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Robot Swarm Behavior Suggests Forgetting May Be Important To Cultural Evolution

Hallie Siegel writes: Can we learn about human cultural evolution by studying how group behaviour in robots evolves? Researchers in the Artificial Culture Project are trying to do just that. Prof. Alan Winfield from the Bristol Robotics Lab discusses his latest research on modelling the process by which cultural memes develop in robots when they pass learned behaviours to other robots in their group. Some interesting findings suggest imitation noise (ie. when the behaviour isn't learned perfectly) and forgetfulness (i.e. when the robot has only limited memory of the behaviours it is trying to imitate) lead to stronger cultural memes in the robot behaviour.

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  1. bring back the comments link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    good job iam not blind, no underlined links anywhere to this comment thread, who knew that the title was clickable ?

    who are the retard designers breaking all the ADA guidlines and putting 25years of usability UX/UI in the trash, have you learnt NOTHING ? , mind you if programmers had common sense SQL injections wouldnt exist anymore.

    so bring the link back jerks

  2. Fanstastic! by Psychotria · · Score: 4, Funny

    The difference was clear and significant; with limited memory an average of 2.8 clusters of average size 8.3, with unlimited memory 3.9 clusters of size 6.9.

    Why is this clustering interesting? Well it’s because the number and size of clusters in the meme pool are good indicators of its diversity. Think of each cluster of related memes as a ‘tradition’. A healthy culture needs a balance between stability and diversity. Neither too much stability, i.e. a very small number (in the limit 1) of traditions, or too much diversity, i.e. clusters so small that there are no persistent traditions at all. Perhaps the ideal balance is a smallish number of somewhat persistent traditions.

    No shit that the unlimited memory will result in fewer clusters -- they have, well, unlimited memory so they have much more (unlimited actually) scope for creating new clusters.

    This study of some hypothesis (hypothesis) is literally begging the question by answering the question with... err the question itself.

    I guess this is why I dislike most models. This "study" demonstrates nothing. Absolutely nothing except that the model behaves according to the model. Maybe a new phrase is needed: "begging the model".

    1. Re:Fanstastic! by Psychotria · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, they showed that what their algorithm produced is what they designed the algorithm to do.

      There is no fitness function or anything.

      It's just... I'm not sure how to explain it. You can't form a hypothesis, develop and algorithm to mimic that hypothesis and then draw any conclusions because the algorithm does what it was designed to do. That just begs the question, as I initially said, and shows nothing.

    2. Re:Fanstastic! by belthize · · Score: 2

      A fitness function would be meaningless in this case. The methodology is for each robot to independently mimic as precisely as possible what it observed given the imperfections in it's imaging system.

      The goal isn't to train the student robot to perfectly mimic the teacher the goal is to let (and I can't believe I'm about to use this term) nature take its course and see what new memes arise and how they cluster.

    3. Re:Fanstastic! by Psychotria · · Score: 2

      You're correct, but aren't the robots:

      a) observing the scene;
      b) recreating the scene/trajectory as they see it; and
      c) watching again and repeating

      ?

      1) In the case of unlimited trials what will happen is that fewer clusters will be formed because the robots will follow the "average" trajectory of noise
      2) In the case of limited trials more clusters will form (and they will be closer to the original trajectory because the amount of noise contributing to the trajectory is less) and the trajectories they follow will more closely resemble the original "course"

      Maybe I'm missing something important. I'll read the paper again.

  3. Re:Interesting. Ants have very poor memory by belthize · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They may have crap memory but they have good pheromone receptors. All she was doing was forcing the ant to strengthen the path signal.

    On a random side note, we have fairly large ants (1/2 inch) around here that make these 6 foot diameter circles cleared of all material. 30 or so years ago I sat with a six pack and watched them for hours on end. It was kind of fascinating.

    Some percentage (presumably >50%) of the ants seemed to be driven to take material from inside the mound and deposit it outside the mound.
    Some percentage (presumably 50%) seemed to be driven to pick up some material from outside and deposit it inside (probably MBAs).

    Some were lazy and would either drop or pick up material just a few inches from the hole, some a few feet and some adventurous souls would wander 10 to 20 feet away.

    The result was a net movement of material from inside the hole and a distribution of material that was maximized around the whole and tapering to nearly zero about 3 feet from the hole. Given monsoonal rains that tapering pretty much ensures the hole is high enough above the local ground level that flooding is rare.

    Bloody inefficient but they got there.

  4. Re:Interesting. Ants have very poor memory by belthize · · Score: 2

    Agreed, I wish I'd phrased that better. It was a wonderful case study in complex systems emerging from very simple rule sets.