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An anonymous reader writes: As a recent college graduate I now have a job and enough money to actually buy things and donate to causes. Up until now I really haven't been paying attention to which groups are best to donate and which are scams. For example, Goodwill seems like a great organization until you dig deeper and discover they hire under privileged and disabled people only to exploit the related government handouts instead of doing it to benefit those people. What are some quality organizations to donate to? Who do you donate to and why? I'm looking for improving the poor, supporting constitutional rights, and supporting issues many Slashdotters can agree on such as net neutrality and anything against the media companies. I don't care what political group the money ends up going to. The specific case is more important than some arbitrary label. I'm also in the USA, so foreign recommendations are probably less helpful.

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  1. Well lah-dee-dah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a recent college graduate

    Showoff.

    1. Re:Well lah-dee-dah by sycodon · · Score: 2

      I suspect this altruism won't last long.

      With in a year his credit card and auto debt will become a burden and he'll keep everything for himself.

      If he gets out of that, he'll meet some girl and then the money will be sucked out of him again.

      THEN, he'll get her pregnant and end up paying nearly $250,000 until they turn 18...more if he's a real Dad and pays for college.

      So just take that money and put it into a Roth Account or something.

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    2. Re:Well lah-dee-dah by mlts · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You hit the nail on the head:

      Student loans are the absolute worst debt one can get because they don't go away. Tell any other type of creditor other than a government entity to shove it, and they have a statute of limitations (4 years in Texas) until they have to write off the debt [1].

      Say the economy hits the shitter, which it will, one winds up filing personal bankruptcy, has to use a bicycle, and has to find some cheap rent arrangement. After 7-10 years, one can continue with life. Student loan debts are permanent. When they shit on your credit score, that stays forever.

      So, in a nutshell, the OP has a good heart for finding a charity, but he or she needs to first get rid of student loan debt for a better financial position to actually do more good.

      Now, assuming there are no student loans, I'd probably go for local charities. The local food bank comes to mind. One never knows... they may be donating to it one day, having to get food the next.

      [1]: One side note, when they do write it off, the IRS considers that as "income"...

  2. How about by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since it's Slashdot:

    Free Software Foundation http://fsf.org/

    Electronic Freedom Foundation http://eff.org/

    American Civil Liberties Union http://aclu.org/

    Make sure they are registered as a 501(c)(3) so your donations are tax-deducible.

    I'd skip sending money to ISIS or the Taliban. It's probably not tax-deductible and may result in unpleasant imprisonment.

    1. Re:How about by Nemesisghost · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd skip sending money to ISIS or the Taliban. It's probably not tax-deductible and may result in unpleasant imprisonment.

      With the current administration, the same could be said for anything that they dislike. They've not only used the IRS to target groups that oppose them, but also put out a list of attributes that they are using to classify domestic terrorist which include things like having more than a month's worth of food & owning a gun.

    2. Re:How about by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2, Informative

      The days when the ACLU had any care about civil liberties are long gone.

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    3. Re:How about by Elentar · · Score: 2

      Donated once to the EFF and the ACLU at different times. The incredible volume of spam mail, junk mail, and phone calls that I received from these two organizations convinced me to never contribute to them again, as well as likely costing them more than my donation.

      My advice: Donate to a local organization, not a national or international one. They are less likely to have hordes of administrative flunkies to bother you later (and consume donation money), and you'll be helping the community you live in. There are good causes in every community in America.

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    4. Re:How about by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      No but then I also don't want to carry around lethal force and have people legally compelled to obey me under threat of such force, and for people who do want that, sacrificing their privacy on the job for that kind of authority seems reasonable.

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  3. No Organizations by ClubPetey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't donate to any organized cause. Even the best run, most efficient ones still have part of your dollar go to administrative or marketing costs.

    As you move through life, you will meet plenty of people that need help. Give that pan handler on the side of the road a hamburger. Help your single-working-mother neighbor by paying for a baby sitter so she can have a night out. Buy groceries for the person in line at the store behind you that is using food stamps.

    Or, donate your time. Join Habitat for Humanity and build a house for someone.

    While all these options take more time/effort than just entering your credit card into a website, those donations of money/time will be completely dedicated to the person in need.

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    1. Re:No Organizations by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Help someone who shows promise.

      We are going to die within +/-75 years of being born, and most of us are simply experiments in the gene pool. So quit thinking of yourself as a person who deserves to be alive, and start thinking of yourself as a step in the right direction.

      Maybe you are, maybe you aren't, but these things cannot be discerned by individuals. Because to individuals, we all are important.

      Pan handlers generally fall under the "don't donate" category. But you may meet someone under the "pan handler" category who deserves support. And don't just give $20 and call it good. Develop a relationship, encourage, and give when in makes sense.

      The Renaissance happened in large part because people became patrons. We have Patreon to take a small percentage, or you can care about the people in your area enough to stop the parasitic investor class.

      Find someone who shows promise, strike up a conversation, and figure out what they need. Offer it to them. They will be grateful, and you will have helped out a needy individual who will generate both individual profit and, most likely, profit for some bar or art store or indie label or whatever.

      Boosting interest helps that individual, but it stimulates in real dollars the local economy.

      Do you want to stimulate a foreign economy instead?

    2. Re:No Organizations by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

      As a recent college graduate, you have something particularly rare and useful to people in certain situations -- your education and skills. "Spending" that and your time to bring those things to people who need them and may not have the money to spend on them:

      • provides something rarer than money, and
      • doesn't involve taxes and middlemen

      For example, if you're a chemistry major, helping motivated high-school kids with even basic chemistry would mean they don't have to spend their own or their parents' (likely post-tax) money on tutors, assuming their families could even afford one. Assisting also makes you better able to communicate concepts in your own field to laypeople of a variety of perspectives and skill levels, simultaneously builds your personal and professional exposure, and immediately starts assisting people in a way that only a small portion of society can. Spending a little of your own money in the course of this to improve the experience for both parties would make sense too.

      Another non-traditional option that the Internet provides is the opportunity to support individuals with less friction through sites like Kickstarter, Bandcamp, and Patreon. Even though an artist may make their work available to the general public for free, you can still support someone whose work you like, so they have the resources to continue to produce their work for everybody's benefit. This way, you have an excuse to harass your friends to check out their stuff, simultaneously promoting them financially and by word-of-mouth.

      Finally, you could also consider saving your donation money for now in a separate account. This way, you can spend it once you find something that really strikes a chord with you, rather than feeling that the money is burning a hole in your pocket.

    3. Re:No Organizations by dcollins117 · · Score: 2

      We are going to die within +/-75 years of being born, and most of us are simply experiments in the gene pool.

      How many people die 75 years before they are born? Not arguing with your statistics, but the thing that most people have in their heads that act as a central repository of thoughts and ideas seems to be malfunctioning in your case.

  4. Re:Local and small by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    thats always the best bet. keep it local

    other than that, id say EFF is a good one

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  5. Donate your time not your money by mcelrath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you want to spend several months a year of your life auditing inefficient "charity" organizations and trying to make judgments about whether they're doing it right and spending your dollars wisely...and hey if you think you're good at that you should probably start your own charity. But if you do, everyone will expect you to work for free. It's a viscous circle.

    Donate your time, you'll meet people too.

    Unless you're a multi-billionaire, then start a foundation and direct where the money goes.

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  6. Donations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Before donating to any charity, you want to be sure that the lion's share of the money will go where it's needed. Every charity has different overhead costs. You can research you favorite charities -- learning how much of your donation will go to the intended purpose (vs. how much will go to overhead) at Give.org, CharityWatch.org and CharityNavigator.org. ( Info from http://www.clarkhoward.com )

  7. 401K by gerf · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know it sounds selfish, but put away a few percent ASAP. Then, the EFF is a good bet, unless you work in government and want them to flag you as a possible terrorist. Then, pick one that has a decent return. http://www.charitynavigator.or...

    1. Re:401K by Pfhorrest · · Score: 2

      Wow, $50K a year is "only the bare necessities" to you?

      That's about my annual income (and about the mean income, I should note), and I only spend about a quarter of that on things I actually consume (the rest goes to taxes, rents, and savings to eventually escape from those rents), and I feel like I spent pretty carelessly on whatever I feel like. And you realize most people in this country live on less than half of that? (The median personal income is around $25K). "Bare necessities" is more like $6K/year, or about $100/week, and it's possible to live on half of that (I should know, my disabled mom does).

      $50K/year of consumption is living the fucking high life.

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  8. Constituional Rights by Kunedog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also the NRA since he wants to protect constitutional rights and the ACLU has a few embarrassing gaps in that regard.

  9. Child's Play by The+Raven · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not on your list of causes, so perhaps you won't care, but the crew running Child's Play have been up front on where the money goes: it is spent on nothing but toys. None of the staff, such as it is, get paid out of your donations; they all work for Penny Arcade, who run Child's Play on the side.

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  10. Local, local, local by PuddleBoy · · Score: 2

    There are undoubtedly small, local, homeless shelters that need clothing, toiletries, various consumables. Those things will go directly to those who need them.

    Is there a local group who recycles/reuses electronics? (maybe turning old PC's into Linux boxen, to be given to low-income families) Donate a couple items and drop off $20.

    There are very small, not well known women's/family shelters that are always desperate for anything from socks, underwear, blankets, toys, to dishes, cleaning supplies, etc. Sometimes not easy to find these - they tend to keep a low profile, but their services are vital for people who find themselves in a very difficult situation.

    Check the websites of local charities - they usually list the specific things they are most in need of.

    I donate stuff to Goodwill... after I have offered it to groups like the ones listed above, but they don't have an immediate need.

  11. When Helping Hurts by VerdantHue · · Score: 2

    I'd recommend reading _When Helping Hurts_ by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert. I think this book addresses some of the concerns you intuitively have about selecting a worthwhile charity.

  12. Doctors Without Borders by Prune · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're effective, efficient (per dollar), and badly needed. I spent some time looking for something I could be comfortable donating to monthly, and this is the one I concentrated all my charitable donations to (aside from my own volunteering in an unrelated area). http://www.msf.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  13. Re:Donate to your university by ganjadude · · Score: 2

    he just gave them (most likely) 100+ thousand dollars... and you want him to KEEP paying them????

    no, donate to your college after you have made it, not while you are still paying for it!

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  14. Re:Local and small by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you dont have to keep it local but recirculating money in your own location is better than shipping it to other areas.

    You bet. EFF and the Chicago Food Depository are two at the top of my list, but we've also made a sizable donation to http://www.law-arts.org/ because they helped me out a lot on several occasions when I was just starting out. Also, the Chicago Justice Project, http://chicagojustice.org/ gets some dough because they're actually trying to do some good here. They're data wonks who are fighting to get more transparency in Chicago policing and the data that Chicago policing generates. Tracy Siska is a good dude that has been a constant source of aggravation for the past few Chicago mayors and police chiefs, and I like that.

    Though the old girl and I donate close to 10% of our annual income, the biggest donations I make are of my own time. Last Saturday, I spent the day busting sod over at the Englewood Community Garden, where students from Lindblom Academy (a public school in Chicago's inner city) have designed and built a terrific big organic community garden to address the food desert issue in that neighborhood. http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago... . I'm unskilled labor when it comes to vegetable gardens though. The wife does a lot better.

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  15. "Exploitation" is propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reason the government and Goodwill "exploit" each other and the disabled people is that those disabled people really don't work efficiently enough to be worth minimum wage, and consequently without a subsidy, would be unemployable. Since the government unions won't allow the disabled to be hired directly, Goodwill is the vehicle that allows them to have a meaningful job. Sure, the CEO of Goodwill makes $850K/year, not actually that good for an organization with a $5B annual revenue. They're putting about 83 cents on the dollar into the disabled, which is a very low overhead when you realize how painfully expensive it is to deal with government contracting.

    is a much better source than random shit on the internet.

  16. Aged-out foster children by excursive · · Score: 2

    There's probably a local organization that helps foster children who have aged out of the system. They really get a raw deal in life.

    Local arts organizations are also good choices, especially if they have full-time local performers on staff.

    And the usual biggies - the ACLU, EFF, Greenpeace, Amnesty International - and some smaller ones, like the American Friends Service Committee and Friends Committee on Legislation.

  17. Get involved and choose by Strider- · · Score: 2

    As many have mentioned, the best thing to do is to get involved with an organization or cause that you care about. If you actually work with the organization, you will a) be helping them out significantly with your time and talents, and b) have a better feel as to whether they are using the funds they receive responsibly. I am on the board of directors of a mid sized (roughly $3,000,000/year) 501(c)3, and I know precisely what our overhead is. I also volunteer heavily for said organization (primarily network design, and electrical type work), and donate when I can.

    Despite what other people say, any organization that is viable will have overhead. It costs money to ensure the books are properly kept and audited, there are bills to pay, and non-profits of all organizations, should pay their employees a fair and reasonable wage. From a financial point of view, the real key is to ensure that the books are properly kept, and there are adequate controls in place to ensure that the money is spent in an appropriate manner.

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  18. Re:Donate to your university by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're a recent college grad. Donate to your university.

    That may be the worst possible use of charity funds. University endowments do little but grow and become fiefdoms for development departments and university presidents. University of Chicago has over a billion dollars and Harvard has like twice that. They ask for money constantly (I get the mailings) but keep raising tuition, while replacing real professors with low-paid adjuncts.

    Higher education in the United States has become a complete scam. When I graduated over thirty years ago, I donated to my alma mater until I spent the time to look into exactly what they were doing with the money.

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  19. Why is that a bad thing? by 91degrees · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Underprivileged and disabled people have a hard time getting work, so Goodwill gives them an opportunity to be a productive member of society. The fact that they get government handouts for this means that they have more money to spend on other projects.

  20. Too early by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    Donate to your pension fund if you don't want to become the poor of tomorrow.

  21. Re:Local and small by BillCable · · Score: 2

    Or you can set up your own, as I and the members of the Pennsylvania Star Wars Collecting Society have done. Through our 501c3 we choose a local charity each year and conduct a fundraiser.

    http://pswcs.com/charity.cfm

  22. Local food pantries and shelters by azemon · · Score: 2

    If you check, you will be dismayed how many people in your own hometown lack basic food and shelter. Help them.

  23. Re:Donate to your university by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone else pointed out, I significantly underestimated the size of the UofC and Harvard endownments. Rather than $1 bil and $2 bil respectively, it's more like $8 bil and $36 bil.

    I suppose I was still thinking about how rich the endowments were back when I first realized the size of the scam some years ago.

    It also tells you how fast these endowments are growing.

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  24. Accusation against GoodWill by MobyDisk · · Score: 2

    Goodwill seems like a great organization until you dig deeper and discover they hire under privileged and disabled people only to exploit the related government handouts instead of doing it to benefit those people.

    The summary makes an an unsupported and unclear accusation against Goodwill. If this submission is a legitimate question it should either eliminate this accusation or cite it and explain what criteria the submitter is looking for.

    Submitter: What do you mean when you say they "exploit the related government handouts instead of doing it to benefit those people?" What exploitation are you talking about? My concern here is that it sounds like you would only donate to Goodwill if they refused the government handouts. But since all non-profits get handouts, in the form of tax benefits, I fear that no non-profit will meet your requirements.

  25. Re:good advice by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    American Red Cross is actually highly-efficient, but a peripheral blog called ProPublica has been twisting facts to smear them. It's all bullshit. They do things like take Red Cross's lessons learned (a document where they address everything that goes wrong with any response and plan out what actions to take to make those problems never happen again) and waving them around to show that Red Cross can't do anything right; or they claim that Red Cross pays for services from other economic suppliers (builders, distributors, etc.) and thus pays a lot more overhead because "those contractors have overhead, too".

    ProPublica's last article was hyperbole, focusing on a $24 million project in Haiti where Red Cross originally was going to build houses, but instead built roads and repaired damaged schools and homes--that out of a $488 million budget with which they built hospitals, distributed food, provided cholera vaccinations (Cholera was killing thousands of people per week), trained the government in disaster response, and so forth.

    I've examined Red Cross's management practices. Both from an organizational management standpoint and from an economic standpoint, the American Red Cross is a top-notch organization. They practice constant and continuous organizational process improvement: they look for things going wrong and aggressively document everything that impedes their function, and then invest a large share of their organization's overhead into ridding themselves of those problems. They also take full advantage of economic efficiency: rather than spend $100 million doing work they're not qualified for in an inefficient (and possibly dangerous) way, they'll pay a contractor $50 million--even though the contractor may absorb $20 million of that into overhead, it's still cheaper and more effective than any other option. They even push their process improvement practices outward: if the American Red Cross shows up at your locale, they're going to educate your local government on preparing for and responding to major disasters, so that the next one requires much less money and time for much better relief results.

    When it comes to disaster relief, it doesn't get much better than ARC.