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Take Two Sues BBC Over Drama About GTA Development

An anonymous reader writes: Take Two Interactive, the parent company of Rockstar Games, is suing the BBC for trademark infringement over its planned "making of GTA" drama, Game Changers. The 90-minute movie was created without the involvement of the studio, which rarely comments on the GTA series' development outside of organised press events. (It is expected that it will draw upon the public conflict between Sam Houser and notorious anti-gaming crank Jack Thompson, via the expose "Jacked" by David Kushner.) After direct negotiations with the BBC failed, Take Two brought suit to "ensure that [their] trademarks are not misused." The details of the suit, Rockstar's objections, and the penalties sought, are not yet known.

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  1. Misused by Andy+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Take Two brought suit to "ensure that [their] trademarks are not misused."

    = Take Two intend to misuse trademark laws to control discussion and criticism of their product.

  2. In a nutshell by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In a nutshell, what they're saying is:

    "If we can't control your editorial content in reporting about or dramatizing our behavior, we're going to sue you in an attempt to make it not worth your while to report on or dramatize our behavior"

    Fuck them. I hope the BBC has the backbone to stick up to this sort of corporate bullying. If the show isn't flattering to Take Two, they can suck it up like anyone else.

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    1. Re:In a nutshell by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, so are the libel laws... interesting that TakeTwo specifically went after trademark and not libel (especially in the UK!), isn't it?

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  3. And then they discovered Streisand, and recursion by willworkforbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just announced, BBC are planning another new project: it's a drama centered around the time when Take Two Interactive sued the BBC for creating a "making of GTA" documentary called 'Game Changers' ...

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  4. Re:Can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're allowing the filming of a movie about Rockstar with Daniel Radcliffe playing Sam Houser and they want to stop a documentary that's probably going to be a bit more honest?

    No. It's the Daniel Radcliffe drama they are suing over.

  5. The lawyer? by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From TFA: "The 90 minute feature will focus on the real life conflict between Rockstar President Sam Houser and the US lawyer ... Jack Thompson." Surely they mean the disbarred lawyer. He can't practice no mo'. While I agree he still has his JD even if he isn't allowed to use it at all, lawyer usually refers to someone who can actually practice law. It's not a title like say "doctor" is. While plenty of people go around calling themselves Dr. so and so, I don't remember anyone introducing himself as Laywer so and so. It's usually So and so, esquire...

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  6. Re:Can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yep, so far all they have done is to quite successfully promote the documentary. I had not heard about it till now.

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  7. Re:Can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. by kylemonger · · Score: 2

    Maybe that's Rockstar's plan:

    1. Promote the documentary with the lawsuit.
    2. See the documentary make lots of money.
    3. Win the lawsuit and take all the money.
    4. Pay the lawyers.
    5. Profit?

    OK, maybe this is the lawyers' plan.

  8. Want some controversy by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do a bit on the hypocrisy of most of GTA's critics who went apoplectic over the possibility of violence against women versus the mandatory violence (in myriad forms) against men.

    (Sorta like how the reaction to what Ramsay Bolton did to Theon Greyjoy just made him a "bad, bad man" but coercing Sansa Stark into consummating their marriage made him Worse Than Hitler)

  9. Trademark dilution; nominative fair use by tepples · · Score: 2

    Since trademarks don't apply outside the market the trademark is for

    Unless the mark is "famous". Then a separate cause of action called "trademark dilution" comes into play.

    Since trademarks don't apply to use of the mark to denote the product.

    This is what U.S. trademark case law calls "nominative fair use". But the applicability of this defense varies from country to country. In Germany, for example, I've read that comparative advertising is prohibited. The BBC operates in Great Britain; does it recognize nominative fair use?

    Since trademarks are to stop people confusing products that "are similar" and nobody will mistake a BBC documentary for an interactive computer game.

    The confusion would be between a computer game and an authorized film adaptation of said game.

    1. Re:Trademark dilution; nominative fair use by mysidia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unless the mark is "famous". Then a separate cause of action called "trademark dilution" comes into play.

      Except the use of a mark to refer to a product for the purpose of criticism which is outside of normal trade falls under fair use and cannot be dilution.

  10. Re:It is absolutely not trademark infringement by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

    Depends... TakeTwo may have trademarks registered in the UK.

    Thing is, if the film were an actual documentary instead of a dramatic play, one could easily claim "because journalism!" and then tell TakeTwo's lawyers to go pound sand.

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  11. Trademark Fair Use by flopsquad · · Score: 2, Informative

    Between the First Amendment protection for comment/criticism, nominative fair use (how do you do a movie about Take Two without saying "Take Two"?), and zero likelihood of confusion, I don't see how this case has any legs.

    See also Louis Vuitton v. Warner Bros (LV's suit over bag scene in Hangover 2 dismissed). This is a good resource generally, though it deals mainly with advertising.

    Slap a disclaimer at the beginning of the movie and call it a day. If they want to be extra safe, give it the subtitle "The Unauthorized Take Two Story" or something like that.

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    1. Re:Trademark Fair Use by flopsquad · · Score: 2

      I thought about that. With a quick scan of TFA, I didn't see whether they were filing in the US or UK. Since the BBC has a solid presence in the US, it's conceivable TT could file here, especially if there were plans to broadcast the movie here.

      If the suit is in the UK, I can't comment on the jurisprudence. IIRC, they have analogous (weaker) fair use provisions for copyright, not sure about trademark. Any input from a UK IP attorney would be welcome.

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    2. Re:Trademark Fair Use by Holi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not sure what the First Amendment has to do with laws in England.

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  12. Turnabout is fair play by inhuman_4 · · Score: 2

    Have people suddenly forgot how much the media, including the BBC, has maligned the whole GTA series?

    "GTA will make kids violent", "GTA is a crime simulator", "GTA is responsible for school shootings", and most recently "GTA promotes violence against women". The BBC has played host to a wide array of nonsense claims and dubious "experts". And now the BBC is making a drama (not a documentary) giving disbarred and disgraced lawyer Jack Thompson just a little bit more airtime to further insult the company and their customers. Is it really such a surprise that they company doesn't want it's flagship product to be the target of yet another hit piece?

    Take Two's claim against the BBC is obviously bullshit, but it's a little rich for BBC to come crying now that they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

  13. So what by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What if it's a smear job on Take Two? At taxpayer expense?

    1. This isn't at taxpayer expense. It is at television owners' expense. Only people with televisions have to pay the television license that funds the BBC, not all taxpayers. To conflate the two is disingenuous.

    2. So what if it is inaccurate or a smear job. That is part of having a free press: the right to get it wrong (and if you do, be eviscerated and/or humiliated by everyone else). The BBC has a very good record and deservedly good reputation, because despite the occasional imperfection, by and large their reporting and documentaries are first rate.

    This lawsuit is an attempt to undermine the free press and apply inappropriate pressure to the editorial process, and frankly, Rockstar and Take Two deserve a severe smackdown for trying to do so, irrespective of the program's content.

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    1. Re:So what by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      You don't need a licence just to own a TV. You only need one if you watch live TV. Simply watch recordings on iPlayer and other streaming services and you don't need a TV licence.

      As a bonus if you don't have one the TV licencing authority will send you a free supply of kindling every month, in handy paper format. There might be some vague threats printed on it, but you can ignore those.

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  14. Re:I can see why they are suing. by Holi · · Score: 2

    I don't know a lot of Biography's have been written without talking to the subject, Maybe the BBC wants the truth and not the spin that Rock Star will give them. Remember Rock Star was behind a lot of the bad press they got, it was mostly marketing, and oh boy did it work.

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