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Chromecast Gets a Hardwired Ethernet Adapter

Mark Wilson writes: Google's Chromecast has gained quite a following of people looking for a cheap, simple way to stream content to their TVs. Part of the device's appeal is its easy of use and extensibility through the use of apps, but it is reliant on a steady Wi-Fi signal. If this represents a problem in your home, there's now a solution. The new Ethernet Adapter for Chromecast does very much what you would expect — it adds a wired Ethernet port to Google's streaming dongle. This is great news for anyone with a flaky Wi-Fi signal, or those looking to use Chromecast beyond their router's normal range.

133 comments

  1. Popcorn Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Finally, it was always annoying when the movie cuts out when I start making the popcorn...

  2. Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's dat?

    1. Re:Yippie!! by gl4ss · · Score: 0

      it's an usb ethernet dongle.

      like, woah!

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    2. Re:Yippie!! by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      I can hardly wait until they start manufacturing these with a USB Type-C connector for use with my USB Type-C equipped Laptop/Cellphone/Tablet and this is no longer a newsworthy item.

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    3. Re:Yippie!! by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Informative

      it's an usb ethernet dongle.

      True, but it's actually a USB power adapter with a Ethernet port on it. The USB-Ethernet adapter is in the power aadapter and the single USB cable goes to the Chromecast.

      So it's not a dinky adapter dangling from your Chromecast (and slowly unplugging it if your HDMI ports are the wrong orientation), but it accepts Ethernet at the power adapter and asingle cable goes to the Chromecast. Quite elegant a solution, really.

    4. Re:Yippie!! by adolf · · Score: 1, Troll

      it's an usb ethernet dongle.

      like, woah!

      An usb?

      An? I recognize that English can be tricky even for folks born in such countries, but sheeshL

      Again: "an usb"?

      Is there any pronunciation of USB that does elicits an "an"? Or have I been saying U S B wrong all of these years by spelling it out, and should be instead saying "uhsbah"?

      Because Webster calls it \ËOEyü-(ËOE)es-ËbÄ"\, and I can't argue with that. (Fucking /. Unicode ruining linguistics yet again, but the link is good.)

      Say it out-loud: "A USB," vs. "An USB.": (IE, "A yoo-ess-bee," vs "An yoo-ess-bee")

      If the former still sounds more-wrong than the latter, then good luckl with my language!

    5. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So the chromecast supports ethernet of the usb port. Nice planning a head.

      Now will your phone talking to WiFi be able to talk to chromecast, to is the chromecast switch to being to being a WiFi "router" too?

      I have complained to Google earlier with 6 different wifi network segments, all with different routers and CCSID, but sharing same IP range, so routing would not be an issue... Chromecast required all devices talking to be on it's CCSID. So, chrome could not discover chromecast unless on same CCSID.

    6. Re:Yippie!! by adolf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dear AC,

      For all intents and purposes, local Chromecast traffic does not route. It relies on Ethernet broadcast to do its magic (whatever that Ethernet may consist of).

      So, the Chromecast must be on the on the same logical LAN as the rest of your network. Can't/won't/don't want to do that? Learn some iptables magic or naff off (good luck!).

      Every device in this field is similar in this behavior.

    7. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this a big problem for you?

    8. Re:Yippie!! by Kester1964 · · Score: 1

      USB is pronounced Ooosb! An Ooosb!

    9. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, my name is anonymous coward and i pronounce "USB" usbi

    10. Re:Yippie!! by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      Strictly speaking English grammar rules (I see you refer to Webster and I have no idea what American grammar rules are but you used English) state that if it begins with a vowel it should be "an" and if it begins with a consonant it should be "a". Last time I checked U was a vowel so strictly speaking it should be an.

      All that aside I will admit that an USB sounds odd, but it's correct English grammar as taught to me at my school in England when growing up.

    11. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, its a tiny USB powered hub with a USB ethernet adapter built in to it and no extra ports.

    12. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > if it begins with a vowel

      Either your grammar rules book is obviously wrong or it actually says that the pronunciation starts with a vowel.
      Which USB does not, at least not if pronounced "normally".
      You could pronounce it German, but then "an USB" would sound like "anus B", which probably isn't particularly helpful if you want to actually communicate with people.

    13. Re:Yippie!! by dave420 · · Score: 2

      So close. Write the word phonetically, and use that spelling to determine. Yooessbee begins with a consonant, hence 'a' instead of 'an'.

    14. Re:Yippie!! by shitzu · · Score: 2

      I am constantly using chromecast from different wifi (and wired) netorks, there is no need te be on the same wifi network as long as the broadcast traffic reaches the chromecast and your other devices (i.e. they are in the same "ping domain"). For instance at home my chromecast is connected to one wifi network (2.4GHz), my phone connected to another (5GHz, different AP and SSID) and my Plex server is connected with a wire. This all works as a charm.

    15. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y is a consonant? Reall*y*?

    16. Re:Yippie!! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Yes, the rule is if the word starts with a vowel sound, not if it is spelt with a vowel.

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    17. Re:Yippie!! by snsh · · Score: 1

      If Chromecast required all devices to be on the same SSID (CCSID?), then how would wired devices work? They don't have a SSID.

    18. Re:Yippie!! by killkillkill · · Score: 1

      6 different wifi network segments, all with different routers and CCSID

      It sure is a shame when a company blatantly alienates .0001% of the market with the design of their low priced consumer goods.

    19. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just set up my chromecast at my new house last night, and there was a new option available. Now when you set up a chromecast there is a check box to allow nearby devises that are not on the network to control the chromecast. I haven't tested it out but it looks like the solution to your problem.

    20. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "ping domain"

      The word you are looking for is subnet, the devices need to be on the same subnet and/or network.

      Ping domain, sounds like somewhere in China...

    21. Re:Yippie!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      In this case, U == hard Y.

      A unicycle.
      An umbrella.

      This message has been brought to you by Hooked on Phonics.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    22. Re:Yippie!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Y is both. Y was the original trans-gendered member of The Letter People.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    23. Re:Yippie!! by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      Except that you can ping things that are not in your subnet. I think "ping domain" means everything that can be pinged by you. Which maybe means the whole internet minus some computers behind firewalls and NAT routers.

    24. Re:Yippie!! by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      What's sheeshL?

    25. Re:Yippie!! by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Bi-gendered or non-binary, not transgendered! Transgendered would be a consonant transitioning to a vowel.

      "Come and meet the letter people....."

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    26. Re:Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what is really meant, is the local lan where you are able to do ARP requests....

    27. Re:Yippie!! by chris234 · · Score: 1

      If that's a typical home network, the 2 different radios and the ethernet are all one collision domain, so yeah, Chromecast and similar devices will work just fine. If you have separate network segments (think separate IP subnets) then you have issues and need to do gatewaying and other assorted hacks.

    28. Re:Yippie!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Heh! I knew someone would get the reference. I also suspected someone would correct my use of the trans-gendered phrase but I am not so good at remembering which one is which and worrying about it. Bi certainly makes sense. Hermaphroditic would work I think?

      I was kind of shocked that *I* remembered it after all these years. I was a bit older then and had a younger sister so that is where I heard it from. I suppose Schoolhouse Rocks is next on the list.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    29. Re:Yippie!! by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I also suspected someone would correct my use of the trans-gendered phrase but I am not so good at remembering which one is which and worrying about it.

      Dont' worry, no offense taken on my part, when actual transpeople can't remember all the gender-whatever terminology. Especially for the non-binary stuff. Close enough to figure out. I'm one of those who thinks we (transgendered people) shouldn't go postal about terminology use by people who mean well, but just can't keep track of it all.

      Hermaphroditic would work I think?

      Not anymore, the "intersex" community frowns upon the h-word. that would only be used in the past for those who are physically intersexed. The Intersexed folks can be "very" prickly about terminology. Worse than the transcommunity I'd say. Technically I'm also IS, but the visible part of my condition was relatively minor so I don't identify as IS.

      I was kind of shocked that *I* remembered it after all these years. I was a bit older then and had a younger sister so that is where I heard it from.

      The song sticks in you head that's for sure, heard background music in a commercial recently that reminded me of it and I had "the letter people song" in my head all day after that. I think I was maybe 10 or 11 when I first heard it, home sick from school, couldn't find anything good on TV, flipped around the few channels we had and it was on PBS. I actually liked it, it had a bit of an actual storyline, even though I was not in the age group for the show. I may have been high on cough syrup something.

      I suppose Schoolhouse Rocks is next on the list.

      Thank you! That reminds me that I should add "Interplanet Janet" to the spotify playlist for No Man's Sky when it comes out.

    30. Re:Yippie!! by quenda · · Score: 1

      But Americans often drop the consonant, e.g. new is pronounced "noo", whereas a native English speaker says "nyoo".
      So no surprise if someone pronounces it an "oo-ess-bee" port.

    31. Re:Yippie!! by quenda · · Score: 1

      it's an usb ethernet dongle.

      like, woah!

      But its an OTG usb ethernet dongle!
      Yes, people have been doing this for ages, with a Y-adapter and dongle.
      You can get both parts for less than $5 delivered on ebay etc. The only trick is figuring out which ones have the ASIX chip (or, more likely, a clone).

      See https://productforums.google.c...

      This new option is certainly more elegant.

    32. Re:Yippie!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I am nearing the age of sixty. It is funny how it creeps up on you. Anyhow, when I was younger things were just starting to see some publicity where alternative sexual lifestyles or trans-gendered people were the subject. Often those comments and opinions, even on the news, were either outright derogatory or vocally tinged to where the disdain was palpable. I am mixed racially which is, in some areas, worse than being either black or white or native American. Fortunately I stayed on base and then went off to prep school where I lived on campus.

      As an aside, wealthy children can be bigoted bastards. They just phrase it better and can hide it from public view better.

      Whilst at school I developed a close relationship with someone who had confided their sexual preferences to me. I was, I admit, a little alarmed - I did not want to catch the gay or be associated with it because it would reflect poorly on me. At the same time, I knew that they had not changed, they were the same person they always were. Also, it was relatively obvious that they were either gay or just very effeminate and emotional - but keep those in context.

      I have been told that I have "good gayday." I have also been told I must be gay for having said 'gaydar.' To be honest, I may have meandered home with a transsexual woman after a long night at the bar and enjoyed myself but I should not speak out of church I suppose.

      I guess my point is that, since then, I have always had a sort of affinity for those who were socially lower than the normal people. I have made it a point to NOT be overly sympathetic and engage in reverse bigotry. (I can think of no other way to put it.) I treat you like I want to be treated until such time as that social contract is violated.

      I find that I am more comfortable, the people more honest (usually - though I have seen lots of needless drama but I suspect that happens anywhere), and have spent most of my time on the outskirts of the GLBT community. For some reason I am just attracted, again that is the best choice of words, to people who are somehow seen as different or even seen as unacceptable. Maybe it is a conditioning of my youth? I fit in nowhere, I fit in everywhere. Well, until I went into a different room...

      I am not really sure why I shared the story. I guess it fills in some information about me and why I am hell bent on things like equality and consideration of merit instead of attribution due to an inborn trait. I do not want affirmative action, that is telling people that they can not do it on their own and that they have to have help. I will not be the token nigger. I can not.

      Another interesting thing that comes to mind is that I spent 8 years in the Marines (two separate occasions -- got to love that GI Bill) and we had a number of gay people. They were known about. It was even talked about. There were jokes made by everyone - and I mean everyone - and nobody cared because we joked about everyone with all traits. We were a fine group. If a bunch of "ignorant jarheads" can be nonjudgmental enough to not care who is in the dirt beside them and judge based only one their comrade's willingness to stand with them and their ability to do so then why can't an enlightened group manage the same thing? *sighs*

      Anyhow, I often share a story about a gay Marine who was out of uniform and at the bar with me. Someone called him a fagot one too many times. The result was messy and he ended up shirtless and shrilling loudly, "How does it feel to get your ass beat by a fag? Do you like being my bitch now, punk?" Over and over again... All while continuing to beat this poor (surprisingly large) redneck into a puddle. We both spent the rest of the weekend in the brig and nothing came out of it except that and some KP duty. Solidarity... I had nothing to do with it except to laugh my ass off but he was not going to go to the brig alone on my watch. Yay! Captain's Mast!

      The story is best told in a much longer way. I am too lazy to type it all out. I figured I would share some because it seemed the appropriate thing to do.

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    33. Re: Yippie!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phrase you're both looking for is "broadcast domain". Subnets are not necessarily the same as broadcast domain. Although on most home networks they are synonymous.

  3. Cromcast gets ENet Connector Needs Full Android by ZippyTheChicken · · Score: 0

    Google makes Android so why do they release a device that doesn't have the newest and a full version of Android. Its just stupid. Being able to easily install apps means you can add products like Kodi.tv .. SiliconDust and Streaming Apps but it would also attract new developers for their app store. I can buy a $15 Android Stick on Ebay from China and install apps or even root it. But the maker of Android thinks I should be restricted in what I can do... Full Android and a Keyboard with touch pad means you can install word processing apps and you have an extra computer in your home that kids can do homework on, you can do household stuff on, and work from home or work in a hotel room.. or just have a backup computer to order parts to fix your desktop if it goes down.

    1. Re:Cromcast gets ENet Connector Needs Full Android by khellendros1984 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do you need a $35 full Android device if you can already buy a $15 full Android device? The Chromecast does things for me that my other Android devices don't, and that has value for me. Just another Android stick? Meh, I don't need it. If I want something like that, I'll hook my old phone up to TV with MHL and control it over VNC from my newer phone.

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    2. Re:Cromcast gets ENet Connector Needs Full Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I don't want a crap android device from China and the Chromecast is far more useful. Why would I want full android functionality on my tv? Next you'll be complaining that you wished your kitchen sink had the same functionality as your toilet... moron!

  4. I prefer Google TV! by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Informative

    Chromecast all but requires another smart device running (continuously) to control it. You can't control it directly.

    Google TV, on the other hand, AKA "Android TV Sticks", are a full-on Android device, just like your phone or tablet, but without the screen. You control it with something like a mouse/keyboard.

    You can turn off your phone/laptop while using a Google TV. You can browse the Internet on your Google TV, without using anything else to help. You can plug in a keyboard/mouse and use it like a computer! You buy apps on it from Google play, just like any other android device, and it's very compatible!

    I just loved my first TV stick that I bought on Amazon (MK808b) for $35! I just bought an MK809 when my MK808b finally died after 3 or 4 years of daily use, and it has (so far) been a nice upgrade. Faster processor, better wifi reception, more memory/storage. Still runs just fine off the power from the USB port on the side of my TV...

    PS: To control one of these, you want a "flying mouse remote". It's a keyboard that "mouses" by waving it in the air.

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    1. Re:I prefer Google TV! by JDAustin · · Score: 1

      This is why I swapped to Fire TV from chromecast. Aside from casting HBO GO, everything I'd do w/ a chromecast I can do w/ the fire TV Stick and more. More being running Kodi (aka XBMC).

    2. Re:I prefer Google TV! by sunderland56 · · Score: 1

      Chromecast all but requires another smart device running (continuously) to control it. You can't control it directly.

      The Amazon Fire Stick is pretty much identical to the Chromecast (but nicer), and comes with a remote control. For the intended market, the Amazon product is far superior.

      The Chromecast works perfectly well with some apps (e.g. Netflix), but stutters badly on others (e.g. Hulu). I wonder how much of this is a questionable WiFi connection, and how much of it is poor software buffering design? My bet is that a hardwired connection will make Hulu performance better, but not perfect.

    3. Re:I prefer Google TV! by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      I'll be honest: I've never felt like I wanted to be locked into the (much smaller) Amazon ecosystem.

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    4. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are live TV streams where you can essentially leave the device 'tuned' into a channel. But I see your point that the Chromecast's default mode is to display wallpapers.

    5. Re:I prefer Google TV! by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      As already said: I've never felt like I wanted to be locked into the (much smaller) Amazon ecosystem.

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      I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
    6. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I tried out a Chromecast for a week, but it was way to clumsy to use. Have to use your smart phone. Need to pause the video? Turn on smart phone, enter your PIN, push the pause button. Now try that in a dark room because you're watching a movie... Then thirty seconds later the smart phone is locked again.

      Tablets and smartphones are not suitable as a replacement for a basic remote control.

      Got a Roku. More expensive even though it's basically the same thing (but with ethernet). But it does the job a lot nicer. Like uisng your big screen TV for showing you a UI instead of a lame phone app.

    7. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Chromecast all but requires another smart device running (continuously) to control it. You can't control it directly.

      No buts - it requires another device, period.

      Chromecast is one of the least useful of "the sticks", I agree, but really all of the sticks are currently horribly underpowered with fairly poor wifi reception.

      Basically now for $30 + $15 = $45 you can get a slow "stick" device that still requires another device to work, but even when it does the experience kind of sucks. Or you can spend ~$90 for a Roku 3 that is blazingly fast for what it does, has a great remote, full wifi or IR control for other devices, and hundreds of 3rd party apps (not to mention the wifi signal is actually solid).

      Don't underestimate convenience - that extra $45 cost will pay itself off in an hour for many people who actually value their free time and don't feel like fighting with a Chromecast.

    8. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Darinbob · · Score: 3

      The Google, Apple, and Amazon cults aren't worth joining. A good system should be able to play anything.

    9. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      What does the Amazon Fire TV not handle that Chromecast does?

      Honest question, happy user of three Fire TV devices (two boxes and one stick). I'm not aware of anything I'm missing, I have Hulu Plus and Netflix, what else is there?

    10. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1
      Roku is well worth the money

    11. Re:I prefer Google TV! by adolf · · Score: 1

      How about: Tab-casting and device-casting (whatever they are called)?

      Whatever is on my phone/tablet/whatever, or on a Chrome tab on any manner of modern PC, I can send it to my BFT for the amusement (or profit, in a business setting) of others.

      Does the Fire TV do that?

      If so, Fire TV is a win because it includes a real UI and a remote. (Unless it is the Fire TV -stick-, and then things get murky before the discussion even starts.)

      But if not, then.....sheesh. I expect that my cousins and aunts will be able to link to my Chromecast and show their vacation on the BFT, or that a bunch of drunken friends fighting over Youtube videos in a gathering and a great time will be had by all.

      If Fire TV can't do these things, then Chromecast is very social. And Amazon's offerings are de-facto not.

    12. Re:I prefer Google TV! by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      Everything I use puts a pause (and skip, sometimes stop etc etc) button right on the lock screen so I don't need to unlock the phone to pause it. What services were you using that didn't do that?

    13. Re: I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't necessarily disagree with you. The android sticks are a much more capable device, but the flying mouse alone will cost more than a Chromecast. The Chromecast is cheap and simple enough that I can bring one somewhere to use and give it away as gift. I think the whole idea of no UI is a perfect solution. Most people who even would use a computerized media center already have a phone or laptop. Why make them struggle with another interface? Instead with this thing you simply press a button in the corner of your window and send the content to another screen.

      *I should note for common applications (YouTube, Netflix, Plex) the Chromecast will make the connection directly. The controlling device only needs to initiate the connection. Anything else, like streaming your screen live, will put some serious strain on the casting(?) device and the network.

    14. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Google, Apple, and Amazon cults aren't worth joining. A good system should be able to play anything.

      I agree. Matricom G-Box MX2 and Matricom Q are for sure the best option and they do a lot more than just screen mirroring. They are full Android PC's. (they sell on Amazon and Amazon UK as far as I know) The newer Q has faster hardware, but the MX2 has 4 USB vs 2 USB on the Q. The MX2 has Linux available for it but the Q does not. All the rest are weak. Rokus, Fire TV's, generics, etc don't have the flexibility that Matricom devices do. Matricom's stuff gives you full rooted Android with Miracast/DLNA/Airplay etc.. plus you can run all of your Android apps on it. (Even apps that require root, like Titanium Backup, etc). They are like $79 now last I looked. Best value for electronics I think I've ever seen in any category, and no walled gardens.

      At least Chromecast is cheap. For a little more you get a dedicated device Android PC that sits neatly on a flat surface though, not adapters dangling from ports.

      MX2
      Product Dimensions, 7 x 2 x 5 inches

      Q
      Product Dimensions, 4 x 4 x 1.5 inches

      I suggest a keyboard, either wired usb, or wireless with usb dongle, or bluetooth. I have several. The k400 is what I use with my MX2.

    15. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Well, I honestly don't know if it does that... the idea of "casting" whatever is on my phone never seemed to be something I want to do.

      As I sit here and think about it, I still don't care to do that, so frankly, I don't know if it does that.

      What I do know is that the Amazon remote works really well, the voice search is spot on the money, and the box itself is very quick.

      Paid full price for one of them ($99), paid $69 for the second one, and got the stick for $19 when it launched.

      Frankly, I don't use the stick very much, but it does come with a remote and it works fine, just lacking the voice search which is fine for how rarely it gets used.

      Of course, it does help that we're a heavy Amazon Prime house, we watch video mostly on Amazon and we buy our videos and movies with them as well. We do have a Hulu and Netflix sub, but don't use those as much. Probably should drop Netflix, now that I think about it. Hulu is useful for stuff like America's Got Talent, that we watch as a family, but never would want to buy (I'm not even sure you can).

      ---

      BTW, re: YouTube, Amazon has a nice app for that, but frankly I usually turn the HTPC on that is on the big TV. Why? Better overall experience, and having a keyboard to type on makes it nice. Plus sometimes I surf the web from the couch. :)

      The one app that is not on Amazon is Vudu, and we don't use it much. We started a collection there a year or two ago, but stopped when we decided to go all in on Amazon. Vudu did have a great offer to convert DVD and BR to digital for as little as $1 per movie, that got us about 300 or so movies in that collection, and I bought a few of their sales and deals, but we often forget it is there. So much to watch, so little time. :)

      I will say that ease of use and simple interface are strong benefits of the Amazon Fire TV, but having not used a Chromecast, I have no idea how it compares.

    16. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how hard is it to pick up a cheap $20 prepaid phone, skip activating cell service on it, and connect it to the wifi network in your house for use as a "dedicated" remote for that purpose?

    17. Re:I prefer Google TV! by adolf · · Score: 1

      If you have an HTPC on your BFT, then why do you care? Just run Kodi or Plex or whatever and be done with it.

      Me, I have plenty of old PCs around, but sadly none are up for modern HTPC duty.

      I use casting to put my VPN-connected phone (which for all intents and purposes is now in the UK, because again VPN) into a state whereby I can watch the BBC freely. On the BFT. With a $23-$20(rebate-ish) Chromecast.

      ==win, IMHO. YMMV.

    18. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      I had to look up what Kodi was, never heard of it before...

      It appears to be mostly designed for people who have collections of movies stored locally, or on a NAS. If I'm missing something, let me know, but that is what I saw.

      I don't have a local media library, my HTPC is only for the web, YouTube, etc. There are also some things that can be watched for free online, but only with a PC. For example, we watch Shark Tank on ABC.com for free, we just have to wait one week after it airs. Otherwise we have to pay $3 per episode to buy them via Amazon.

      You can't watch them for free on a "device" like a Fire TV or a PS4, but you can on your PC, that is why it is there.

      It was, I think, a decent deal. Bought it a few months ago, it is a refurbished Acer minitower, Core i5 Haswell CPU with 4 GB of RAM and a 1TB HD, $309 I think it cost, plus tax. Uses the built in Intel video, but that's fine for that purpose, I don't play games with it, just browse the web and watch videos and it does both perfectly.

    19. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Don't underestimate convenience - that extra $45 cost will pay itself off in an hour for many people who actually value their free time and don't feel like fighting with a Chromecast.

      This is worth quoting...

      People who like to tinker with technology often don't see this as a "cost", but the reality is your average person just wants stuff to work.

      I used to use the Roku 3, we had 2 of them, one for the adult's TV and one for the kid's. Fast, dependable, always work... The only reason we replaced them was because we bought a pair of Amazon Fire TVs, and for people who live in the Amazon ecosystem, nothing is better than those.

      But if other services are your thing, by all means, get a Roku 3 and be happy with it.

    20. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      While that is a nice idea, I suspect that the average customer doesn't actually want a hundred different sources of movies...

      Apple and Amazon seem to have done a decent enough job with their players. What they lack in broad video support they make up for in ease of use...

      A lot of the suggestions and ideas tossed out are way beyond what most people will ever do.

    21. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Matricom's stuff gives you full rooted Android with Miracast/DLNA/Airplay etc.. plus you can run all of your Android apps on it.

      Given the mess that is Windows and malware, the average customer really shouldn't have, doesn't need, and won't use a "fully rooted" device.

      Locked devices are a PITA for techies, but for average customers, they are a good thing.

      The suggestions you made are nice ideas for people who are already technical in nature, but even then they are overkill.

      I'm one of those people, I have a dozen computers in my home of various types, my home is wired for ethernet, I love techie stuff.

      You know what? I use a Fire TV for watching TV, because it just works. It is so much easier to use than the complicated solutions, and it is by far good enough to cover almost everything that is needed. The wife and kids use it and love it. I do have a HTPC on the main TV and I'll turn it on from time to time, but no one else in my house would.

      Normal people just don't do that, and aren't going to start tomorrow. :)

    22. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      You still have to see the screen to press it.

      A real remote with real buttons doesn't require this.

      For watching TV and movies in the dark, nothing beats a remote with physical buttons.

    23. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    24. Re: I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me it's much easier to use phone/tablet as A remote, especially when it's dark. just like reading a ebook is much easier in a dark compared to printed copy.

    25. Re:I prefer Google TV! by nogginthenog · · Score: 1

      Most of the time you are not casting from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast. Instead the tablet is a glorified remote control. The tablet instructs the Chromecast to start playing a Netflix movie. Once the media starts playing the tablet does nothing (you can switch it off if you really want). I actually prefer this to a remote. It's much easier to flick through Netflix movies or my Plex collection on a tablet than using a remote.

    26. Re:I prefer Google TV! by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Well then I guess Chromecast isn't for you. As you are not representative of the entire rest of the world (shock! horror!), it's safe to say your opinion carries little weight when discussing the virtues of using a Chromecast in general.

    27. Re:I prefer Google TV! by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      even more perfect, a remote with glow-in-the-dark buttons, so even in the dark you can still find it and use it.

    28. Re:I prefer Google TV! by shitzu · · Score: 1

      Chromecast all but requires another smart device running (continuously) to control it.

      No, it does not. You start the streaming from a smart device, but it does not need to be switched on after that. The smart device is essentially a glorified remote.

      The *server* from where it streams, must be on (wether in the cloud or local), but that is a different ballgame and is also true on most sticks unless you copy the files to the actual stick's local storage.

    29. Re:I prefer Google TV! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Do they make ones that support using your TV's remote control? I have a Raspberry Pi running XMBC that supports CEC, which basically means that keypresses on the main TV remote are passed through to it (except for things like power and source buttons). That way I only ever need one remote for everything.

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    30. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It appears to be mostly designed for people who have collections of movies stored locally, or on a NAS. If I'm missing something, let me know, but that is what I saw.

      In that case, my local system must be in the exabyte size (at least). And that's just counting all the stuff in the "Youtube" folder.

      Yeah, you missed something. 80% of Kodi is add-ons. Plugins are an integrated part, at the bottom of each section (Video, Music,...) you can select "add-ons", and choose which ones to install. Youtube, Twitch, NASA, local TV, and tons of others.

    31. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      Yes, Kodi is primarily targeted for those who put their movie collections on a LAN server. It is also very nice for playing your music collection.

      There are plugins for KODI, such as YouTube, Vimeo, and others, that provide a nice way to stream internet video from a wide variety of places, as well as internet radio plugins. Plugins for the network tv shows that are streamed free exist, so you can watch Shark Tank episodes. The performance of those plugins varies, but there are a lot to choose from and can provide and entertaining browse on occasion.

      Best thing.... its free. So you can try it with no risk.

    32. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      I have and use both devices. FireTV is best for sitting back and watching Movies, etc. I like the Chromecast better when I am 'surfing' around youtube or bouncing back and forth between ESPN3 streams, as you can find the next up item on your tablet whilst the existing video is playing. It is particularly nice when exploring music videos on Youtube.

      The Chromecast tab-casting features are nice in the kitchen, where my wife will pull up a recipe on her laptop and show it on the kitchen TV. FireTV casting features are clumsy to get started.

      You can load Kodi on the FireTV. If I could only have one, I'd have to keep the FTV.

    33. Re:I prefer Google TV! by RealGene · · Score: 1

      I installed Cyanogenmod on my old Kindle Fire, and use it as my dedicated 'Chromecast remote'. No PIN, no locking. It is well suited to this task. I also run an app that simulates my TV's remote so I can adjust audio, etc.

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    34. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Matricom's stuff gives you full rooted Android with Miracast/DLNA/Airplay etc.. plus you can run all of your Android apps on it.

      Given the mess that is Windows and malware, the average customer really shouldn't have, doesn't need, and won't use a "fully rooted" device.

      Locked devices are a PITA for techies, but for average customers, they are a good thing.

      The suggestions you made are nice ideas for people who are already technical in nature, but even then they are overkill.

      I'm one of those people, I have a dozen computers in my home of various types, my home is wired for ethernet, I love techie stuff.

      You know what? I use a Fire TV for watching TV, because it just works. It is so much easier to use than the complicated solutions, and it is by far good enough to cover almost everything that is needed. The wife and kids use it and love it. I do have a HTPC on the main TV and I'll turn it on from time to time, but no one else in my house would.

      Normal people just don't do that, and aren't going to start tomorrow. :)

      You should apply some of your uber techie-ness to learn how to quote on slashdot.

    35. Re:I prefer Google TV! by swillden · · Score: 1

      You still have to see the screen to press it.

      And you can't see your backlit phone screen in a darkened room? I could see people complaining that the typical phone screen is too bright, but not too dim.

      A real remote with real buttons doesn't require this.

      Unless the buttons are lit, a real remote is worse than a phone. I suppose some people spend enough time with the remote that they can operate it without being able to see it, but for my once-a-week (or less) TV watching, a phone screen is far superior to most remotes.

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    36. Re:I prefer Google TV! by swillden · · Score: 1

      Chromecast all but requires another smart device running (continuously) to control it.

      No, it does not. You start the streaming from a smart device, but it does not need to be switched on after that.

      Depends on what you're casting. If you're casting something from your device screen then your device has to remain connected. If you're using one of the services that is directly supported by Chromecast then the smart device is just a remote -- in some cases a really cool one, though. If you use Google Movies most of the flicks are annotated so that your smart device shows you information about the music, the actors, etc. I've grown to love that feature.

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    37. Re:I prefer Google TV! by LazyBoot · · Score: 1

      My chromecast lets me use the play/pause button on my TV remote.

    38. Re:I prefer Google TV! by dave420 · · Score: 1

      The Chromecast can be used for different things, though. It's not really supposed to be an application host, but a thing on which to play media, like an endpoint. The way I use it is if I'm using my phone to watch a video on YouTube or Netflix, and I walk into the living room, I press "cast", select my TV, and it continues playing on the TV. Same with music. I can also stop watching something on my TV and take it with me on my phone. Chromecast is essentially a way to get some media from your phone or computer onto a different screen, not a device you sit down and interact with. It is instructed by software, not people.

      They're also ridiculously portable. As I was about to go on holiday, I unplugged my Chromecast from our TV (simple - just unplug from the HDMI and USB), and put it in my bag. When I got to the holiday apartment, I just plugged it into the HDMI port of the TV, and I could stream all my content directly to it, using the phone as a remote. It was a very seamless experience, and was incredibly useful. Lugging a Roku 3 with remote, cables and power brick around wouldn't have been anywhere as easy.

      I guess you want a media centre, which Chromecast isn't, and has never pretended to be.

    39. Re:I prefer Google TV! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that's good to know.

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    40. Re:I prefer Google TV! by mujadaddy · · Score: 1

      It appears to be mostly designed for people who have collections of movies stored locally, or on a NAS. If I'm missing something, let me know, but that is what I saw.

      On the contrary, it is mostly designed to install additional 3rd party "channels" by which you can stream anything from any of the various quasi-legal sources across the entire internet, including live news & sports.

      The local network file playback is merely a small subset of what can be done with the right add-on to Kodi.

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    41. Re:I prefer Google TV! by shitzu · · Score: 1

      When casting a screen you have essentially the controller and the stream server running on the same device. As I said the stream server must be constantly running - but that is also true with every other streaming media player device. The controller does not need to be running.

    42. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried out a Chromecast for a week, but it was way to clumsy to use. Have to use your smart phone. Need to pause the video? Turn on smart phone, enter your PIN, push the pause button. Now try that in a dark room because you're watching a movie... Then thirty seconds later the smart phone is locked again.

      Tablets and smartphones are not suitable as a replacement for a basic remote control.

      Got a Roku. More expensive even though it's basically the same thing (but with ethernet). But it does the job a lot nicer. Like uisng your big screen TV for showing you a UI instead of a lame phone app.

      Good God, you are a moron. Back to your horse and buggy, modern life must be so overwhelming for you.

      Some things simply didn't need to be "improved". Give me a real remote and a built-in Ethernet connection anyday like my WDTV Live has.

      In fact what is with all this WiFi only shit? Recently I had a hell of a time finding a inkjet printer with a built in print-server that wasn't WiFi only, how many cents does it really save them not soldering a RJ-45 jack onto the board? It's really silly to use WiFi for a printer that is in the same room as most of my computers and buying a Ethernet-to-USB dongle is a big step backwards.

    43. Re:I prefer Google TV! by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Apple TV can accept any video stream coming at it using iTunes and transcoding or using airplay mirroring

      Chromecast can mirror anything you want. Android TV sticks can run a variety of player apps that take some of the most common video sources(not to mention more obscure ones!).

      Amazon FireTV can also use Plex and other playback apps.

      These systems *can* play anything. AppleTV and Chromecast both need an external device, but they can play anything once they're set up.

      There are good reasons not to use AppleTV or a Chromecast, but not being able to view your content isn't one of them.

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    44. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for $140 I have a real linux PC with an OK gpu that uses 20W full load, has gb ethernet, runs xbmc, emulators, and streams Steam from the gaming pc. Why would anyone play with stupid android toys

    45. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the reply...

      That is what it looked like... for my needs, it is just something else to keep track of, but it is nice that it exists for those who can use it. :)

    46. Re:I prefer Google TV! by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      And you can't see your backlit phone screen in a darkened room? I could see people complaining that the typical phone screen is too bright, but not too dim.

      Sure I can, but you missed the point... I don't WANT to see it, I want to feel it.

      Touch screens are not the solution to everything. :)

    47. Re:I prefer Google TV! by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

      I can play anything with plex and chromecast...

    48. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS: To control one of these, you want a "flying mouse remote". It's a keyboard that "mouses" by waving it in the air.

      I use the Logitech K400 and highly recommend it. It's much cheaper than a flying mouse, works comfortably on your lap without tiring your arm, and has excellent battery life.

    49. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      To play netflix when I tried the Chromecast I used the netflix app, it had no special buttons on the lock screen; the youtube app did not have special buttons on the lock screen. The only Chromecast interface was a "cast" button in some applications. Maybe there's some application you can find somewhere that does something better, maybe you can root the phone, maybe the Chromecast app got better, but by default this was not a great interface.

    50. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I just got the Roku. Very easy to use. Add in lots of obscure channels if you want. Search for movies across all apps so you can pick the free one (probably handy but I never really leave netflix). Mostly the same thing as Apple TV, Amazon Fire, and Nexus Player, but those used to be lacking in apps until relatively recently and they push their own services heavily (especially with Amazon Fire). Really the only reason to use one of the others over Roku is if you're already invested in their ecosystem (have an iTunes collection, have Amazon Prime, etc).

    51. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS: To control one of these, you want a "flying mouse remote". It's a keyboard that "mouses" by waving it in the air.

      I didn't know that was a thing. It sounds like a neat idea that would be absolutely terrible to control, but I haven't used one so I wouldn't know.

      A while back I picked up one of these compact wireless keyboards with built in trackball for this sort of application. Would recommend.

    52. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chromecast can not play anything, once it's set up. Videos on your computer will not fully work sometimes with chromecast. You can play a video file in Chrome and cast it that way, but Chrome can't handle some file types, etc properly.

    53. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the mess that is Windows and malware, the average customer really shouldn't have, doesn't need, and won't use a "fully rooted" device.

      You attempt to speak for a lot of "average customers" here. Straight up you do not know what you are talking about. A rooted device simply means full device access and control. How this works for these "average customers" that you speak of, is your device will run way more apps from the Play Store. It doesn't mean anything special. It requires no extra technical prowess or super genius powers. You will simply be able to download Titanium Backup (and MANY other apps) from the Play Store and use them too. Why would anybody do this? Functionality obviously. I think Fire TV has root available for it but Amazon doesn't ship it rooted. Not sure if they block it because I wouldn't buy a Fire TV under any circumstances. I'm not stupid.

      The suggestions you made are nice ideas for people who are already technical in nature, but even then they are overkill.

      Simply - you are able to install and run ALL of the apps on the Play Store, even the MANY that require your device to have FULL ROOT access. Matricom provides you this, Amazon does not. Roku is similarly stupid and also sucks. A rooted device is not some whopping technical overkill ordeal.

      Fire TV sucks ass. That's non-technical enough to understand right? Why would I buy a Fire TV when the MX2 and Q let me use WAY WAY WAY more apps, including Titanium Backup? That means you can make a backup of your device on a thumb drive etc. I can also put Linux on my MX2 if I want to. It is still under warranty if I do so. This is how Matricom has kept their customers happy for years now, even before it seemed like a lucrative market for large multi-market corporations like Amazon to directly enter.

      I'm one of those people, I have a dozen computers in my home of various types, my home is wired for ethernet, I love techie stuff.

      You do not seem very tech savvy to me, I assure you. As the other AC said, learn how to quote on slashdot too. A dozen purchases doesn't "wired for ethernet" could simply imply you work at McDonalds and have for years. I am certain my tech knowledge and experience vastly exceeds yours.

      You know what? I use a Fire TV for watching TV, because it just works. It is so much easier to use than the complicated solutions, and it is by far good enough to cover almost everything that is needed. The wife and kids use it and love it.

      Are you suggesting that if they had a Matricom MX2 or Q they wouldn't enjoy it? Have you ever used one? Have you ever considered that since they have more functionality they would be EVEN MORE ENJOYABLE than the Fire TV? You mention a nice wife and kids story but neglect to actually detail what the wife and kids thought about their experience with the MX2 or Q vs the Fire TV. The kids would be like Fire TV sucks dad, I assure you. The wife may not want to rustle your jimmies which would could damage your fragile ego. Many young kids use the Matricom devices and other Android devices. I've seen 3 year olds playing games on Android. It is not this "complicated solution" you allude to.

      I do have a HTPC on the main TV and I'll turn it on from time to time, but no one else in my house would. Normal people just don't do that, and aren't going to start tomorrow.

      If you weren't such a dick and had a Matricom MX2 or Q (which are full featured HTPC's) then other people in your house *would* use an HTPC. Your Fire TV boner would go away immediately. But you are far too smart to learn anything right. Maybe you could click on over to Amazon and look at the Matricom MX2 and Q reviews? You will be surprised, I guess, to find people actually have been buying Matricom's stuff for years before there even was a Fire TV. You can read many reviews on tech sites and Amazon reviews and then maybe re-evaluate if they are

    54. Re:I prefer Google TV! by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      As already said: I've never felt like I wanted to be locked into the (much smaller) Amazon ecosystem.

      Roku 2 or Roku 3 are both better choices then Amazon's product. More cross-platform with Amazon/Google/Netflix and more.

      Only thing I dislike is that there is no way to pair bluetooth headphones to the device. Instead, the only viable option is to hook up regular wired headphones to the Roku 3 remote. (Which does a very good job, but it's not completely cordless.)

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    55. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      And with that you can't play (legal) 1080p video to a TV... which is ALL I want to do, and without any effort.

      A Roku (or many other devices, including PS3/PS4, many TVs and BDs) takes 10 minutes to set up and you are able to watch pretty much any movie or TV show you could think up via Netflix, VUDU, Amazon, Hulu, etc. No way your "$140 real linux PC" was at that point after a couple of hours (and probably never). Either way not worth the effort - I have a "real PC" (boots whatever I want) that cost a lot more than $140, but that doesn't mean I need to go through the pain of trying to watch a new release movie on my living room TV with it...

    56. Re:I prefer Google TV! by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know exactly how the Chromecast works and its advantages and disadvantages... I have developed streaming software for it and many other devices.

      If you want to have an ultra-portable device for traveling it has potential, but is not nearly as convenient as you describe for first time setup. When you move it to a different AP you have to go through the whole process to set it up again (though it does remember a few after you have done it). And if you are in, say, a hotel room with a walled garden sign up you are screwed, and need to bring your own wireless AP to set up the connection.

      Not to mention it has a pretty anemic processor and can *barely* stream/decode 1080p content.

      But anyway, I agree that Chromecast is a very different beast than something like a Roku. My point was if you want a device to plug into WIRED ETHERNET (the point of this article!) for streaming, it's very likely in a fixed location where portability is not an issue, and there are such better options for fixed-location streaming devices than Chromecast. Ie. the hardwired Chromecast adaptor is a pretty niche product.

  5. cable modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well given that most of us end up with the cable modem next to the TV, and the chromecast is plugged into the TV, it sort of makes sense to have Ethernet on a chromecast. In my case a 3ft cable would be more than enough to reach.

    1. Re:cable modem by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Well given that most of us end up with the cable modem next to the TV,

      WTF?

      In many countries, there is no such thing as cable. In others cable is limited to a few blocks of a few cities. America is not the whole world.

      Meanwhile, my Chromecast has become useless. Not sure whether it is sabotage by Samsung or blunders by Google, or maybe ineptly implemented copyright protection: I can use the (Samsung) phone to point the Chromecast at Youtube, but as soon as I actually try to watch a video, connection is lost!

      It was not like that a few months ago (we loaned the Chromecas to a neighbour for a few months).

      I dont watch much on TV, cos it is much easier to use a desktop computer anyway, and I never watch American films, but occasionally it is a family activity. These days far less frequently as the providers seem not to understand that viewers get bored of strugging to view crap.

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    2. Re:cable modem by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      /s/cable/DSL, if you wish.
      In my country cable is fairly uncommon but does exist. Sometimes a row of public housing has it, or a city block because there were a trend of installing cable in the 80s or whenever ; else by large most every housing has a phone line and at least one antenna connector on the wall to plug a TV in.

      There no consistency in where you will find phone plugs in the home (if phone line was installed 40 years ago in a 100 year old house for instance), so the DSL modem (which contains a router, wifi and ethernet switch if not more) may be located damn anywhere but it's common anyway to have it next to the TV.
      I guess that millions people run some consumer electronic device over wifi whereas a short ethernet cable would do it, out of ignorance or lack of care. Perhaps in some case two boxes of consumer shit, one stacked on top of the other communicate in wifi. That's a bit ridiculous as the latency is a bit worse and it's a waste of 2.4GHz spectrum.

    3. Re:cable modem by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      No cable? Just wifi for your broadband connection? I can see that in countries that have yet to build a physical infrastructure, but I find it hard to believe countries in Europe have no cable, coaxial, phone, fiber cable, or otherwise.

    4. Re:cable modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but those other things have less reason to be next to the TV.

    5. Re:cable modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike Cable (transporting TV signals), the others are not usually found behind the TV.

      My DSL goes into the bedroom (where my computer is). My TV is in the living room. My brother's goes into his storage room, and there is enough solid walls between that and the TV room that he had to give up getting wireless to work. So he ended up pulling several CAT5e cables over the ceiling (both TV, Bluray and sat receiver likes to have an internet connection).

  6. Good. by adolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is wonderful. The Chromecast's 2.4GHz 802.11n tops out at 72Mbps -- barely better than 802.11g. And while it is begrudgingly slogging in that 72Mbps data, it also is hogging timeslots from devices that could be at ~150 or ~300Mbps if the channel weren't full.

    I couldn't reliably stream HD video from the Chromecast app on my Samsung S5 to the Chromecast on 802.11g*. Frames were dropped frequently enough to be a real usability problem, and various disconnects happened enough to make it useless.

    I expect that this new adapter will solve the problems with the device that I was experiencing. (Not that it owes me much: I paid $23, shipped, for it on Black Friday, and it came with $20 of Play Store credit that I surely would've used sooner or later anyway.)

    *: Incidentally (yes, really incidental) I moved the wireless network that my Chromecast and my phone use from 802.11g to 2.4GHz 802.11n this very afternoon. The streaming of BBC iPlayer via a VPN got a lot better: It didn't freeze or outright stall. It's still a bit rough, though. The phone syncs at 144Mbps, and the Chromecast can't go more than 72. I'd love to say that bandwidth shouldn't be a problem in these modern enlightened times, but apparently it is.

    **: As an unreferenced footnote, fixed devices such as Chromecast should always have a hardwired option. Every other*** fixed device on my network is hard-wired; why should the Chromecast not be? I've never carried the Chromecast between TVs, although it's easy enough to do so.

    ***: Except for the Wii, because that costs extra and its wireless burden is not all that burdensome.

    ****: The other option I was exploring today was setting up a dedicated access point just for the Chromecast. I've got the hardware, and a bit of room on the outskirts of the ISM band, but fuuuuuu.

    *****: TL;DR shut up and take my money

    1. Re:Good. by powerlinekid · · Score: 1

      **: As an unreferenced footnote, fixed devices such as Chromecast should always have a hardwired option. Every other*** fixed device on my network is hard-wired; why should the Chromecast not be? I've never carried the Chromecast between TVs, although it's easy enough to do so.

      We move ours all the time and don't have ethernet in most rooms of the house. I'd rather ethernet be optional to keep the footprint smaller.

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    2. Re:Good. by adolf · · Score: 1

      Did you read what you quoted, or were you just feeling disagreeable even though we already agree about that?

      Srsly.

    3. Re:Good. by williamyf · · Score: 1

      ****: The other option I was exploring today was setting up a dedicated access point just for the Chromecast. I've got the hardware, and a bit of room on the outskirts of the ISM band, but fuuuuuu.

      Exactly This, While I live in Venezuela, my chromecast thinks it is in Japan, and is happily using chanel 14 (sadly in b mode) with no incidents on my WRT-54G with DD-WRT. Easy peasy.

      While I have the ductery and chops to string a CAT3/5 cable to the TV, I do not feel like it...

      The Macbook is using chan 1, but will be wired, not because of BW (mind you, my ADSL is 3Mbps, 10Mbps is the top the telco will give, evein in their (experimental) FTTH). the macbook will be wired because of apple's wifi problems....

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  7. Nexus Player? by Improv · · Score: 1

    I don't recall what ports the Nexus Player has - anyone know if this will work with one of those?

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    1. Re:Nexus Player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      you can use a normal Micro-USB OTG Ethernet adapter with a nexus player, nothing special since it has a dedicated power port.

  8. Whath's the need? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Does anybody buy those things?
    Like, really?

    I just play my media through one of the several devices most of us already have plugged in in our TVs....

    1. Re:Whath's the need? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Chromecast sticks are useful in the office where you have a wall mounted TV and you want to display your laptop screen on it. No need to fiddle with the HDMI cable (or DVI -> HDMI, or VGA -> HDMI, or DP -> HDMI). They're also cheap enough that you can carry one "just in case".

      Heck, at $35, they're cheaper then some A/V cables...

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  9. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not racist if he's an African-American, I guess.

  10. Secure by Th0th · · Score: 1

    Actually, I'm going to get one of these.... not for any of the reasons mentioned above, but because the native chromecast does not support WPA2 enterpise. For this reason, I had to add a WPA2 PSK AP to my network just for the chromecast. A wired connection would preclude this work around.

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    1. Re:Secure by ledow · · Score: 1

      Is it 5GHz yet?

  11. Re:Who cares? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    I'd take a single rape over a lifetime of slavery any day...although that would qualify as "the worst day of my life" lol

  12. No PoE by scsirob · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be nice if this was a PoE dongle?

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    1. Re:No PoE by Rob+Lister · · Score: 1

      It would be nice if all routers were PoE capable too! I suppose PoE injectors are pretty cheap though. It would be nice for some low current devices like Roku or Chromecast but there's already a power strip *right there* so ... why bother. There's just not enough call for it.

  13. Hotel solution? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    My first thought was that this might fix all those MAC gymnastics needed to get Chromecast working on in a hotel room - at least cheaper than bringing a second router/AP to plug into the hardwired outlet..

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  14. Play anything? by sjbe · · Score: 2

    The Google, Apple, and Amazon cults aren't worth joining. A good system should be able to play anything.

    I agree in principle. So where is this system that can play anything? Or do you mean to say there are no good systems?

    1. Re:Play anything? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Roku 2 or Roku 3. Natch.

      Talks to the Amazon Prime ecosystem, talks to the Google Play ecosystem, talks to Netflix, and dozens of other ecosystems.

      If you could still pair bluetooth headphones to the Roku itself, I'd give it a 5/5.

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  15. PoE by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    It would be real nice if Chromecast supported Power over Ethernet with the hardwired port.

    1. Re:PoE by Agripa · · Score: 1

      It would be but the official PoE standards, 802.3af or 802.3at, are not trivial to implement and consumer PoE ports are not common so it would be a wasted capability which just raises the cost for most consumers. If they used simpler passive PoE, then it would result in more support costs.

  16. Any chance they'll do this for Chromebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are several times I had thought of getting a Chromebook, but the hangup has always been the lack of an Ethernet connector. Now that the silly Chromecast dongle is getting Ethernet, maybe Chromebooks will too.

  17. Yes! But where is the remote? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes! The lack of a remote really is the main issue for us. Why do we need to have any other device near the TV at all?

    Also where is the remote and minimal browser to get passed stupid hotel logins screens?

    Mpeg2 and xvid/mp4 support? Sucks to need a Plex Server to transcode all that content.

    Oddly, the chromecast wifi is the only device that has been working in our living room. Never stutters. No buffering after the playback begins.

    A Roku3 wifi connected, but stalls about 10 times in 2 hrs.

    A USB wifi dongle added to a WD TV Live HD barely connects - stutters terribly - so bad as to be useless - like every 10 seconds. Plus it gets HOT!

    Guess I need an amazon fire stick?

    Really I just need to add a Ubiquiti AP to the network. After over 1,000 wifi deployments around the world, I know how cheap/great these are compared to any home wifi-router. $89 makes all these sorts of wifi issues go away.

  18. Need better remotes with two way communication by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Some things simply didn't need to be "improved". Give me a real remote and a built-in Ethernet connection anyday like my WDTV Live has.

    It is true that some things don't need improvement but remote controls are not on that list. I should NOT have to own or use a different and usually crappy remote for every device. I should NOT have to have a universal remote which has no way to determine the state of the device it is controlling.

    Device manufacturers need to get together and come up with a standard for remotes that includes TWO WAY communication (to and from the remote) from every device AND the devices need to be able to talk to each other AND they need to use RF instead of IR in most cases. Yes this will be more expensive and I'm fine with that. I have a Logitech Harmony and it's not bad but ultimately it fails because it has no way to query the devices for their state so it gets confused rather often. Every stupid DVD player and TV has just an IR receiver but no transmitter which is inexcusable in 2015. It's not hard and not terribly expensive so I fail to understand why this hasn't happened yet.

  19. Tactile feedback matters by sjbe · · Score: 1

    And you can't see your backlit phone screen in a darkened room?

    He's saying that there is no tactile feedback so you have to actually look at the touchscreen to use it. Otherwise you have no idea what "button" you are pressing. It's one of the serious problems with touchscreen interfaces in general. My car has a touchscreen GPS. Since it lacks buttons you have to take your eyes off the road to use it while driving which is dangerous. However I have physical buttons for my radio so I can change channels without looking. That's a non-trivial advantage of physical buttons.

    Unless the buttons are lit, a real remote is worse than a phone.

    No it is not. I know exactly where the buttons are on my remotes by touch even with the lights off. Having back-lit buttons is helpful but if you are familiar with the remote it isn't actually necessary. Furthermore since there is no tactile feedback from the phone you have to take your eyes off the screen to use its virtual "buttons" whereas you do not with a remote that has physical buttons.

    The problem with most remotes is that they communicate one way and so they have no idea what the state of the device they are controlling is in. It is LONG past due that remotes should be able to query the state of the device(s) they are controlling. Until that happens all remotes are and will remain shit.

  20. Out of Stock! by LightStruk · · Score: 2

    That didn't take long. It's already sold out.

  21. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, ... It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups."

    Sherman's march to the sea continues.

  22. This or 5Ghz by TripWire · · Score: 0

    Cool.

    I was really waiting for 5Ghz radio support, but this will do. 2.4Ghz is so broken around here I need to have an AP within 50cm of the chromecast for it to work reliably, but if I move it there 5Ghz goes to shit in the main bedroom... go figure

  23. Reminds me of South Park's Banker guy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's just put this item up for sale ... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND it's GONE.....