June 30th Leap Second Could Trigger Unexpected Issues
dkatana writes: On January 31, 2013, approximately 400 milliseconds before the official release of the EIA Natural Gas Report, trading activity exploded in Natural Gas Futures. It is believed that was the result of some fast computer trading systems being programmed to act, and have a one-second advance access to the report. On June 30th a leap second will be added to the Network Time Protocol (NTP) to keep it synchronized with the slowly lengthening solar day. In this article, Charles Babcock gives a detailed account of the issues, and some disturbing possibilities: The last time a second needed to be added to the day was on June 30, 2012. For Qantas Airlines in Australia, it was a memorable event. Its systems, including flight reservations, went down for two hours as internal system clocks fell out of synch with external clocks.
The original author of the NTP protocol, Prof. David Mills at the University of Delaware, set a direct and simple way to add the second: Count the last second of June 30 twice, using a special notation on the second count for the record. Google will use a different approach: Over a 20-hour period on June 30, Google will add a couple of milliseconds to each of its NTP servers' updates. By the end of the day, a full second has been added. As the NTP protocol and Google timekeepers enter the first second of July, their methods may differ, but they both agree on the time.
But that could also be problematic. In adding a second to its NTP servers in 2005, Google ran into timekeeping problems on some of its widely distributed systems. The Mills sleight-of-hand was confusing to some of its clusters, as they fell out of synch with NTP time. Does Google's smear approach make more sense to you, or does Mills's idea of counting the last second twice work better? Do you have a better idea of how to handle this?
The original author of the NTP protocol, Prof. David Mills at the University of Delaware, set a direct and simple way to add the second: Count the last second of June 30 twice, using a special notation on the second count for the record. Google will use a different approach: Over a 20-hour period on June 30, Google will add a couple of milliseconds to each of its NTP servers' updates. By the end of the day, a full second has been added. As the NTP protocol and Google timekeepers enter the first second of July, their methods may differ, but they both agree on the time.
But that could also be problematic. In adding a second to its NTP servers in 2005, Google ran into timekeeping problems on some of its widely distributed systems. The Mills sleight-of-hand was confusing to some of its clusters, as they fell out of synch with NTP time. Does Google's smear approach make more sense to you, or does Mills's idea of counting the last second twice work better? Do you have a better idea of how to handle this?
The only problem mentioned is that they fall out of sync with each other. If they're both otherwise fine, just pick one. Sounds like the disadvantages of either one aren't as big as the disadvantage of them not working well together.
A problem for sysadmins is that the status quo of the standards requires that we choose which standard we want to violate. We can violate the specification of UTC by not counting 23:59:60 or we can violate POSIX by counting it or we can violate POSIX and the SI second by not actually keeping the system clock on UTC using smeared seconds that are not suitable for tracking projectiles and other real-time applications. This problem is old, 50 years old, as seen in the 3 plots on this web page.
We have 600 machines in my company's network distributed over 20 cities in our country. The servers are all located on our main branch and are connected through slow WAN frame relay links (up to 4Mbps)
We have time differences between machines, sometimes up to 3 or 4 minutes, and we don't seem to have issues. I find it strange than a possible 1 second different could cause so much issues.
Perhaps the Google method is better because the adjustment will take place during the day and not at the last second.
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Also this is an awesome graph, and illustrates that the Earth is a horrible clock: https://upload.wikimedia.org/w...
1^2=1; (-1)^2=1; 1^2=(-1)^2; 1=-1; 1=0.
The ITU-R has outlined 4 methods for the future of UTC. Methods A1, A2, B, C1, C2, and D are from various delegations of the international assembly, and they are in serious disagreement with each other.
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The ITU-R has outlined 4 methods for the future of UTC
Only method A1(*) proposes to redefine UTC. All other methods are keeping UTC just as it is.
To sum up the methods :
A1: No more leap seconds, UTC will drift from UT1.
A2: Come up with a new name for "UTC without leap seconds" as the broadcast universal time, UTC becomes legacy.
B: Keep UTC as it is, also broadcast a TAI-based reference time on an equal basis.
C1: Keep UTC as it is, also broadcast a delta between UTC and TAI.
C2: Same as C1, with more verbose recommendations.
D: Keep UTC as it is.
(*) With A2, UTC is not broadcasted anymore, so it has the same implications as A1, but mbone was going with the definition of UTC, so there's room for nitpicking :)
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Please look at this tzdist internet draft which is close to becoming an RFC. The tzdist protocol can communicate the list of leap seconds along with the list of time zones.