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Apple Music and the Terrible Return of DRM

An anonymous reader writes: Apple's rumored music streaming service looks set to materialize soon, and a lot of people are talking about how good it might be. But Nilay Patel is looking at the other side — if the service fits with Apple's typical mode of operation, it'll only work with other Apple products. "That means I'll have yet a fourth music service in my life (Spotify, Google Play Music, Prime, and Apple Music) and a fourth set of content exclusives and pricing windows to think about instead of just listening to music." He points out Steve Jobs's 2007 essay on the state of digital music and notes that Jobs seemed to feel DRM was a waste of time — something forced on Apple by the labels. "But it's no longer the labels pushing DRM on the music services; it's the services themselves, because locking you into a single ecosystem guarantees you'll keep paying their monthly subscription fees and hopefully buy into the rest of their ecosystem. ... Apple Music might be available on Android, but it probably won't be as good, because Apple wants you to buy an iPhone.... There's just lock-in, endless lock-in. Is this what we wanted?"

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  1. ZOMG by zieroh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody is actually forcing you to participate in any new service, are they?

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    1. Re:ZOMG by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but its existence denies me the right to not want it.

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    2. Re:ZOMG by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Certainly not, but writing an actual article about anything of importance would require actual work, where as even mentioning Apple is sure to garner all manner of clicks as both fans and haters crawl out of the woodwork. Next there will be complaints about a lack of competition on the inflated costs of streaming services.

    3. Re:ZOMG by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That aside, your implication that any criticism of the service is invalid because people aren't being forced to buy it is the same argumentative fallacy

      To be fair, the entire complaint of the author was that now he would have a fourth music service. In this case, the actual solution is, in fact, to not buy it.

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  2. "Is this what we wanted?" by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    I never wanted monthly music rental to begin with, so ... no.

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    1. Re: "Is this what we wanted?" by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's basically the same as paying to see a show live or a movie in the theatres.

      Most of us, with some exceptions, only see a given show or movie once. That's not how most of us consume music.

      There's no real need for you to own copies of music.

      There's no real need to assign, restrict, or control property rights on a copy of song either. The entire idea that I would even need to consider whether I am permitted or not to have a copy or listen to it however I want is ENTIRELY artificial.

    2. Re: "Is this what we wanted?" by lucm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most of us, with some exceptions, only see a given show or movie once. That's not how most of us consume music.

      Music is now disposable. Do you really think people will still listen to their Taylor Swift or Ellie Goulding albums three years from now? No way, there will be more new stuff. Always more. Some will last a season, some a year, but then it will be replaced by something else.

      With a streaming service you can listen to music that becomes a great temporary soundtrack for your life. I remember a few years ago, it was all about Katy Perry and Pink and Lykke Li on Pandora. Then there was that hilarious Selfie song. Then the Ting Tings and whatnot. When I hear one of those songs it brings back general memories of a time in my life, but there's no way I'd go out and buy those albums now.

      Sure, sometimes I discover an artist on a streaming service, then I go buy their albums on iTunes, and I still have my vinyls and CDs. But for the most part, music is now like a landscape that goes by during a train ride. It's there for a while, then it's something else, and overall I find the experience more enjoyable than a 12-CD changer or a Winamp playlist.

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  3. Steve Jobs was a salesman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If all his inventory was purple and all the competitor's were white, he'd be out saying how purple demonstrates the individuality of the user while white is bland.

    If his were white and the competition's were purple, then of course white is what someone with a serious design background would come out with.

    Bill Gates was similar. Back in the '90s, during the browser wars, MS released an "Open letter to Netscape" with Microsoft's pledge to abide by "open standards" for HTML. Of course, they promptly forgot that once Netscape was acquired by AOL and had lost all its market share.

    It's B-school 101 shit.
       

  4. Re:Vinyl by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not ever going to go back to the difficulty of vinyl, it's just too damn much work to keep both the physical media and the player maintained such that they produce good quality output, but I can honestly say that having CDs has helped. I rip my CDs to a non-DRM digital format. I can play them on my phone, on my computers, on most DVD players from either disc or from flash, and even on some car stereos that support mp3 from CD or from flash. If I have a device failure I can copy back off of other devices, or worst case I can re-rip again from source media.

    No one's digital store method has ever satisfied my want for being able to always access the content that I have paid for. Sometimes things are removed from the catalog, so they could later no longer be downloaded again, or the content is streamed instead of stored locally, or other things.

    I want control over my stuff. If I own media then I have control.

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  5. Slashdot and the Terrible Extension of Clickbait by Binky+The+Oracle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know this is Slashdot and all, and Apple bashing is kind of a national sport, but TFA is nothing but conjecture. How about we wait until there's an actual fact to talk about before fueling the servers with anti-fanboi rage?

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  6. Oh, boo-hoo by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That means I'll have yet a fourth music service in my life (Spotify, Google Play Music, Prime, and Apple Music) and a fourth set of content exclusives and pricing windows to think about instead of just listening to music.

    Talk about first-world problems...

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  7. These are all streaming services, not DRM related by guises · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems like a false dillema - how much agonizing do you do over whether you'll subscribe to DirecTV or DIsh or both or neither? If you want one you pick one, and if it turns out you don't like it you switch.

    Really the music situation is much better than that, there are more choices and none of the awful contracts. You can switch easily if you wish and some of them offer free trials, or even entirely free versions. This is no worse than any other subscription service and better than many. Of course it's different from actually owning the music, but no one has claimed equivalency there. You can always just buy the songs if you want, from many sources.

  8. platform lockin is not DRM; let's not confuse them by Arakageeta · · Score: 4, Informative

    DRM is a means of limiting the distribution of a purchased (or licensed) digital file by the owner (or licensee). Exclusively locking a subscription service to a platform is not DRM. Rather, it is a means of boosting the sale of the platform by offering additional platform-only services. We can discuss the harm and inconvenience that platform lock-in may cause. However, we should not confuse the issue with DRM. That will just inflame old passions, preventing someone from approaching this new distinct issue from a fresh perspective.

    No doubt many people against DRM will also be against platform lock-in. Perhaps others may not. For instance, I am generally against DRM. I purchased a digital file; I would like to be free to make copies of it for my own use. However, with platform-based subscriptions, I just can't get all that upset about it. I don't own an Android device, so I won't subscribe to Google Play. Also, there are a wealth of quality subscription services out there that run on all of the popular platforms. So what's the big deal?

  9. Re:Slashdot and the Terrible Extension of Clickbai by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    We do that and the article won't be posted on Slashdot until six months after the thing starts up. This gives us some time to get the dupe ready on a timely basis.

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  10. Endless Lock-In - Is This What We Wanted? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That means I'll have yet a fourth music service in my life...

    Apparently that is what you want, or you wouldn't plunk down money for this service. Apple isn't holding a gun to your head forcing you to comply with their business model.

    If you want it, pay for it. If you don't want it, don't pay for it. Paying for something you don't want and then bitching about it is useless and stupid.

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  11. Re:These are all streaming services, not DRM relat by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The author isn't technical, and doesn't understand the words he uses. He thinks that if his device won't pair with his bluetooth speakers, it must be because of DRM. If Google Play Music is better on Android than on iPhone, it's because of DRM.

    He is slowly coming to an awareness that interoperability is hard. The author is a "bro" who describes himself as "married to a babe." That's cool but all he wants to do is listen to music and all this technology is inconvenient to understand. It won't let him listen to music the way he wants (the subtitle of his article is "give me convenience or give me death"). It's hard to feel sympathy for him.

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  12. Re:Here's the plan by JWW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or I could just buy the music I want DRM free and make my own damn playlists.

    Streaming services are just that, services. If you want more control of your music, Buy it!

  13. Re:Vinyl by vlad30 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sales up 240 per cent, Lies Damn Lies and Statistics Last year they could have sold 10 records this year 24 thats 240% of last year What are the raw numbers ?

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  14. Re:Hummmm?? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Steve Jobs made anti-DRM statements very early on. At the time, the music industry was insisting on DRM for everything. They eventually learned that it gave more power to the distributors than to them and allowed Amazon to sell DRM-free music (but didn't allow Apple the same deal for a while, to allow Amazon to become a viable competitor). For some reason, the movie studios are intent on making the same mistake and insisting that Amazon and Netfilx take complete control of their supply chain, when the best thing for their business is a healthy competitive ecosystem driving each others margins.

    If they had any sense, the music and movie studios would insist that distributors sell without DRM.

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