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Gates, Zuckerberg Promising Same Jobs To US Kids and Foreign H-1B Workers?

Posted by samzenpus on from the you-get-a-job-and-you-get-a-job-and-you-get-a-job dept.

theodp writes: Over at the Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg-bankrolled Code.org, they're using the number of open computing jobs in each state to convince parents of the need to expand K-12 CS offerings so their kids can fill those jobs. Sounds good, right? But at the same time, the Gates and Zuckerberg-bankrolled FWD.org PAC has taken to Twitter, using the number of open "STEM" jobs in each state to convince politicians of the need to expand the number of H-1B visas so foreign workers can fill those jobs. While the goal of Microsoft's 'two-pronged' National Talent Strategy is to kill two birds [K-12 CS education and H-1B visas] with one crisis, is it fair for organizations backed by many of the same wealthy individuals to essentially promise the same jobs to U.S. kids and foreign H-1B workers?

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  1. heh by bigCstyle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, more stem workers = lower pay (supply and demand) I am sure this is all completely legit

    1. Re:heh by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > That is, increasing supply lowers prices but it also increases volume, also for labor.

      Except when it doesn't. "Supply increases volume" only when then suppliers _believe_ that there is a profit available, and excess supply often saturates the market. Otherwise, all the empty storefronts I see on one block on my way to work would be filled with active hair salons, unlike the three competing salons on that block that are all going out of business.

  2. Re:Its the same issue either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The issue is lack of skilled workers"...

    You forgot to follow that with ..."that are willing to work for the peanuts I want to pay them."

  3. Re:Theo, about your rhetoric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gates and Zuckerberg do not care where their workers come from but how much they cost as they run businesses and not charities. In fact it is in their best interest to 1. train domestic talent 2. import foreign workers 3. domestic salaries are now depressed 4. profit.

    Neither Gates nor Zuckerberg got rich and where they are by working for someone. Certainly not working for someone in slaverITy.

  4. Re:Gates and Zuckerbergs Vision for America by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By that time he's had his stay, pumped the stock value and received his golden parachute. Why should he give a fuck about anything you mentioned?

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  5. Re:I always wondered about that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't worry. The truth is that you can't train someone to have an aptitude for something. There's a strong undercurrent of positivism in modern educational dogma: "You can be anything you want!" The sad truth is: no you can't. Everyone has certain aptitudes and certain potential. The current initiatives like code.org will turn out people who can put a few things together, follow recipes they find online, etc. But at the end of the day, it won't increase the number of people who have an aptitude to excel in the field. Also, there's the interest factor. Some people consider software development tedious and boring. These initiatives won't change that.