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Rockwell Collins To Develop Cockpit Display To Show Sonic Boom Over Land

An anonymous reader writes: Under contract from NASA, Rockwell Collins is developing equipment to let pilots of supersonic craft know where a sonic boom will be produced. The hope is to make supersonic flight over land practical. Flying higher widens impacts but lessens intensity. “In order for supersonic travel over land to happen, pilots will need an intuitive display interface that tells them where the aircraft’s sonic boom is occurring,” said John Borghese, vice president, Advanced Technology Center for Rockwell Collins. “Our team of experts will investigate how best to show this to pilots in the cockpit and develop guidance to most effectively modify the aircraft’s flight path to avoid populated areas or prevent sonic booms.”

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  1. Oh great.... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    ... now the pilots can aim the sonic boom to hit the area where their mother-in-law lives....

    1. Re:Oh great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know that the sonic boom is a constant thing, trailing behind a plane flying super-sonic, right? This will just help pilots by telling them when it's alright to go super sonic.

  2. If you live in a rural area.... by duckintheface · · Score: 4, Insightful

    becasue you love peace and quiet, well screw you. Is it ok to hit folks in low population areas with a shocking, loud noise. Helpful hint: NO, it is not.

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  3. Paraphrasing the Simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    becasue you love peace and quiet, well screw you. Is it ok to hit folks in low population areas with a shocking, loud noise. Helpful hint: NO, it is not.

    Sonic booms and noise pollution - well all pollution - should be where it rightfully belongs; in poor people's backyards.

  4. Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Informative
    To make supersonic flight possible over sea or over land, the cost must come down. Without reducing the cost it makes no sense to worry about sonic boom, or figuring out ways to show the pilot where it hits the ground and its intensity.

    Also the sonic boom issue was more FUD by Boeing, Douglas and Lockheed than the real issue. Back in the 80s, before the oil crisis, these companies wanted to stop British Aerospace and Aerospatiale from establishing a bridgehead at the luxury travel sector using Corcorde and its derivatives. But thankfully the Arab oil shock stopped Concorde.

    Think about it, the total energy of all the shock and sonic boom is equal to amount of jet fuel burnt. During cruise at Mach 2.05 each Olympus 593 was producing around 10,000 lb of thrust, equivalent to 36,000 horsepower per engine.[18] Two engines, 72000 HP. Or 54 kilowatt, or 54,0000 joules/sec. If all of it ends up as sonic boom, (neglecting skin friction) you are going to spread 54,0000 joules every second over several square miles. Compare this to peak solar radiation 1000 joules per square meter. OK that is purely thermal but this is mechanical. So let us take 10 mph wind. 16kmph. 4.44 m/s. Over 1 sq m cross section, mass flow rate is 4.44 * density of air/second. Air is 1 Kg/m^3. So it is 4.44 kg. 4.44 m/s velocity. Works out to kinetic power (power, not energy because we are using mass flow rate, not mass) of 0.5*mdot*v^2 = 22 joules/sec. This is per square meter. or 22 watts per square meter. 22 million watts per square kilometer. Let us round it up to a nice 100 million watts for several square kilometers. Compare that to 54 kilowatt, total maximum possible power output of those two turbojet engines. 100,000 kW for 10 mph wind vs 54 kW for Concorde. Our eardrums and instruments are sensitive enough to pick up the sonic boom over 10mph wind, but thats about it. Barely detectable. Sonic booms deafening people, cracking buildings and killing birds are all FUD.

    But cost... That is no mean thing to solve. In supersonic flight the energy needed to overcome the drag created by the shock wave is so high, there is no easy way to reduce the energy consumption. Only way to bring down the cost is to bring down the cost of fuel. The only way to make fuel cheaper is for the world to switch to non-fossil fules in such a large scale the oil industry collapses and oil falls to something like 5 dollar a barrel ( 2015 dollar not 1978 dollar).

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    1. Re:Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by Greyfox · · Score: 2

      Back in the 80's at Robins Air Force Base, the fighter jets would drop a sonic boom on the area every week or so. They weren't any worse than a distant thunderstorm and significantly less bad than a nearby thunderstorm. I'm frequently surprised at all the hysteria over them, especially considering how often they occur over most of the continental USA (Never.) In the top 1000 things to worry about or be annoyed by, that shouldn't even be on the list.

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    2. Re:Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by PPH · · Score: 4, Informative

      Think about it, the total energy of all the shock and sonic boom is equal to amount of jet fuel burnt.

      Um, there's a lot of air being heated as well. In fact, that's the point.

      Or 54 kilowatt, or 54,0000 joules/sec.

      More like 54 * 10^6 joules/sec

      Our eardrums and instruments are sensitive enough to pick up the sonic boom over 10mph wind, but thats about it.

      Go back and crank in that 10^3 factor. It's not that quiet. But then again, since our ears and perception are logarithmic, it's not that bad compared to other sounds.

      It's also a function of altitude. If you can keep supersonic aircraft at or above 60,000 feet (and there are reasons other than noise for doing so), the shock wave energy is spread out over a greater area and attenuated.

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    3. Re:Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by thrig · · Score: 2

      "The supersonics are comingas surely as tomorrow. You will be flying one version or another by 1980 and be trying to remember what the great debate was all about." -- Najeeb Halaby, administrator, FAA.

      Uh yeah. About that.

    4. Re:Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Some of the hysteria is probably because a very low-altitude plane flying supersonic can probably break windows, so people are worried about that. Of course, we're talking about higher-altitude planes here, so that isn't really justified.

      The other worry is probably the frequency of the booms. One boom a month isn't a big deal, but what if they decide to make a frequent flight path over your house in the suburbs or in the country? Now you've got sonic booms every day, throughout the day. No one wants that.

      They don't occur often over the continental USA because they're illegal (except for military planes), and these days because there's no supersonic passenger planes left. The Concorde was the only one, and it was limited to trans-Atlantic routes over water because of the restriction on sonic booms. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be worried about something that isn't a problem now because of legality and current technological state; these things can and do change. Texting-and-driving 20 years ago wasn't a problem either, but now it is; it would have been helpful if someone had worried about it a little more. Drunken driving wasn't a problem 120 years ago, but again maybe someone should have worried about it and done something before it turned into a big societal problem.

      Personally, I don't even see why supersonic travel should exist for passengers. It uses insane amounts of fuel, and even if that problem is fixed, it's unlikely it'll ever be as fuel-efficient as subsonic flight. No one really needs to get around that fast. If you don't like 14-hour flights over the Pacific, then don't do them; stay at home instead, or choose a closer vacation destination. Maybe eventually we'll avoid this problem altogether with some kind of sub-orbital vehicle which is both fast and fuel-efficient, but I'm not holding my breath.

    5. Re:Cost bigger issue than sonic boom by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

      I enjoyed my very first hangover on an early morning flight on a 727 "Whisper Jet". Whisper my ass...

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  5. Because we are all sonic snowflakes by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 2

    âoeOur team of experts will investigate how best to show this to pilots in the cockpit and develop guidance to most effectively modify the aircraftâ(TM)s flight path to avoid populated areas or prevent sonic booms.

    Yes. On Sunday it will do this. But Monday thru Saturday this technology will be used to test methods for waging Cymatic Warfare... in which fighter planes slave their autopilots to a central computer that flies them in passes towards a target zone from several vectors, such that the sonic boom interfaces-to-ground converge at the same instant. We have yet to see what might happen as standard building materials are subject to this type of harmonically amplified sonic energy. By Saturday afternoon we'll know.

    Because there is no such thing as a single-use technology.

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  6. Dubious calculations by jmichaelg · · Score: 2

    Your prodigious display of math is all for naught since you've essentially proved 1=2.

    I grew up in the early 60's when sonic booms were part of the background along with Duck and Cover. Nuclear war was just around the corner, or so we thought, and jets routinely generated sonic booms. Sometimes they'd sound like distant thunder and other times they'd rattle the house. Those were far louder, and more objectionable, than your putative 10 mph breeze.

    Thankfully, they tapered off towards the end of the 60's as the Air Force realized people *really* didn't like being rattled and those same people objected to Congress. Since the later controlled the budget, the Air Force cut back on high speed overflight over the cities.

    Booms weren't just domestic issues. NOVA interviewed a British Consul who was sitting in a tent in the Middle East discussing trade issues with his Middle Eastern counterparts. The Concorde flies overhead and the resultant boom startled all the conferees. The Consul said one of the men pointed at the sky and said "Concorde." at which point the Consul realized another trade issue had just been raised.

    Some of those booms were anything but quiet and they sure weren't FUD as you assert.