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WiFi Offloading is Skyrocketing

dkatana writes: WiFi Offloading is skyrocketing. This is the conclusion of a new report from Juniper Research, which points out that the amount of smartphone and tablet data traffic on WiFi networks will will increase to more than 115,000 petabytes by 2019, compared to under 30,000 petabytes this year, representing almost a four-fold increase. Most of this data is offloaded to consumer's WiFi by the carriers, offering the possibility to share your home internet connection in exchange for "free" hotspots. But this article on InformationWeek Network Computing also warns that "The capacity of the 2.4GHz band is reaching its limit. [...] the growing number of WiFi devices using unlicensed bands is seriously affecting network efficiency. Capacity is compromised by the number of simultaneously active devices, with transmission speeds dropping as much as 20% of the nominal value. With the number of IoT and M2M applications using WiFi continuously rising, that could become a serious problem soon."

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  1. Haha, you FOOLS thought you could go without wires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have my revenge!

  2. Not me by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't be caught dead sharing my wi-fi. There are companies that try to make a living threatening to sue you if they see downloads coming from your IP. Even if you're innocent it costs more to litigate than to just pay, but you're still out $5k...

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    1. Re:Not me by sumdumass · · Score: 2

      I was thinking the same thing. I bet the cops do not initially buy the story about open WiFi when they kick your door in, put you in bracelets, and proceed to notify the news channel that they just busted a pedo looking at kiddie porn just before perpwalking you to the squad car. It would probably take weeks before some lab informed them that your harddrive is clean

    2. Re:Not me by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Informative

      coming from your IP

      You know the public hotspot traffic is segregated to a separate IP addresses, right?

      At least that's how Comcast does it. Can't imagine there rest aren't also doing the perfectly obvious.

      There are entirely legitimate reasons to object to this stuff, but being held liable for public hotspot traffic due to conflated IP addresses isn't one of them.

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    3. Re:Not me by GoddersUK · · Score: 2

      Typically speaking these connections are made via a third party (such as Fon) who would appear as the IP address owner/ISP for that connection. So Bob buys an access voucher and accesses some kind of illegal content through my router. His connection, however doesn't go to my ISP, but is VPNed (or similar) straight to Fon, by the router. So when the feds get his IP address and they look it up they see that it is owned by Fon. They'll ask Fon who it is and, depending on how they keep their records, they'll either say "ain't got a clue" or "It was Bob. This is his credit card number". The only time I can see the identity of the owner of the router being relevant is if the police needed to pin down an IRL location (say to try and figure out the region in which a paedophile lives).

      IANAL, but provided you don't breach your ISPs rules about connection sharing (in many cases Fon is built into the router by the ISP, so this should be a non issue in those cases) all potential liability would lie on Fon as the service provider. All your router does is provide a route for Fon's customers to connect to the Fon network.

    4. Re:Not me by Pax681 · · Score: 2

      The way this works with British Telecom is that you have multiple SIDs on your router. There's one you connect to that you have control over, and there are also additional SIDs like "BTWifi-with-FON" and "BTWifi-X" with separate IP address and logging that you have no control over.
      I think that BT internet customers have a free access to these all over the country and if they opt-out of this they can then get it disabled on their own home router. This way BT claims they literally have millions of WIFI access points all over the country, yet the experience is terrible if actually the network is on residential ADSL (upstream capped to 448kb/s for instance).

      Incidentally I've wondered whether you could just replace their ADSL or VDSL (FTTC) router with something of your own without these additional access points and still been able to access their national network of access points for free.

      Not quite the way it works bud. You DO have control over the public hotspot.. in settings you can turn it on or off.
      /my advice would be to opt into the BT wifi scheme on the BT website, connect your router with it opted in. BT then gets a wee signal from it and you are then verified and allowed on the fon network and their partners worldwide. THEN.. turn the fucking public wifi off and you'll never have a problem.. it's only ever checked once

      Also it's a trivial matter to change router. I have this puppy which is future proof enough for me, can handle any isp/connection type(adsl,vdsl, cable) and when you run the Asuswrt-Merlin firmware . it gives you a lot more settings to tweat and explore and is a pretty fucking rock solid router and it looks sweet :P
      BTW your BT connection username and password is user = BT passie = user i shit you not.

      I left BT and moved to talktalk... I know. they are SHITE but at 26 quids all in for 80mb down and 20mb up including phone charges(just tell them you will go to sky.. they'll give you an offer) and i am 60 meters by wire from the cabinet. I am in the process of getting all the other flats on my stair to sign up to http://hyperoptic.com/ ... only one more place out the six to get to sign up and it's happy fucking days for me :P.

      also.. i can STILL use my BT-wifi/FON login anywhere in the world and it's been 6 months since i left BT and i've used it here in Scotland, in England,in Portugal, Denver,Houston, Amsterdam New Jersey and the Republic of Ireland. it's the gift that keeps on giving as the turds are too lazy to check status more than the initial one :P

    5. Re:Not me by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      I am not sure how much that will help you. Its still on your premiss associated with your device. The prosecutor is going to just say to the judge or jury, "Which is more likely that Bob here singed on to the guest network that is always available to him in an attempt to hide his activities or that someone sat in car outside Bob's house and did all this bad stuff."

      Its not right, its not fair, its certainly not really beyond a reasonable doubt, but I would not want to bet my future on it in a court room.

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  3. Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    With the number of IoT and M2M applications using WiFi continuously rising, that could become a serious problem soon.

    The solution is simple, get rid of the "Idiots of Tomorrow".

  4. Re:Colossal by David_Hart · · Score: 2

    will will increase to more than 115,000 petabytes by 2019, compared to under 30,000 petabytes this year, representing almost a four-fold increase

    10 terabytes would hold all the information stored in the Library of Congress. A single petabyte is a hundred times that.
    Perspective

    Um, that's because the vast majority of the Library of Congress is text information. I'm pretty sure that their collection of cat videos is severely lacking... (grin)

  5. Re: Running kismet on a laptop by TWX · · Score: 2

    I suspect that the FCC will eventually have to step-in. One of the Part 15 rules is about not interfering, and clearly that's not working out so well. I can imagine a day when power levels have to be so low that an AP is basically only good for the room that it's in, or that's the default programming on an AP even if the end user might be able to raise it, and then the process to raise it would require bringing it up in steps, so that the user is encouraged to keep testing as they keep raising the level, so that they stop when they find enough power.

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  6. Hmmph. by smpoole7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The real reason for the cell companies to "offload" data is to ease the load on their networks. OK, I understand that ... and I realize that it could save me money. If I'm in a hotspot, why not use that instead of eating my limited data plan?

    But honestly, Verizon has almost gotten ridiculous with it. Little beg screens ("are you SURE you don't want to connect to wireless?" -- it was a happy day when I figured out how to kill that one), refusing to open Web pages if I'm just beyond the range of a known hotspot, and worse.

    Verizon is VERY aggressive about offloading.

    Given how much it costs to build a new tower site nowadays, I can understand, but don't be fooled: the benefit of offloading is primarily for the cell carrier, and NOT for you. :)

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  7. Re:Ban Microwave Ovens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    No wonder you have a biological intake issue.....a mouth would really help!

  8. Re:Good news everyone! by mrsquid0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, we are not.

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  9. Just wait for the exploit packages by wiredlogic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This whole stupid scheme to have open residential WiFi everywhere is going to blow up in their faces. Sooner or later a script kiddie package will come out that sets up fake APs spoofing all the ISPs login pages to steal credentials and grab sensitive data.

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  10. Re: Running kismet on a laptop by flatulus · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the Part 15 rules is about not interfering, and clearly that's not working out so well.

    I don't believe the FCC cares about Part 15 devices interfering with other Part 15 devices. From the rules:

    CFR 47 Part 15.5

    (b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator.

    (boldface is added for emphasis)

    In other words, a Part 15 device that interferes with another Part 15 device is cool, since Part 15 devices are offered no protection from interference, intentional or unintentional.

    The law is written so that Part 15 devices are not allowed to interfere with licensed devices.

  11. Bad Management by Caviller · · Score: 5, Informative

    I run the campus and dorm WiFi system at the university that i work at. We have many 250 room(500-750 people) residence halls that use around 30 3x3 802.11N dual band (2.4 and 5.8) access points each (we have a total of ~270 APs in 9 halls). The 2.4Ghz band is perfectly usable ALL of the time(at least 1.5Mbps usable data throughput at all times). Our students usually have around 2000-2500 devices on each band (we allow EVERYTHING except bit torrent) with game systems/appleTV/anything....we do not disallow any device as long as it doesn't impact other people.

    Now how do we keep 2.4 usable in an environment like that? We manage the crap out of it. First we only allow channels 1,6,and 11 to be used. This keeps anyone from stepping on two channels at once. We also (and this one helped a lot!) turned the N protocol bandwidth width to 20Mhz instead of 40Mhz. At 20Mhz, you have 3 completely separate channels. When the width is 40Mhz you basically chew up 2 open channels at once.....so all channels are always walking over each other. Although this does decrease raw throughput of a client, it almost doubles the amount of usable connections per radio and helps a lot with the further away users from the AP. We also do 5 minute power and channel tuning where the system keeps all that balanced as usage differs. We also do not allow anything slower then 11Mbs to connect at all. This has a two fold benefit. One being that it makes sure the client/AP stays with the closest one to it and two...and this is the HUGE biggie....it increases the efficiency of the 802.11 time slice distribution. 5.5Mbps requires 10ms per client in radio chat time that the client gets regardless of how much data it is sending or receiving. 2 and 1Mbps requires 20ms! The old 802.11b is horribly inefficient and actually causes less clients to be able to connect to a given AP. Turing of everything but 11Mbps increased AP/client concentrations around 40%. Another thing we do is NOT impose is per connection speed limits. We found this reduces amount of usable connections per AP(about 10%) and slows down everybody for no benefit 802.11 is good at balancing throughput between all clients already. We also force transfer anyone off the 2.4 band that is 5.8 capable. The last thing we do is have alarms for when the system shows very high levels of interference on the 2.4 band. Sometimes this is a bad cordless telephone or something but 90% of the time......it is a stupid microwave that went bad. In dense university living areas, they are EVERYWHERE!! Especially since the students buy the cheapest ones they can find. One bad microwave will kill 2.4 in an entire area.

    Now...all that being said...when people tell me that 2.4 is crowded and slow because it is unlicensed, I tell them no....it's just managed very, very badly. I have been wishing that one day in the future...hopefully soon as i have requested it during the public comment phase of the last few 802.11 standards...that good spectrum management would be added to the WIFI standards to help with this. The best they do now is look around and try not to be on the same channel. I wish there could be some extremely low level protocol where all access points as part of spec, discuss the rf environment and attempt to keep it sane instead of the apartment fun of 100's of APs all blasting at MAX power to try and get it's voice heard over everyone else's voice. Last time i went to a friends apartment, he was complaining his wifi was slow. When i looked at the rf information.....the noise floor was freaking -62dbm. I told him it will never work right in that environment.

    1. Re:Bad Management by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 2

      In our schools, we turned off 802.11g (or lower) support (802.11n or better required) completely. Network utilization and efficiency jumped 30%. We had under 20 devices across the school district that couldn't connect after that.

      We also upped the multicast rate to 22 Mbps. This forces devices to reconnect to closer APs and switch APs when wandering around the buildings.

      Unfortunately, the local cable company has been putting their free WiFi hotspots around the city, with the ones around our schools using directional antennas ... pointed directly at our schools! Plus, we have apartment and townhouse complexes next to most of our secondaries, so our APs can detect 50+ home APs. :(

    2. Re:Bad Management by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I'm surprised you don't have issues with people using Bluetooth, wireless headphones and other devices on 2.4GHz, or setting up their own APs. There was an Apple demo a few years back where they had to ask everyone to turn off AP mode on their phones because they were killing the demo wifi with 200+ networks in a room. People just turn it on and forget to turn it off.

      I don't know how we can ever get devices to really share the 2.4GHz space now. In crowded areas with lots of mixed devices owned by different people no amount of individual management is going to help. Where I live a lot of bandwidth on 2.4GHz is wasted just by old 802.11b and g beacon packets. Routers provided by ISPs, with the TX power turned up to 11 and 802.11b mode enabled in case the customer has an old Nintendo DS or something.

      What we need is a new band just for wifi, heavy regulated and with a new protocol that shares nicely and does away with bandwidth wasting crap like beacons. Much smaller channels and many more of them, non-overlapping, lower bandwidth but with the ability to bond when bandwidth is available and won't kill the base rate for everyone. Some solution to the hidden transmitter problem would be nice too, like maybe a mesh network protocol for reporting conflicts.

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  12. Wifi saturation? by Karmashock · · Score: 3

    Doubtless it is possible but you really need to hammer the network to do that. What is more they're ignoring that the N standard doesn't use 2.4 ghz.

    Been there done that, chumps.

    I manage a few wifi networks that routinely have a couple hundred people on them immediately next to other networks that have a couple hundred people on them next to other networks that have a couple hundred people on them... all right fucking next to each other. The only way these networks could be more on top of each other is if all the users spooned on each other.

    There aren't any issues with it. What I find fucks with wifi is big thick walls. Shocking I know... Oh and microwaves. Guy goes into the rec room to heat up a burrito or something and anyone using the 2.4 ghz networks starts to have issues. I put up amusing signs informing people of the issue.

    Regardless... most new machines are N compatible so... why not use that? I use it because I can. I don't really need the speed difference since the only thing I'd do over wifi would be to browse the internet.

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  13. 5 GHz bands are much quieter by billstewart · · Score: 2

    Almost everybody's on 2.4 GHz, and the bands overlap with each other as well as with your microwave oven. If you can run your Wifi on 5 GHz, and don't have distance problems, it's really what you want.

    Unfortunately, while my Linksys WiFi router can use both frequencies, it can only use one at a time, and I've got a few 2.4GHz-only devices in the house, so I'm stuck with 2.4. Occasionally it gets tempting to switch it to 5 GHz and drag out its dumber predecessor to run 2.4 on. (I bought the newer one because I needed 802.11n to compete with all my neighbors' 802.11n drowning out my wimpy 802.11g system. I was also surprised to find that it didn't support IPv6 sigh.)

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  14. Re: Running kismet on a laptop by adolf · · Score: 2

    Indeed.

    And the only licensees I'm aware of for the 2.4GHZ Part 15 ISM band are HAMs.

    Which are about the friendliest bunch around when it comes to talking about RF, even if they are licensed for tens-of-Watts and you are an unlicensed, must-accept-interference consumer.

  15. Re: Running kismet on a laptop by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2

    Perhaps you could install an antenna on the roof and repeater inside your house

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  16. Re:Where do I send ... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Where do I send ... my bill when my carrier exceeds the cap I imposed on their use of my WiFi hub?

    This is really the whole thing.

    ISP-imposed hotspots (all I've seen) require you to log in to the carrier before you can use them. So if you're a Comcast customer, you log in with your Comcast ID, and you're on the 'net. Whoopie.

    The problem, of course, is that this is just a "foot in the door" to charging you for that usage.

    That's why I, and EFF, say you should set up your own public WiFi hotspots, bypassing those imposed by your ISP.

    I've had a NON-ISP open WiFi hotspot -- with pretty damned good range -- for about 5 years now, and only had one tiny problem with a neighborhood teenager abusing it. Nipped that right in the bud, and I didn't even have to ban her. (In fact I think she was pretty freaked out by getting the .mp3 file that called her by name and politely told her to knock it off. Ghost in the machine.)

  17. Re:Good news everyone! by omnichad · · Score: 2

    So the non-ionizing radiation has started...ionizing?