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First Smart TVs Powered By Firefox OS On Sale In Europe, Worldwide Soon

An anonymous reader writes: The first smart TVs powered by Firefox OS have gone on sale in Europe. Panasonic's line of Viera smart TVs includes six that are powered by Firefox OS — CR850, CR730, CX800, CX750, CX700 and CX680 — including their first curved LED LCD TV. The full global launch of the TVs is expected “in the coming months.” From the Mozilla blog: "We’re happy to partner with Panasonic to bring the first Smart TVs powered by Firefox OS to the world,” said Andreas Gal, Mozilla CTO. “With Firefox and Firefox OS powered devices, users can enjoy a custom and connected Web experience and take their favorite content (apps, videos, photos, websites) across devices without being locked into one proprietary ecosystem or brand.”

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  1. Re:Double-speak by itzly · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How is adding a plugin to handle an extra protocol the same as being locked into one proprietary ecosystem or brand ?

  2. Re:Double-speak by pushing-robot · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Also, would he rather Firefox baked EME into their own code instead of using an Adobe plugin?

    ...and was he just as mad at Apple a few years back for *not* including a proprietary Adobe plugin with their mobile browser?

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  3. Not Interested by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is almost as bad as "smart" platforms in cars. Way too much software functionality will be put into devices that will last far longer than the manufacturer's interest in upgrading or supporting it (especially since they'll probably have no interest in the first place). Any TV that lists "smart" as a feature should be avoided like those that list "3D."

    1. Re: Not Interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the long run you will not be able to avoid it. You can only buy what's on sale, and your existing devices will not last forever - or will be banned outright. Do you remember when digital extremists vowed to stop Trusted Computing at all costs? Well, now Trusted Computing hardware is present in ALL computers, Linux has to support it, and there's nothing you can do about it. Same with DRM. Big Money *ALWAYS* wins.

  4. who wants a smart tv anyhow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I want my women smart and my TV dumb. Seems like it wouldn't be very entertaining the other way around...

  5. Re:Double-speak by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's also easy enough for Mozilla to claim you won't be locked into any ecosystem because they don't have one. For Android at least the ecosystem is what makes it so valuable (for Apple I'm guessing it's about 50% cool electronic jewellery and 50% ecosystem).

    I didn't buy my Android phone to make a social statement, I bought it because of the Android ecosystem. The ecosystem is a feature, not a flaw.

  6. Re:Updates by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux is in other mainstream devices, like Tivo and Android. It's not a geek thing. It's a sensible choice to make when designing high end products. Saves development costs, saves royalty costs, higher quality than most commercial embedded operating systems especially with networking and security. Why wouldn't a manufacturer want to use it?

  7. Re:Updates by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The whole idea of a "smart TV" is retarded because it ignores a fundamental truth, which is 1.- "Smart"devices that are successful are in markets with high turnover so the consumer is able to run the latest apps, for example smart phones and tablets, while 2.- TVs are devices that are typically kept by the consumer for 5-10 years which means the "Smart" part will quickly become as outdated and useless as a Palm Pilot.

    Since FirefoxOS hasn't been out long enough lets use Android as an example, lets say you bought your smart TV 6 years ago, right around the time I bought my mother her new set (which is still working great and will probably last at least a couple more years if not more) that would put you on on Android 1.5, AKA Cupcake...now how many apps today can run on Cupcake? Very damned few. What about the hardware, could it have been updated? Since I had one of the early 1.6 (AKA Donut) I can tell you that while you MIGHT have been able to go to 2.0 it would have been painful to use, as the average device then was similar to these specs, a 530Mhz ARM11 with just 192Mb of RAM and 512Mb of flash...now remember that most smart TVs have lower specs than your average phone so how long do you think it would take before it was just painful to use?

    At the end of the day I think that other than malware targets these things are gonna quickly become irrelevant, the OS will go out of date looong before the TV dies, making for a security nightmare as vulnerabilities in both the OS and the apps won't be able to be patched as the hardware will just be too weak to run anything newer, and for the consumer the apps will lose support and using the ones that come with it will be about as pleasant as trying to surf modern sites on the phone I listed above. So other than a checkbox on the side of the box? IMHO this is just fucking stupid any way you cut it.

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