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The Body Cam Hacker Who Schooled the Police

New submitter Cuillere writes: In the fall of 2014, a hacker demanded the Seattle Police Department release all of their body and dash cam video footage, prompting chaos within the institution. Although it was a legal request per Washington state's disclosure laws, Seattle's PD wasn't prepared to handle the repercussions of divulging such sensitive material — and so much of it. The request involved 360 TB of data spread across 1.6 million recordings over 6 years. All recordings had to be manually reviewed and redacted to cut out "children, medical or mental health incidents, confidential informants, or victims or bystanders who did not want to be recorded," so fulfilling the request was simply not within the department's capabilities. Thus, they took a different strategy: they hired the hacker and put him to work on developing an automated redaction system. "Their vision is of an officer simply docking her body cam at the end of a shift. The footage would then be automatically uploaded to storage, either locally or in the cloud, over-redacted for privacy and posted online for everyone to see within a day."

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  1. Love it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Be part of the solution - not part of the problem.

    1. Re:Love it by sycodon · · Score: 2

      If not honoring or stalling indefinitely FOIA requests is one extreme, requesting every last bit of recoding is the other.

      The law should be amended to require specific and limited dates, specific officers, and that it be pertinent to an official incident.

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    2. Re:Love it by preaction · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. They are working to serve the public. They should be prepared to get a bulk request for all data they have everywhere. Putting limitations on it will first clog up the courts, since a judge will have to decide whether it meets the law's requirements, which then involves lawyers. Then it will be used to cover up real crimes under the auspices of "not an official incident".

    3. Re:Love it by hawguy · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, he is indeed part of the problem.

      If a software can automatically redact the footage based on non-trivial criteria, then it can also run all sorts of metadata collection, turning every single policeman into a walking surveillance device. If you see a policeman on the street, then your location will be recorded, tied to your identity and stored forever.

      Of course, it's possible that this happens already...

      Did you read the article? The software blurs the image (or does edge detection, not sure which they are using) to make it possible to see activities without identifying people. So he basically made it impossible to do any kind of identity detection on the processed footage. There's nothing keeping the police from doing so on the original footage, but this guy isn't responsible.

    4. Re:Love it by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they want the data, they have to deal with the consequences.

      The alternative is NOT collecting it and storing it indefinitely. Fine by me, too.

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    5. Re:Love it by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

      Be part of the solution - not part of the problem.

      No, be part of the precipitate.

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    6. Re:Love it by hawguy · · Score: 5, Informative

      And you believe that the blurred copy is the one that is archived and reviewed for security, and future use in court? the only copy? rather than the original footage that could actually be used to prove a particular person is the one who did something? Sorry, that sounds inconsistent.

      Why doesn't anyone read the articles any more?

      This guy has nothing to do with the original footage -- the originals are still used for court and other police use (internal affairs investigations, etc). This guy's job is to automatically redact videos so they can be released to the public without paying police to sit down and manually review every video.

    7. Re:Love it by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      Sure, that could happen. He has nothing to do with any of that though. Don't spread FUD or contribute to the problem of outrage exhaustion. Collectively, there's only so much we can get outraged about, so let's save it for actual grievances, rather than hypothetical ones that don't exist.

    8. Re:Love it by Higaran · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry you want privacy, well that is way out the window, your phone, the 5 bazillion cameras already on the street and in every store, that little device that you stick to you car that pays your tolls, and any other device that I'm forgetting, are already recording your every move.

    9. Re:Love it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you mean "any more?"? I'm just surprised he wasn't modded +5

    10. Re:Love it by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're missing the point. Manually redacted footage will still be available via FOIA request, and unredacted footage will still be available in court. These over-redacted clips are designed specifically so that they can be publicly posting to the 'net at the end of each day, without anyone ever having to make a FOIA request at all. And they're not blurred to the point of uselessness; they're blurred to the point where you can't see details, but you can see when something is happening that warrants further attention.

      The idea is that by posting them immediately, it will increase transparency by giving the public a means to sift through recent footage and find incidents that may be of interest, without compromising the privacy of the individuals involved. By enabling the public to more or less go on fishing expeditions on their own time without costing the police any extra time or effort, it benefits the public since they are more capable of finding incidents, and it benefits the police since the FOIA requests they'll be dealing with (they claim that a minute of footage takes an hour to redact on average) will hopefully be more narrow in scope, since the requestors would have been able to sift out the majority of the irrelevant footage in advance. The end result is more capability to discover unreported incidents, more awareness of what's actually going on, less time spent manually redacting irrelevant footage, and a greater capacity for handling FOIA requests.

      It's a win-win, and it's by no means useless. It actually strikes a great balance between protecting the privacy of those being filmed and making the body cam footage readily available so that the public can better oversee the police.

    11. Re:Love it by sycodon · · Score: 2

      You would probably get a faster response when you provide dates, badges, etc.

      Just a sweeping request of everything is a stupid stunt and of no benefit at all. Unless you really believe he is going to view all six years worth of data from hundreds of officers.

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    12. Re:Love it by sycodon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't call being specific about what you want a "limitation".

      Requesting it all is a stupid stunt.

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    13. Re:Love it by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or more often, a fishing expedition.

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    14. Re:Love it by hawguy · · Score: 2

      So...a fishing expedition.

      Yes, or citizen oversight of those that we're paying to protect us.

    15. Re:Love it by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      There's quite a difference between face detection ("Hey, it's a human") and face recognition ("Hey, it's Peter G. of Quahog, Rhose Island").
      Blurring faces only requires face detection.

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    16. Re:Love it by St.Creed · · Score: 2

      In The Netherlands, there was an automatic fine to be paid to anyone who filed a FOI-request and didn't get the answers or requested information within a pretty short period. The inevitable result was the rise of small companies dedicated to filing as many obnoxious requests as possible, They reworked the law recently to tone that down a bit.

      Also, someone used this law to harass a council with multiple requests per day over a period of more than a year, leading to the department having 4 full-time staff to answer just his requests. Finally, a judge limited him to only a few requests per week. He refused to obey and he was jailed as a consequence.

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    17. Re: Love it by vilanye · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You think citizens requesting government documents should have the same burden to meet that the state has when investigating people?

      I am not sure if that is just short-sighted idiocy or a troll attempt.

  2. Clickbait-y headline is clickbait-y by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man requests video footage via FOIA, earns job categorizing and sanitizing video footage to allow release to public in compliance with both FOIA and privacy laws. System ends up better off and expects to work in a transparent manner.

    Move along...

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  3. too bad it doesn't work with banks by alen · · Score: 4, Funny

    give me all of your money!
    OK, here is a job counting it

    1. Re:too bad it doesn't work with banks by hawguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      give me all of your money!
      OK, here is a job counting it

      Well more like "You can have all the cash you want, as long as you find a way to make it unusable as currency, yet still detectable as cash".

  4. What sort of redaction can be automated? by barlevg · · Score: 2

    Are we just talking about blurring faces?

    1. Re: What sort of redaction can be automated? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      It probably just snips any footage where a black person is in frame.

      So he's going to use Hewlett-Packard's software, then?

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    2. Re:What sort of redaction can be automated? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      They remove audio, color, and make it really blurry.

      Here is one example.
      Here is another example, with a different style.

      They aren't perfect, sometimes you can still figure out people or places, so it seems like they aren't releasing the full archive yet, just some samples.

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  5. Please, no. by halivar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am 100% for body cameras on all police. But when that footage goes public, it becomes a possible intrusion into my civil liberties. What if I get arrested on a bogus child sex abuse charge? Facebook provides a good model of what will happen. The perp goes up on a police blotter for mug shots, it goes viral, and even after he is cleared, FB stalkers turn into real life stalkers, pulling up into the driveway in the dead of night and flashing their brights into the living room, or publicly commenting that if they see them on the street, they're as good as dead. Such a thing happened to a friend of mine, and this bullshit mob justice has to stop.

    The only way to protect the rights of the accused is to hide police-public interactions behind an wall of secrecy. Want body cam footage? Or a mug shot? Or an arrest history? Get a subpoena, and it better be relevant.

    1. Re:Please, no. by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As opposed to currently where your name, address, and age go onto the police blotter in the local newspaper?

    2. Re:Please, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Swiss have a good solution to this problem -- privacy laws, guaranteed in their constitution. It's illegal to report on things like arrests or legal proceedings until after such proceedings are concluded. Their privacy laws are most famous for money laundering, but they're important and the rest of the world should adopt them too. There are better way to collect tax than spying on everyone's bank balances anyway.

    3. Re:Please, no. by willworkforbeer · · Score: 2

      "Local newspaper"? What is that, some kind of newfangled startup concept?

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    4. Re:Please, no. by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

      Put down the cocaine.

      Yes, all of it.

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    5. Re:Please, no. by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now it won't just be arrests, though, but any interaction with police.

      We just see the way this goes. Some tiny little thing gets taken out of context and posted online and people go fucking rabid, for and against.

      There was a story a few weeks ago from Australia (just as easily anywhere in the US, though) about a guy who was "creep shamed" as a pedo when he was really just taking a selfie with Darth Vader as a joke to send to his kids. tl;dr mom sees guy take pic near her kids, flips, takes pic of him, posts online, 20k + views, death threats, cops, psychological trauma, etc etc.

      And then of course there was a backlash against her (I'm not sure if her identity was revealed) with all the anti-moral panickers having a moral panic about moral panics. As terrible a mistake as she made, she doesn't deserve death threats either. If you think she does, congratulations on being part of the problem.

      I just wonder how good the redaction can be that you can't match somebody up. It's not to hard to imagine the same kind of scenario playing out. Guy's at the park with his kids, kids are out of sight, cop asks the guy what he's doing here "Oh I'm here for the kids." "Hmmm...all right then..." Internet Super Hero catches sight of this, snaps a pic, finds the footage on the police website later "EVERYBODY WATCH OUT FOR THIS PEDO HE 'GOES TO THE PARK FOR THE KIDS!!!!'" Face is blurred and speech is altered, but it's clearly the same guy. Time/place/clothing.

      Then of course there's all the other interactions with police where they're not talking to a suspect. What about interviewing victims? If somebody calls the cops on an abusive spouse do they now have to worry that their dirty laundry is going to be on the internet for everybody to see? How hard will it be to match up victims based on...who knows...addresses, landscape features, google street view data.

      Same with the mentally ill. Bipolar family member having a manic episode and slipping into psychosis and you need help to get them to the hospital? Gotta think twice about making that call now. And yes, yes, I know there have been a few instances of cops hurting or killing a mentally ill person when their family called for help, but it's very rare compared to the number of times they're the only way to get a suicidal or psychotic person to the hospital for treatment. But now you're adding definite privacy concerns to rare brutality concerns.

      Even if they can't identify you, you know some asshole is going to turn this into a game. "Post the funniest/most fucked up police footage." When I was younger and stupider I played a game with people on a forum once where you went to the sexual predator watchdog website where you could put in an address and it would show you the registered sex offenders on a map and you'd find the creepiest looking mugshots/conviction list near you and try to outdo the other people playing the game. I feel pretty ashamed of that now. But, well, it's going to happen.

      I'm all for body cams, but man, I just think there's got to be a better way to oversee the program to protect people who have interactions with police than publishing the videos for everybody to see. Some kind of civilian oversight board that approves requests. 99/100, a time you're interacting with police is not a good day in your life. You're either a victim or a suspect, and you don't deserve to have one of the worst days of you life broadcast, particularly in these hyper-sensitive days of internet mob moral justice.

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    6. Re:Please, no. by KGIII · · Score: 2

      I have not been to Seattle since the mid-90s. I don't recall there being any Republicans but, then again, I did not dig too deep. It was a surrealistic place then and I was eating a lot of blotter at the time.

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  6. Re:What About The Innocent? by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Their names show up in the police blotter anyway. You are not anonymous until proven guilty.

  7. I'm extremely surprised... by ckatko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm extremely surprised to hear that a police department--when faced with legal requests from an unimportant regular joe--actually went out of their way to implement an elegant system to an issue instead of dragging their feet. None of us would have been surprised to see a police department throw a wrench into the system.

    I'm honestly considering writing them a letter thanking them for their exemplary compliance. Good cops need to know we support them.

    1. Re:I'm extremely surprised... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It might have more to do with the whole Dept being under the watchful eye of the DOJ and not the wonderful Seattle PD. You should google that dept before feeling the need to thank them for anything.

    2. Re:I'm extremely surprised... by garcia · · Score: 2

      In Minnesota, the public sector is mandated by statute to release information to the public and be setup in a way which facilitates this action:

      https://www.revisor.mn.gov/sta...

      13.03 ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT DATA.
      Subdivision 1.Public data. All government data collected, created, received, maintained or disseminated by a government entity shall be public unless classified by statute, or temporary classification pursuant to section 13.06, or federal law, as nonpublic or protected nonpublic, or with respect to data on individuals, as private or confidential. The responsible authority in every government entity shall keep records containing government data in such an arrangement and condition as to make them easily accessible for convenient use. Photographic, photostatic, microphotographic, or microfilmed records shall be considered as accessible for convenient use regardless of the size of such records.

      I have used this exact quoted statute many-a-time to force local government agencies in Minnesota to not only provide me information, which they were usually willing to do, but for free or very low cost.

      I made a request once to a public transit agency who told me it would be several hundred dollars to do. I told them if they had followed the statute to make the data readily accessible by the public, it wouldn't require the work they were trying to charge me to do. Their legal counsel informed them I was indeed correct and I got it for the cost of the media.

      Maybe there is a similar statute in this case which drove the decision?

  8. Re:So you see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Videos are redacted for casual public viewing, because there are laws about the privacy of minors, the mentally ill, etc.

    A courtroom is not the same thing: it is not casual, and judges and juries can view video in private to protect the identities of witnesses (like children or mafia informants) or innocent bystanders disclosed. The videos shown to a jury will not be redacted.

  9. Only in some situations ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The footage would then be automatically uploaded to storage, either locally or in the cloud, over-redacted for privacy and posted online for everyone to see within a day.

    For court purposes, there can't be any redaction.

    Because as soon as you start snipping out bits, you lose context and some of what actually happened.

    The full video must be available for scrutiny ... or you'll get the 5 seconds which supports the police version of events, or which has been edited to alter the sequence of events.

    Part of the reason people are starting to insist on body cameras is we don't trust the police. Because increasingly the police are not trustworthy, and don't know or care what the law says.

    Which means all of this raw video should be held in escrow where the police have no ability to alter or delete it.

    If the police hold it, and have the power to edit it ... suddenly it becomes a less trustworthy record.

    So when the police start claiming they need to redact it, they better have the ability to provide the un-redacted version for court proceedings.

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    1. Re:Only in some situations ... by Straif · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you read the article you'd see that there are 3 possible versions of police video. #1 always exists, #2 will exist in most cases (when fully implemented) and #3 is only created upon request.

      1) The raw video which is stored on DVD and available for any court proceedings. This version is not altered in any way.

      2) The over-redacted version which this post is about. This version is intentionally altered to try and remove any identifying features from the subjects, including suspects and also filters out videos involving specific crimes (rape or involving kids). This video is not used for any legal proceedings; it's primary purpose is to allow interested parties to review police interactions with the public.

      3) Videos legally requested under disclosure laws. These are manually redacted to remove the minimum required by law to protect peoples privacy. Depending on the subjects this would generally look like the videos you see on COPS where the subjects are clearly visible but some bystanders are blurred.

      The idea is that by providing the second type of videos they can reduce FOIA or similar legal requests because in most cases seeing exactly who was involved is much less important as seeing what was done to and by each person involved in the incident. Before the existence of the over-redacted versions every request to view police body cams resulted in the the need to create a manually redacted version and this took up to 1 hour/minute to process.

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    2. Re:Only in some situations ... by SecurityGuy · · Score: 2

      Part of the reason people are starting to insist on body cameras is we don't trust the police. Because increasingly the police are not trustworthy, and don't know or care what the law says.

      Well, mostly. I've been arguing with people for years on this. For so long, many people had this default notion of the police as the good guys. This is very much the default in traffic court. If the police say you did it and you say you didn't, you're guilty. People need to understand that putting on a badge doesn't change your morality. Some people are trustworthy, and some people are not. Police are people, and we don't have a perfect process to separate the trustworthy from those who aren't, so inevitably sometimes we hire police who aren't. Just like every other profession.

  10. Re:What About The Innocent? by halivar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are not anonymous until proven guilty.

    No one should be subject to a trial of public opinion, period.

  11. I was at the original arrest, bigger SPD story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seattleite here. Please note that SPD is under federal oversight and this is good progress but there's a bigger story/problems with SPD (as I'd guess with many PDs).

    I was also present when the hacker in question got arrested in the initial incident, was the final Urban Golf event (bar crawl hitting foam golf balls with real golf clubs through the city, tended to get a bit out of hand) in Seattle. I and about 10 other people gave up our IDs, he did not and went to jail.

    Quote of the evening from the dickish officer in charge: "If I see one more person dressed in Argyle tonight, they're going to jail."

    -S

    1. Re:I was at the original arrest, bigger SPD story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Quote of the evening from the dickish officer in charge: "If I see one more person dressed in Argyle tonight, they're going to jail."

      So that's how the grunge phase ended in Seattle. You got yourselves a real fashion police!

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  13. Double edge sword by Ravaldy · · Score: 3

    This is another case of people wanting to make police so accountable they are willing to compromise their own privacy and spend millions of dollars country wide doing it.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it enough to be able to get specific recordings on demand? I mean, if a cop kills someone the video of the incident is required, not the other 5 TB recorded that day.

    This data should only need to be pulled out where abuse is suspected or complaints are made about an officer's behavior (because they know it can be proved via the body cam).

  14. Re:What About The Innocent? by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

    What about the innocent people being filmed by the police, and by innocent I mean those who have not yet been proven guilty? Or does Seattle also have some magical hacker system that can provide due process and justice within the same 24 hour period?

    The main purpose of the law is to ensure that everyone is guilty of something.

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  15. I remember this idiot from Liveleak... by CaTfiSh · · Score: 2

    ...where he posted a video where a woman who had been arrested over a DWI had her social security and home address read aloud at the station. He then laughed about it and defended his actions until we finally got the mods to awaken and remove the video. He's a real piece of work.

  16. Re:what the... by Straif · · Score: 4, Informative

    He was the winning entry in the SPD's 'hackathon' to produce a video redaction system to meet their needs (his request for video was also the main reason for having the hackathon in the first place buts that's not important).

    He pretty much meets the definition of hobbyist hacker from Wikipedia or the #3 definition of hacker from webster "an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer".

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  17. Re:what the... by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    'Hacker' doesn't always mean 'someone who breaks into a computer.'

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  18. Re:What About The Innocent? by edjs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No one should be subject to a trial of public opinion, period.

    No one should be subject to secret arrest and detention either. It's unfortunate that we rush to judgement, but part of the reason to publish arrests is to protect those arrested.

  19. Re:It compromises privacy by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Informative

    How on earth can opening the footage to the public NOT compromise privacy?

    Check the article. They provide examples of over-redacted footage. Had you looked at them, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.

    I asked a cop on a streetcorner for directions the other day, he gave them, I thanked him and went on my way, no problem. I consider that to be a private conversation (it reveals my whereabouts that day and tells where I was trying to go). I don't want video of it to be a public record open to "fishing expeditions" by random jerks

    All audio is removed from the over-redacted footage and techniques are used to ensure that people are not readily identifiable. Seriously, just go look at the examples.

    And I hate to break it to you, but any video recorded of you by an officer already is a matter of public record. Those "random jerks" just need to file a FOIA request to get the video. And in some states, such as Washington, they can even file those requests anonymously. Any interaction you have with a police officer is a matter of public record, whether you like it or not. This doesn't change that.

    Unless there's an actual dispute involving the person requesting the video, nobody (including the police department and the cop wearing the camera) should be allowed to see the video and it should be deleted after 1 year.

    Oh, definitely. Great plan. Hey, I think the following people may want to review any available footage the police have regarding their "disputes", but for some reason none of them are speaking...oh, that's right, it's because they were all murdered at the hands of police officers. And what do you know? In the two cases below where footage was available, the police officer is facing murder charges, while in the third one, they aren't. How strange.

    1) Walter Scott
    2) David Kassick
    3) Michael Brown

    Those were just off the top of my head. But while simply trying to dig up links for those three, I found out that Olympia, Washington police shot two unarmed brothers at a grocery store yesterday, that a rookie cop in New York fatally shot an innocent, unarmed man who just happened to step out of an apartment at the wrong time, that a cop in South Carolina shot an unarmed man at a traffic stop when the man turned to grab his driver's license, that Anaheim, California cops fatally shot two unarmed men in back-to-back days...the list goes on.

    Honestly, it's really depressing. I'm finding more articles about shootings I didn't know about than I am about the high-profile ones I was already aware of. And all of those but the last one are from just the last eight months.

    Suffice to say, I vehemently disagree with you.