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NVIDIA Hopes To Sell More Chips By Bringing AI Programming To the Masses

jfruh writes: Artificial intelligence typically requires heavy computing power, which can only help manufacturers of specialized chip manufacturers like NVIDIA. That's why the company is pushing its Digits software, which helps users design and experiment with neural networks. Version 2 of digits moves out of the command line and comes with a GUI interface in an attempt to move interest beyond the current academic market; it also makes programming for multichip configurations possible.

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  1. Re:Chips! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Crunch all you want, we'll make more. Sounds artificially intelligent.

    I am not sure if their strategy will work. Training a neural net requires massive compute resources, usually in the form of GPUs. But once the NN is trained, it doesn't require much computing to use it. For instance, a Go playing NN took 5 days to train, running on high end GPUs, but once trained, could consistently beat Gnu Go (which can consistently beat me) while using far less computing time.

  2. Don't buy based on any promises by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is Nvidia. Don't buy into this based on any promises of what is to come, no matter how reasonable they seem.

    Last summer I bought a Nvidia Tegra Note 7 tablet based on promises that Android 5 (Lollipop) was coming out for it "real soon". They even stated that it was easy to port Lollipop on the Tegra Note 7 since it was basically a stock Android design with little or on deviation from the standard design. That "real soon" slipped to February of 2015 and when February 2015 came and went Nvidia became strangely mute on the subject, ignoring customers' inquiries.

    A claimed Nvidia employee even posted here as an AC that it was a shame what happened to the Tegra Note 7 customers, but explained that the U.S.A. developers wanted to work on the new stuff and the Tegra Note 7 project was shipped overseas, where no one wanted to work on it either (and apparently did not).

    My Tegra Note 7 tablet is the last thing that Nvidia will ever sell me. If you chose to do business with them then I may not be able to talk you out of it, but do so based on what they deliver today, not on promises of things that will never come.

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    1. Re:Don't buy based on any promises by electrosoccertux · · Score: 2

      Last summer I bought a Nvidia Tegra Note 7 tablet based on promises that Android 5 (Lollipop) was coming out for it "real soon". They even stated that it was easy to port Lollipop on the Tegra Note 7 since it was basically a stock Android design with little or on deviation from the standard design. That "real soon" slipped to February of 2015 and when February 2015 came and went Nvidia became strangely mute on the subject, ignoring customers' inquiries.

      What you describe is basically every tablet seller out there save for Google themselves. They save the new versions for their upcoming products, and only after those get put out do they update the old stuff.

      what about their GTX 970 design, top of the line generation that just came out, that has 512MB of VRAM that runs 87.5% slower than the main GDDR5, causing massive hitching and stuttering in any games that use more than 3.5 of the 4GB onboard?

      what's that? you say they patched it?

      yeah, and the company that conceived such a thing to begin with will also be the company to remove the patch in a year's time to get people to upgrade.

  3. Holy Hardware Batman by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

    From TFA there was no pic of the UI, nor any mention of tech specs aside from a lot of nebulous details. From nVidia's website ...

    * https://developer.nvidia.com/d...

    DIGITS DevBox includes:

    * Four TITAN X GPUs with 12GB of memory per GPU
    * 64GB DDR4
    * Asus X99-E WS workstation class motherboard with 4-way PCI-E Gen3 x16 support
    * Core i7-5930K 6 Core 3.5GHz desktop processor
    * Three 3TB SATA 6Gb 3.5â Enterprise Hard Drive in RAID5
    * 512GB PCI-E M.2 SSD cache for RAID
    * 250GB SATA 6Gb Internal SSD
    * 1600W Power Supply Unit
    * Ubuntu 14.04
    * NVIDIA-qualified driver
    * NVIDIA® CUDA® Toolkit 7.0
    * NVIDIA® DIGITSâ SW
    * Caffe, Theano, Torch, BIDMach

    .. holy crap is that a lot of GPU horsepower "just" for AI. Oh look, they are running Ubuntu :-)

    They are really trying to get people on board about how much better / faster their GPU solutions are ...

    * http://www.nvidia.com/object/m...

    The problem is that there are lot of "niche" use cases. If your problem domain maps to the GPU then yeah, mjaor speedup. If not, well, then you're SOL running on "slow" CPUs.

  4. "NVidia Hopes to Sell"... CUDA by LordMyren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NV open sourced CUDA in 2011, but I don't believe there are any other implementations out there. The rest of the world continues adopting OpenCL and now the whole Khronos supergroup is super hyper for Vulkan (NV even giving a solid thumbs up), with Apple and NV being the two rogue vendors pushing proprietary wares (Metal and CUDA). Even with NVidia doing really *really* well in the GPGPU market, even with a really great dev env, the extreme proprietary-ness of CUDA makes it really hard to sell to the alpha techies.

    Cuda has a lot of traction in academic and applied fields, but the technical industry doesn't take it seriously, isn't comfortable saddling themselves to a one-trick-horse offering from NVidia. This ridiculously powerful box, and it's cool software with cool visibility into a neat problem, but it's really a pipeline play, to get you into NVidia's world. For some, going full in on NVidia is ok, but I don't think it's unlike going full in as a MS Developer or iOS developer- you're picking up, putting on the blinders, and all you'll be able to do is sprint towards a fixed, not too far away point.