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Recycling Is Dying

HughPickens.com writes: Aaron C. Davis writes in the Washington Post that recycling, once a profitable business for cities and private employers alike, has become a money-sucking enterprise. Almost every recycling facility in the country is running in the red and recyclers say that more than 2,000 municipalities are paying to dispose of their recyclables instead of the other way around. "If people feel that recycling is important — and I think they do, increasingly — then we are talking about a nationwide crisis," says David Steiner, chief executive of Waste Management, the nation's largest recycler.

The problem with recylcing is that a storm of falling oil prices, a strong dollar and a weakened economy in China have sent prices for American recyclables plummeting worldwide. Trying to encourage conservation, progressive lawmakers and environmentalists have made matters worse. By pushing to increase recycling rates with bigger and bigger bins — while demanding almost no sorting by consumers — the recycling stream has become increasingly polluted and less valuable, imperiling the economics of the whole system. "We kind of got everyone thinking that recycling was free," says Bill Moore. "It's never really been free, and in fact, it's getting more expensive."

One big problem is that China doesn't want to buy our garbage anymore. In the past China had sent so many consumer goods to the United States that all the shipping containers were coming back empty. So US companies began stuffing the return-trip containers with recycled cardboard boxes, waste paper and other scrap. China could, in turn, harvest the raw materials. Everyone won. But China has launched "Operation Green Fence" — a policy to prohibit the import of unwashed post-consumer plastics and other "contaminated" waste shipments. In China, containerboard, a common packaging product from recycled American paper, is trading at just over $400 a metric ton, down from nearly $1,000 in 2010. China also needs less recycled newsprint; the last paper mill in Shanghai closed this year. "If the materials we are exporting are so contaminated that they are being rejected by those we sell to," says Valerie Androutsopoulos, "maybe it's time to take another look at dual stream recycling."

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  1. The problem is that landfills are too cheap by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every waste disposal stream has costs. The choice is what we're willing to pay to deal with it.

    That, and most Americans are too fucking lazy to sort, or have any kind of care in avoiding contamination (or even learning what that means).

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    1. Re:The problem is that landfills are too cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The choice is what we're willing to pay to deal with it.

      Unfortunately, what we're willing to pay isn't necessarily what we're thinking we're going to pay.

      So many hidden fees and charges, it's difficult to get a good cost-analysis.

    2. Re:The problem is that landfills are too cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is not that landfills are too cheap, as the title of your comment says. It's that raw natural resources are too cheap. At some point that will change as they become depleted, but for now we still exist in a time where it's cheaper to harvest or extract virgin resources than it is to recycle new, with a few notable exceptions such as aluminum. Until that changes, and it eventually will, but until it does because of the laws of supply and demand and simply economics there is not any force on earth that can make recycling work if the economics are not there.

    3. Re:The problem is that landfills are too cheap by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm a few blocks from the county dump. Across the street from the dump there's a large undeveloped foresty area.... which is covered in trash and furniture and such that people have dumped there because they don't want to pay the county dump to take their stuff. So I'd say the cost of landfills for consumers is far too high -- it needs to be free, like it is with e-waste, if we want to avoid people dumping everywhere (and not have a police state).

      A more reasonable solution would be to encourage people to get all their trash and recyclables to a central point by making it free, and then pay whatever we have to as a community via taxes to process it for recycling or disposal. We'd get a much cleaner world that way than we get by pretending we can make everybody responsible.

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    4. Re:The problem is that landfills are too cheap by Art3x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd sort, but I'm not going to sort AND pay extra money.

      Yep. I was pretty diligent about recycling right up till the local government decided that they needed to charge extra for recycling. When they required me to do extra work AND pay extra money for the service, I stopped using the service....

      Is it the government that requires you to do extra work and pay extra money, or is it just life?

      Recycling takes a certain amount of work. The government may be trying to split it with you. If they did all of the work, maybe the would have to charge even more.

      I may be wrong, and someone will certainly say something like that the government is just being greedy or wasteful. But if it were me, I would either investigate it to know for sure or just go with it.

    5. Re:The problem is that landfills are too cheap by znrt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's unbelievable that these costs aren't part of the public budget. I'm trying to be a responsible citizen by hauling my large or toxic waste to the proper disposal facility and you won't let me dump it until I pay some hefty fee?

      that's actually fair. if you consume/dispose more volume than me, why should i pay for recycling your stuff?

      however, i still prefer having this as a regulated public service. most big cities do, afaik.

      The next time I'm getting rid of a refrigerator, air conditioner, or other electronics, I'll just leave it in a ditch somewhere.

      try harder (to be a responsible citizen) :-)

  2. Rubbish (pun intended) by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I RTFA the article on contamination.

    It's very disengenuous.

    For example it's all "oe noes toxic inks removed from paper during recycling are landfilled", so recycling is bad! Somehow this is different from dumping the very same toxic inks into a land fill while temporarily attached to paper.

    The same complaint is repeated through the article.

    Basically they're blaming recycling for the toxic crap that's in stuff, while ignoring the fact that landfilling toxic crap has exactly the same problems.

    And lead based spray paints? Apart from for historical reconstruction work, lead paint has been illegal here since 1992.

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  3. Screw capitalism by Squapper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we don't want to save the world because it's "not profitable", then we are truly fucked. What are we, Ferengi?

    1. Re:Screw capitalism by Squapper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You might not realize it but you are hitting the nail on the head. People won't go working for recycling centers for free to make them more profitable. That's exactly why capitalism won't solve environmental problems.

  4. Meh by Alomex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    then we are talking about a nationwide crisis,

    Crisis: the most overused word of the environmental movement. Nothing is ever a snag or a bump along the way that needs to be sorted out. No siree, everything is a world ending crisis. Not enough demand for recycled cardboard? OMG. it's a crisis.

  5. Economic Externality by monkeyxpress · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Recycling is just a manifestation of the sorts of externalities that fundamentally flaw many economic systems. For example, I find it intriguing that in London people go buy a plastic packaged sandwich that is relatively tasteless for lunch, while a comparatively poor person in Vietnam or Malaysia goes to a local shop and buys an incredibly tasty freshly made noodle bowl for about a tenth of the price.

    Which of those people is really wealthier? Sure one has fiat currency wealth, but the other arguably enjoys (food wise anyway) a better quality of life.

    This is the insanity of measuring the well-being of your citizens by how much fiat currency they are accumulating. It is even crazier because we now have a huge section of the economy (the financial industry) that is effectively just creating fiat currency - i.e. no real wealth. This is no surprise if you have a system that is ambivalent to whether GDP growth is coming from breaking windows and fixing them or creating a new treatment for cancer.

    Personally I just think this is because free market economics and the blind pursuit of GDP growth are attractive to lazy politicians. They don't have to think about real social issues, come up with plans to deal with them, and then be held responsible for whether they succeed. They can just go, 'hey the market does what the market does', and leave it to their banking buddies to create asset bubbles in the housing market if they can't get any GDP growth in the real economy.

    It will be a hard problem to change the way we measure economic success in both the minds of government and society, but if we don't eventually we will just see our real wealth bleed away until fiat currency becomes as worthless as its intrinsic value would suggest.

  6. Some simple proposals by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First, stop recycling glass, it is a boondoggle. It takes more energy than just making more glass. Throw it in the ocean, we all like beach glass. Just put it someplace where it statistically will get polished smooth before it washes up on a beach, problem solved. Outlaw any kinds of glass for containers that would present an environmental hazard due to additives.

    Second, let's get packaging under control, and just produce a whole lot less of it. And if we produce less plastic bottles, and go back to using more glass, then we won't need to do as much recycling, see point above. But packaging is just idiotic. What percentage of plastic clamshells are even stamped for recycling? That should be illegal. Everything plastic over a few grams should have to be marked for recycling by law if you want to sell it. For the want of a trivially-expensive feature, tons of plastic has to go to landfills that could reasonably be recycled. And since it's not food waste, it's not dirty.

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  8. Re:e-waste by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "fix it when it breaks"

    Do you even have a smartphone? These things are designed to be unrepairable, or so expensive to repair you might as well replace them.

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  9. Re:Incineration by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It all depends how you do it. Plenty of environmentalists applaud sensible refuse-burning power plants & community heating projects. If you just stick it in a field, cover it with gas, light it, and try to generate electricity from that, of course environmentalists would complain. You'd probably complain too if it was near you.