Chinese Doctor Performs Head Transplants On Mice

An anonymous reader writes: Xiaoping Ren, a Chinese surgeon, has performed roughly 1,000 head transplants on mice since 2013 and says that monkeys are next. Some of the mice have lived as long as a day after the operations according to Ren and he hopes to have similar success with primates. With $1.6 million of funding so far, he says, "We want to do this clinically, but we have to make an animal model with long-term survival first. Currently, I am not confident to say that I can do a human transplant."

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Work with cloned mice

[Karmashock]

The immune response would have to be serious.

if you have two genetically identical mice then swapping their heads should be more viable.

The interesting thing in so far as humans would be doing the same thing.

Forget the ethics for a moment. Lets say you got a clone of yourself... doing a head swap would be less of a big deal than grabbing some random other person and doing a head swap with them.

Re:Work with cloned mice

[Antique Geekmeister]

The idea of "new bodies for old" is an old one in fiction and in science. This was explored in some dramatic detail in Lois McMaster Bujold's stories of "Miles Vorkosigan". Old people would have a clone made, the clone raised in foster care until mature enough to support a full grown brain, and then the brain transplanted. Raising the clone required raising them to at least puberty, to support the brain and mature nervous system of the transplant candidate, and they were certainly sentient beings being sacrificed.

Re:Work with cloned mice

[Anonymous Coward]

The thing everyone always ignores is that no matter what, eventually your brain dies. Whether in you or after you've been uploaded to a computer or another brain or what have you. And when that happens *THAT* you is dead. *YOU* still experience the pain of death. YOU still cease to exist. There is something out there with your memories and thoughts, but they are not you any more than a photo album or journal is you.

Re:Work with cloned mice

[ranton]

The thing everyone always ignores is that no matter what, eventually your brain dies. Whether in you or after you've been uploaded to a computer or another brain or what have you. And when that happens *THAT* you is dead. *YOU* still experience the pain of death. YOU still cease to exist. There is something out there with your memories and thoughts, but they are not you any more than a photo album or journal is you.

This is very easily solved as a concept, although the implementation will obviously be insanely difficult. As another poster mentioned, your brain cells are constantly dying already. You still feel like you probably because it happens so gradually. So the answer to replacing your brain is the same; do it gradually. Conceptually you would be hooking your brain to a helmet filled with electronics that slowly replace your brain functions. At the end of the process your brain is completely electronic and you are still you. This is the theory anyway.

If you consider this scenario to be the same as you experiencing death, then you have already died perhaps hundreds of times in your lifetime so far.

A day?

[penguinoid]

Some of the mice have lived as long as a day after the operations according to Ren and he hopes to have similar success with primates.

Maybe he should try to have his patients survive more than one day, before moving up to primates.

Re:A day?

[azcoyote]

Maybe if he just keeps stapling the monkey head onto a new body once a day, the head will be able to live a long and horrifying life.

Hmmmm ... I got chucked in the loony bin for this!

[MarkTina]

You dismantle the neighbourhood cats and dogs to make yourself a Labrapussy and they chuck you in the nut house .. but if I was a "Doctor" I'd be praised for my work!

Unfair!!!