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Surface Pro 3 Handily Outperforms iPad Air 2 and Nexus 9
An anonymous reader points to an interesting comparison of current tablets' peformance, as measured with the Geekbench benchmarking tool, which boils down various aspects of performance to produce a single number. The clear winner from the models fielded wasn't from Apple of Samsung (Samsung's entrants came much lower down, in fact), but from Microsoft: the i5-equipped Surface Pro 3, with a Geekbench score of 5069.; second place goes to the Apple iPad Air 2, with 4046. The Nexus 9 rated third, with 3537. One model on the list that U.S. buyers may not be familiar with is the Tesco Hudl 2, a bargain tablet which Trusted Reviews seems quite taken by.
The Surface pro 3 is a laptop equivalent. The ipad and the nexus are strictly tablets. I would never expect them to compare from a performance perspective.
Laptop out performs tablet.
I have both the ipad and surface pro 3. They are not comparable tools.
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A myriad of guides exist to install Ubuntu on a Surface Pro 3 after somebody showed it could be done more than a year ago.
Now the first hit in Google is how to set up dual boot. Amazing.
Comparing retail prices hint what might be the better performer here.
€ 999,- Surface Pro 3
€ 450,- Apple iPad Air 2
€ 350,- Nexus 9
Arguably a far, FAR more important metric than performance for the majority of users, given that tablets are used mostly for media consumption, is battery life. I have a feeling that the Surface Pro 3 will trail the field badly here. (I don't know what the iPad series can manage these days, but a good Android tablet can manage close to 20 hours of screen-on time at a brightness of 170cd/m2.
The i5 Surface Pro 3 with 128 GB of storage costs $1000.
The iPad Air 2 with 128 GB of storage costs $500.
So the Surface Pro costs 100% more for a 25% bump in speed? And we're spinning this as a win for MS?
IOW, who cares?
In any case, the spin is opposite to reality. The remarkable thing here is that an iPad Air2 nearly matches the performance of an I5 notebook replacement...
i dont think it was ever a question. the surface pro line has always been the powerhouse.
Considering it has a full notebook x86 CPU (and not a ultra-low-power one), while the iPad has a ultra-low-power ARM CPU, the Surface Pro should be fucking ashamed it only is 25% faster.
Oh, and since this is a SP with an i5, it costs at least $999. So much for price equality...
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In these form factors, it's no longer a question of peak CPU performance. These processors all thermal-throttle to the point where none of them are going to be performing at peak while in these form factors. The same i5 in the Surface will provide significantly more performance when in another form factor (like a NUC).
Which is interesting in that it means today, the design of the device itself -- in terms of heat dissipation coupled with total system power -- is what determines performance, not which processor model you have.
Geekbench's own numbers put the iPad Air at 4528, only 10% off the i5. Which is astounding, because five years ago Intel's ULV CPUs were hitting 2000-2500 on the same benchmark while Apple's new A4 was 200.
The flagship ARM CPUs cost a tenth as much as Intel's chips, consume a fraction of the power, and have been roughly doubling performance every year while Intel has virtually plateaued*. If that trend continues, by the end of this year they'll have surpassed Intel on virtually every metric.
Of course, AMD reached pole position a decade ago until Intel's Core 2 decisively took back the lead. Intel may repeat history with Skylake; if not, the computer world could get a lot more interesting over the next few years.
(*on clock speed and IPC they're been scarcely improving 10% a year; IPW is increasing somewhat faster but still well behind ARM designs)
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It's been interesting how ARM has been gradually getting closer to desktop performance, while Intel has been getting their TPD down. The real metric however is cost. For Apple or even MS, being able to shave another $200 off their price by ditching Intel for ARM is tempting. Now MS, having its bad experience with ARM is less likely to for it, whereas Apple is definitely at least internally testing desktop ARM chips. With their LLVM work and now Metal on Mac the change is a lot easier than their PPC--> Intel was. Now a quad core A8X or whatever their A9 is going to be should nudge it up past that last 25% or so and it would cost them way less.
It looks like MS dropped ARM too soon. That and they totally botched their transition. Looks like Apple is gonna pull it off and regular users may not even notice the switch. Just gradually converge from both ends til one day your laptop also runs iPad apps.
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I have two surface pro 3's. They're by far, hands down, the best tablet for music production and performance. They run full-blown ProTools, VST plugins, Ableton Live, and the full suite of Native Instruments software. I have USB ports for my external audio hardware and MIDI and the touch interface is delightful for on-screen faders and drawing waveforms and envelope curves.
I don't care if I'm a niche. I love my Surface Pro 3's. Somebody finally made something exactly the way I need it.
You cannot produce professional music on any iPad. All of the external hardware are toys and the music apps are nothing but gimmick.
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surface pro 3 is not a tablet. it's a pc. And it's worthless without it's keyboard, everyone that owns one knows this.
Disclaimer, I own one.
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Except no Wifi.... but that's normal for the surface 3 on Windows 8.1 Last update borked wifi hard and I had to wipe my surface to defaults to get it back.
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I was about to post that. That's like putting the motor of a freakin' tank inside a BMW Mini car.
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Funny people comparing cost. Apple stuff was (still is expensive)... Surface Pro 3 is not cheap either. That being said, the evaluation was done on performance, not cost. Folks, you need to realize that the surface pro 3 is a full blown computer, not simply a tablet. I purchased a Surface Pro 3 last year. The device is solid. I prefer it over my apple macbook pro - don't kid yourself, the keyboard on the Surface is way better than the Apple MBP. It replaced my table, laptop and desktop computer(s). I purchased two docking stations which connect to my 30" dell monitors at home and work. I purchased the i5 with 8GB/256 SSD, the machine runs Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop perfectly. Battery is fantastic. I wish it had 4G/LTE built in, but it doesn't. As far as WiFi, it goofs up occasionally, but overall not too bad, but can get frustrating - it's been about a year and I would have figured a software update would have fixed that by now. Maybe it's just me. I wish the device had Intel's wifi for the wireless display stuff, but MS has some sort of device for wireless display, I haven't tried it, I'm not sure how good it is. Otherwise, having been using it for about a year now as my primary computer, I am super impressed by the device. Only thing that truly sucks in my opinion is using it like a laptop (not notebook) actually on your lap. It's top heavy and the keyboard can detach if you operate it this way, the device could easily fall and break. If you're on the fence, don't mind using Windows - take the plunge, it's pretty good. Besides, in a year you'll toss it anyways (we're always upgrading!) I hope the surface pro 4 works with the SP3 docking station. Waiting for folks to reply giving me a hard time because I actually like a Microsoft product - sorry, but it's a good device - and I've gotten over Windows 8/8.1 - I mostly 99.99% of the time just run in desktop mode - not a giant adjustment like folks claim. I agree, there should be NO adjustment, but MS is just trying stuff. They say they consulted with users while developing the Windows 8 interface, I'm not sure who those users actually are! As far as the OS - it's stable. I've had ZERO crashes/bluescreens/etc on the Surface over the year aside from one Windows update which made my heart skip a beat thinking the machine was cooked - i was just impatient. I am running Visual Studio/Adobe products/Office mostly.
Technically it was a tank analogy.
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According to specs the surface pro 3 weighs about 1.76 pounds.
Nexus 9 weighs about 0.961 pounds
Ipad air 2 with cellular weighs about: 0.98 pound (444 g)
Ipad air 2 with wifi weighs about Weight: 0.96 pound (437 g)
Macbook Air weighs about 2.38 pounds
Planes come with USB ports. You need one of those new-fangled low power Windows devices that charges via USB! :)
You can also run a full OS_X on the surface 3. Makes more sense than IOS or Android on that hardware.
Wifi not working yet, but as lumpy said, wifi doesn't work in Windows 8.1 either, half the time. (fix the bugs ffs!)
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@mystuff: "But does it run Linux?"
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Computers (laptops, tablets) long ago surpassed the point where bench marks matter to most of us.
They are faster than we need them to be except for cutting edge stuff.
Of course each faction will tout a benchmark if it shows them in a good light or ignore it if it does not.
But it's meaningless noise. There are many other factors which have significant weight in the decision process besides performances on an arbitrary set of tasks.
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A $900 tablet is faster than a $500 tablet. Who would have guessed that you can pay almost twice as much for something that is 30% faster on certain benchmark tests. I actually like the Surface Pro 3, but this article is more of a fanboy blog post than a real review of a product.
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Except no Wifi.... but that's normal for the surface 3 on Windows 8.1 Last update borked wifi hard and I had to wipe my surface to defaults to get it back.
Except that the very link that "mystuff" provided shows that WiFi DOES work under ubuntu 14.04 on the Surface Pro 3. Where'd you get your info? Seems you just need to copy the wifi firmware into place, which is trivial (use a thumb drive). The hardest part seems to be getting the windows partition resized (forcing system files to move by using PerfectDisk).
So a 20% difference in speed for a 30% difference in price. Good to know.
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