.

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  6. Yes, let's INCREASE waste by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 2

    Regular coffee pot + 1 coffee bean grinder + 1 lb bag of beans = 1 possibly recyclable / compostable bag plus a hundred + cups of coffee.

    Keurig setup + 1 kcup insert = 1 cup of crappy coffee plus an unnecessary environmental impact in the form of an non-reusable cup.

    Why in this day and age are we engineering waste INTO products when we should be engineering waste OUT of the product? It doesn't make sense.

    1. Re:Yes, let's INCREASE waste by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      Regular coffee pot + 1 coffee bean grinder + 1 lb bag of beans = 1 possibly recyclable / compostable bag plus a hundred + cups of coffee.

      Keurig setup + 1 kcup insert = 1 cup of crappy coffee plus an unnecessary environmental impact in the form of an non-reusable cup.

      Why in this day and age are we engineering waste INTO products when we should be engineering waste OUT of the product? It doesn't make sense.

      convenience.

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    2. Re:Yes, let's INCREASE waste by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      My wife won a Keurig awhile back. She liked being able to produce single cups of coffee (because I don't drink coffee). However, the best Keurig-purchase she ever made was a reusable K-cup. You fill it with whatever coffee you want (anything from grind your own beans to buy pre-ground in bulk), run the Keurig, and then clean out the reusable K-cup for the next cup. She saves money, still gets her single cup of coffee, and has much less waste than buying a ton of one-time use K-cups.

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  7. 100% Naval grade coffee by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Coffeebots SUCK!
    If you're not spending at least 40 minutes on your grind and brew ritual, you're just a philistine drinking gunky swill.

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    1. Re: 100% Naval grade coffee by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're not brewing your coffee specifically to strip paint and refinish your concrete, you're wasting your time and coffee.

      If your community isn't collecting your grounds to pave the local highways, you're not doing it right.

      If you bother to stir your coffee and get the spoon back, you're not trying hard enough.

      If adding sugar doesn't cause a violent reaction requiring evacuation, you're not doing it right.

      Coffee is intended to be a test of endurance and strength. C'mon, man...

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  8. Re:Keurig, to large to be a paperweight. by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

    Is the George Foreman Grill a fad? I mean everyone and their sister has or had one at some point. It did great and still makes money but how much is it used?

    We use ours at least once, sometimes twice a week..Especially now that we got one with removable, dishwasher-safe plates.

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  9. I'm having trouble understanding this by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

    Can someone provide a car analogy?

    1. Re:I'm having trouble understanding this by willworkforbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Some would argue that the Yugo was a single serve car experience. So there's that.

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  10. Re:Keurig, to large to be a paperweight. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

    Is the George Foreman Grill a fad? I mean everyone and their sister has or had one at some point. It did great and still makes money but how much is it used?

    We use ours at least once, sometimes twice a week..Especially now that we got one with removable, dishwasher-safe plates.

    I find they work pretty well for grilling burritos mine gets used several times a week as well.

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  11. To quote Alton Brown. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

    "There is only one uni-tasker in the kitchen."

    A fire extinguisher.

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  12. It's not even that convenient by Dasher42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is horrible. Keurig coffee is crap, and it creates a huge amount of disposable waste.

    Me, I have a small water boiler to get the water up to 208 degrees F, two grinders - a hand-turned grinder and an electric one for when I'm in a hurry and the noise isn't a problem, and a french press. I keep the coffee beans whole in a brown paper bag. Just grind, pour in a way that doesn't leave grounds floating above the water, and I can take the french press back to my desk and pour into a large mug in five minutes.

    It's still simpler than a PBJ and I don't create a huge pile of plastic garbage. Jeez, will someone get the marketing departments some psychotherapy already?

    1. Re:It's not even that convenient by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      You must raise your own peanuts and grapes, if you think that system is easier than a PB&J.

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  13. single-purpose tools better be awesome + durable by xeno · · Score: 2

    Yes, kitchen counter space is limited. And toolbox space, and desks, and dressers, etc etc. Keurig has a functional niche (places where mess is intolerable or there's no one to clean it up, like medical lobby or a low-use office), but their marketing has convinced a broader market that it's too cool not to have one. It won't last. Already there's blowback about the amount of waste produced by this particular device, and popularity is waning... just like most other uber-popular single-use doohickeys.

    In order to survive past initial novelty-driven sales, a single-purpose/non-flexible device had better be utterly awesome at what it does, and seriously durable in both function and regularity of need. That's why the regular pan stays while the egg-magic pan goes to Goodwill (not durable, don't want eggs every day), and virtually every Rolodex has been replaced by a free app on a general-purpose portable computing device (not flexible, need changed). The Keurig makes consistent mid-grade coffee (not awesome), and is moderately durable at best (and DRM is a form of intentional breakage), which means market survival will eventually come down to flexibility. Can JoeBob consumer make ramen with a Keurig? No? Then eventually he'll keep the kettle and throw out the Keurig.

    'Jus sayin... as I sip decent coffee out of a mug, made with a 15yo Cuisinart kettle, an $0.80 sbux Via packet, and less waste/cleanup than Keurig. The packet will change, the kettle will stay.

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  14. Doesn't make sense for coffee either by wired_parrot · · Score: 2

    does having a single- or limited-purpose device make really make sense for consumables?

    Fixed that for you. Single use devices never made sense for coffee either.

  15. Re:How long before I can get... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your Marklar is marklar! What a marklar, you.

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  16. Re:too much kitchen space by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2

    I have loads of kitchen space and none of these bullshit devices is welcome.

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  17. Re:Keurig, to large to be a paperweight. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite single use kitchen appliance of all time was the Presto Hot-Dogger. Something about the beauty of simplicity combined with being inches away from a mini-electrocution chamber that I can't find in today's boring appliances.

  18. Re:Why "Keurig-"? by Xolotl · · Score: 2

    Only in America. Go anywhere else and it will be "Keurig-what?". Thank goodness for the first sentence of the summary, the title would otherwise be incomprehensible in the rest of the world. Keurig wasn't even the first, Nestle (Nespresso) and Lavazza at least were there first.

  19. Re:Rice cookers by Whorhay · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure how a rice cookers interface can be that complicated. Mine has an on/off button and keep warm. You put in rice and water in the appropriate ratio, press the on button, and then go do whatever the hell you want for the 15 minutes to an hour it takes to finish. The timer it takes depends on how much rice you put in and what type, brown rice taking the longest in my experience.

    In my experience cooking rice on the stovetop sucks. It needs constant tending and is easily burned if you get distracted at the wrong time. My wife thought it was a silly thing to purchase at the time until we had used it exactly once. Perfect rice every time you use it, with the bonus that you can safely focus on other tasks while the rice cooks. And even once the rice is done cooking you can keep on doing other things until you can get to the rice because the cooker won't burn the rice.

  20. Re:Keurig, to large to be a paperweight. by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2
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  21. Rice Cooker by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few years ago I bought a top-of-the-line Japanese rice cooker. It cooks any type of rice flawlessly, and easily allows me to specify in advance what time I want the rice to be ready. Yes, it takes up counter space, but it's an investment I appreciate every time I use it.

  22. Re:I would only buy a Keurig for Cats by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 2

    Is your cat Pusheen?

  23. Why is Sodastream so expensive? by swb · · Score: 2

    What's the most expensive part of a Sodastream, the carbonation?

    The flavors (per their estimate of 12 liters per flavor pack) are around 50 cents per liter, which is about the "on sale" price of most 2L bottles of soda. Canned soda is about 80 cents a liter (more or less depending on brand and price).

    A friend bought a kit to fool around with and toyed with the idea of an adapter to use standard bottles of CO2.

    He ended up really hacking it by abandoning the Sodastream carbonator itself and instead put schraeder valves in the caps of the Sodastream bottles and bought a 20 gallon CO2 tank off Craigslist. I think he's even gotten into converting 2L bottles to use with this.

  24. Re:Rice cookers by Ichijo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Chinese don't really know very much about rice. That's why the purpose of other dishes in Chinese cuisine is to help the rice go down.

    The Japanese are the real rice connoisseurs. In Japanese cuisine, rice is a thing of worship, probably as an artifact of the Shinto religion where everything has a soul. A Japanese person will tell you that their domestic rice is the best, followed by California rice. But to the Chinese, rice is rice.

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  25. Labor saving better tasting by johnlcallaway · · Score: 2

    My wife just tossed her Keurig, and she is so much happier. She had forgotten what it was like to wake up to the smell of brewing coffee,and able to get her 2-3 cups instantly instead of waiting for each cup. She does miss some of the flavors, but now is more likely to add a little cocoa to the grounds the night before, or toss in some fresh vanilla with her real cream.

    So .. to keep on topic ... from my experience, most things that introduce a labor saving mechanism in the kitchen change the characteristics of the food. I make pizza dough in a stand mixer every week or two. Last week, I couldn't find the dough hook and made it by hand for the first time in months. It was so much better, the kneading that I did made a dough with better texture than the dough hook. Probably because as I knead, I can feel the dough and know when it's done. Now, to be fair, it could be that I just don't do it right with the dough hook. But .. since it produced a pizza dough that was serviceable, I didn't really care. At the time.

    The hand grinders I used as a kid did a better job than the using the food processor, we had much more control and it produced far more consistent texture. It is far easier to over beat egg whites using a hand mixer than doing it by hand.

    I appreciate the labor saving devices, and have a microwave, food processor, stand mixer, electric knife, and ice cream maker to name a few. I use them often. Love the ice cream maker, my wife won't even eat store bought ice cream anymore. But I kinda miss the hand cranked one, I just can't seem to get the same consistency that machine did.

    For something special, I almost always drop back to doing it without them. I find there is a better connection to food for me when hand mixing, hand chopping, and hand shaping that I don't get letting a machine do it and just watching.

    Several years ago, I spent time in India. While there, I got over the Western taboo of eating with my hands. I now find myself being watched at restaurants as I tend to still eat some of my meal with my hand, it somehow seems to make the experience more satisfying.

    In our current mobile-phone addled society, I suppose the quality of the food isn't as important as it used to be. I admit that my wife and I tend to eat dinner with the TV on because the kitchen table usually has some project on it. We didn't use to when we first got married, I always made it a habit of turning that damn thing off because she is such a great cook.

    Now, I'm not a food snob. Even though I appreciate good food, my wife and I also can enjoy fish sticks and Kraft macaroni and cheese for dinner. I've been known to hanker for B&M baked beans and hot dogs and chastise my wife to not add anything to them; she is often tempted to 'tart them up' and make them her own.

    Appreciating the difference between Gortons fish sticks and a hand grilled mahi mahi is not the same as turning ones nose up at Gortons. All food has flavor, and I have the opinion that if I feel food A is better than food B, it only pertains to me and no one else.

    But I'm afraid that the more we move towards Keurig, the less people will know how food can really taste when done by hand. And they won't have the skills to do it when the zombie apocalypse finally hits.

    Brain ceviche anyone???

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  26. Beer? by amRadioHed · · Score: 2

    What exactly is a Keurig of beer? Most beer I've seen already comes in convenient, single-serving packaging. Where does the need for a machine come in to play here?

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  27. Wasteful, and not-so-great coffee to start with by kheldan · · Score: 2

    In a world where many seemed to be moving towards things being less disposable, I was shocked at this 'Keurig' thing to start with. More waste? More 'single use', throw-away, non-biodegradable food-related things? What the actual fuck? Seriously, there needs to be LESS of this sort of thing, not MORE of it, and I'd be happy to see this whole 'K-cup' thing go away for good. Get a decent French press and make your coffee that way, it's 100% reusable and makes excellent coffee to your specification, and they're inexpensive. Want only one cup? They make little French presses that are appropriate for a single serving. Everything else this article is about? Screw that, make your own cocktails and whatever else the way they've always been made, there's NO reason to change it. Stop being lazy, people! We don't need more shit in landfills!

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