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Google Accidentally Reveals Data On 'Right To Be Forgotten' Requests

Colin Castro points out an article from The Guardian, who noticed that Google's recent transparency report contained more data than intended. When perusing the source code, they found data about who was making requests for Google to take down links under the "right to be forgotten" law. The data they found covers 75% of all requests made so far. Less than 5% of nearly 220,000 individual requests made to Google to selectively remove links to online information concern criminals, politicians and high-profile public figures, the Guardian has learned, with more than 95% of requests coming from everyday members of the public. ... Of 218,320 requests to remove links between 29 May 2014 and 23 March 2015, 101,461 (46%) have been successfully delisted on individual name searches. Of these, 99,569 involve "private or personal information." Only 1,892 requests – less than 1% of the overall total – were successful for the four remaining issue types identified within Google’s source code: "serious crime" (728 requests), "public figure" (454), "political" (534) or "child protection" (176) – presumably because they concern victims, incidental witnesses, spent convictions, or the private lives of public persons.

51 comments

  1. Their slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their motto "don't be evil" has a right to be forgotten

    1. Re:Their slogan by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      They could change their motto to "Google remembers" but I think Pepperidge Farm already has that one taken.

    2. Re:Their slogan by sycodon · · Score: 1

      And they are supposed to be some of the smartest people around.

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  2. Not that this will reduce the fuss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The haters will continue to hate.

  3. Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by Virtucon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Old Max Mosley won't be able to run and hide, just try and have his minions edit his past deeds away.

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    1. Re:Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's that love of pernicious gossip and armchair vigilantism again. Nothing as much fun for the average cit as to try and hurt someone at no risk to themselves. Most are just as bad as the people they so enjoy ostracizing. A significant proportion are worse.

    2. Re:Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Why is he fighting that, the dude got 5 women to sleep with him at once, what is wrong there?

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    3. Re:Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Actually he got 5 women to spank him while wearing Nazi attire. Godwin'd that one now too, dammit.

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    4. Re:Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      True!

      A elderly man goes into confession and says to the priest,

      “Father, I’m 80 years old, married, have four kids and eleven healthy grandchildren, and last night I had an affair with two 18 year old girls. I made love with both of them twice.”

      The priest said, “Well, my son, when was the last time you were in confession?”

      “Never Father I’m Jewish.”

      “So then, why are you telling me?”

      “I’m telling everybody!”

    5. Re:Thank goodness for Wikipedia then. by waneck · · Score: 1

      I didn't know about his case, but from what I've read it, it seems to me that the newspaper really did invade his private life, and that's really bad. Many people are working hard to take off the "privilege" to have a private life, and that doesn't seem either desirable or good.

  4. Do not ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... think about elephants.

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    1. Re:Do not ... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      StayPuff Marshmallow man!

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    2. Re:Do not ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck, you just made me fail my polygraph.

  5. Google opposed the right to be forgotten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how can one be sure that this was an "accident?"

  6. Oops by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Sorry I accidentally pointed the spotlight at all those pests who were asking me to help them hide.

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  7. Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    What they should call it is , "little people have no right to know who they are dealing with". Lets face it anyone with the resources can find out all they want about the people they have dealings with. All this does is deny the ability to people who don't have the resources to do the digging.

    1. Re:Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should the private details of my life be less worthy of protection than some large corporations "intellectual property" (which Google promptly de-lists whenever requested)?

    2. Re:Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      The details don't go away and your privacy is only protected from people who just use free search engines.

    3. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fighting cancer is also useless and we still do it.

    4. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that getting something delisted with Google does not make the original "something" go away, right? Try one of the other search engines that do not censor results... you're still there.

    5. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      So you are comparing not letting people know they are dealing with crooks and swindlers to fighting cancer ?

    6. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Jiro · · Score: 1

      According to TFA and TFSummary, 99% of the accepted requests are privacy related and are not about crooks and swindlers.

    7. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      If you read the article what the Guardian is saying isn't very informative at all. What is a "Everyday Person", and where do you draw the line. Do you Google the people you date ? Would you like to know if they have AIDS ?

    8. Re: Right to be forgotten is a misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have a right to know if they have AIDS?

      If so, ask them.

      If you don't trust them to answer honestly, then maybe you should be a little more selective about who you date.

  8. what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the right-to-be-forgotten law is the most moronic useless feel good band aid i have seen in a long time

    it does nothing effective

    if you're looking to make a hiring decision or a dating decision, search on the person using a proxy from another country. 30 seconds extra effort and well within the technical abilities of even the barely computer literate

    heck, some euro should write an app for the purpose: "find out what the loser is hiding from you! search their history from another country!"

    besides, most of which should be "forgotten" shouldn't be forgotten at all: your douchebag financial or criminal history for example

    if you think kids shouldn't be judged for stupid kid stuff: any potential dating partner or workplace that would judge you on stupid teenage crap is no person you want to date/ place you want to work anyways

    and most importantly: if you don't want it to be public, don't make it fucking public in the first place. if someone reveals a secret about you they should not have, sue that asshole. don't think you can reverse time and erase public information

    maybe there once was a time this info would be harder to find (microfiche in the library basement in the 1980s)

    well, sorry: technology changes society, culture, and the law. inevitably and irrevocably. you can't go back in time. the printing press destroyed the aristocracy and replaced it with democracy by making the middle class educated and informed. do the aristocracy have a right to freeze time and not lose to the march of history?

    likewise, "right-to-be-forgotten" is a useless feel good band aid that has no real effect just because some old european assholes think it's great to fight the inevitability of technological change. their children will roll their eyes a their clueless feeble elders and reverse this stupid law

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    1. Re: what a useless law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many things that have improved our lives, were once "a stupid idea". I like it that my customer thinks as an independent innovator, instead of giving up on the power-struggle with corporations.

    2. Re: what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      what "power struggle" with corporations? i despise the power of corporations as much as the next person but this is about the persistence of information. you can't fight that. nor should you try. it's a wasted and misdirected effort

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    3. Re:what a useless law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need for a proxy or app, everyone I know here in Europe already uses "google.com/ncr" which is the US site and hence no European censorship...

    4. Re:what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      exactly, thank you

      the law is a completely useless feel good band aid for morons

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    5. Re:what a useless law by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      it does nothing effective

      How do you know? Can you show that that people who made these requests had the information revealed anyway? How do you know that happened? Can you cite any specific examples of failures?

      So far the evidence appears to be that it is working as intended. The EU seems mostly satisfied with the way Google has implemented it. Not just the EU of course, a Japanese court recently made a similar judgement.

      if you're looking to make a hiring decision or a dating decision, search on the person using a proxy from another country. 30 seconds extra effort and well within the technical abilities of even the barely computer literate

      You vastly overestimate the ability of the average person.

      besides, most of which should be "forgotten" shouldn't be forgotten at all: your douchebag financial or criminal history for example

      What right do you have to dictate European law? The EU has decided that some things shall be removed from the records available to people after some time. That's how we want to run our society. Your opinion has been noted and ignored.

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    6. Re:what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:what a useless law by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      One of the issues that the EU raised is to make sure that even the NCR and non-EU versions of the site remove those results when responding to EU IP addresses.

      Hardly anyone even knows that the NCR thing exists though, and everyone I know uses the default EU version of the site that is presented to them.

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    8. Re:what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      so you know morons who like being lied to and have information hidden from them

      what happy citizens of censorship paradise

      anyone actually interested in knowing somebody will make the slightly more marginal effort to search from outside the eu. it's easy. it's motivated by simple curiousity, and no one likes being lied to and kept in the dark

      why do you defend a paper thin joke of a law that only serves as a pleasantry for airheads and does nothing effective? why do you support censorship? why does a douchebag have a right to hide some evil shit he once did? if it was a false accusation or just plain embarrassing: why do you think people are unable to make that judgment? why would you want to ever have anything to do with someone who would not make the correct judgment about stupid teenage shit or false rumors?

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    9. Re:what a useless law by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      so you know morons who like being lied to and have information hidden from them

      Actually, yes, in Europe we do like having some information hidden from the public view. America does as well actually, e.g. it is illegal to publish a person's medical records without their consent.

      In Europe we like having a society where everyone can participate. We punish people who need punishing, but we rehabilitate them too so that they can become productive members of society again and stop being a burden on us. Part of that rehabilitation is forgetting certain things form their past that in the US will turn them into life-long career criminals because they can't get a job.

      Are you the same person you were 20 years ago? I think not, everyone changes over that time scale. Very few people are beyond reforming, and the law even recognizes that by stating that some serious crimes are never forgotten. But really, should one difficult period in your life 20 years ago mean you are now unable to do more than sweep the street (with another guy watching you in case you steal the broom)?

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    10. Re:what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      we're not talking about medical records you stupid fuck. we're talking about already publicly available information. changing the topic is a sign of losing an argument, that you're conceding a point but you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit it

      if you want to continue the charade that people who are curious about you don't know what a proxy is, be my guest. but it makes you look stupid and weakly insecure

      are you east german? do you think the stasi are still around? what a paranoid loser

      learn your own european history jackass, it doesn't work:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      this is rock of gibraltar truth: you can't delete what is public information. once it gets out there. it stays out there. no take backs. not because i say so, but because of the nature of reality. you're not arguing with me. you're arguing with the facts of life. but go ahead and shoot the messenger you stupid douchebag

      if someone pushes you out a window, what can you do? can you arrest, prosecute, sue the person that did that did that to you? yes. can you magically say "pushing me out a window was wrong, so magically i want to make it so i never fell out a window." that's exactly what you sound like. that's the same as your position on publicly available information

      you either understand and accept the reality, the basic facts, of the world you live in. or wage an impossible war against the inevitable, like trying to fight the rising and setting of the sun

      your choice, but you currently look like an airhead moron. your great right to be forgotten law is a figleaf for technologically illiterate idiots. this is all you really get:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      learn form your own literature, cervantes described you well you ignorant piece of shit:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    11. Re: what a useless law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are cases where both sides of this can be abused.
      But your agressive stance helps no one. You don't take into account culture, psychology, or personal feelings. Yes one can easily bypass this law, but not everyone has a proxy, so at least the protected info is not going to see as many eyes.
      Yes, this kind of law will be abused, all laws will be/are. But that does not give you the right to say tough, it's online forever now deal with it. When you've been a victim, stalked, or have had libel published on you from a very public source and have no other recourse to clear your name. Well then this law makes sense.

    12. Re: what a useless law by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      i don't have an aggressive stance. i have an understanding of the reality of the nature of information. which you lack. you have a fervent quasireligious hopeful belief in an impossible goal

      good luck to you and your windmills don quixote

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  9. Solution to Legislative Stupidity by pubwvj · · Score: 2

    Google does seem to have the knack for finding the perfect solutions to legislative stupidity. I hope they open source.

    1. Re:Solution to Legislative Stupidity by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Do you oppose those US websites that take publicly available arrest records and put them online, and then charge people to remove themselves? If not, can you explain why that isn't okay, but it's fine for Google to do basically the same thing except without the payment demand.

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    2. Re:Solution to Legislative Stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want law changes to make criminal matters private unless someone opts into making it publicly available.

      To answer your question, require the websites to remove the information (for free). If Google caches it, require them to clear the cache. The Right To Be Forgotten has more to do with search engines rather than the hosting service if I'm not mistaken.

    3. Re:Solution to Legislative Stupidity by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      Yep. Whatever opinion you hold, that payment demand does change everything.

    4. Re:Solution to Legislative Stupidity by pubwvj · · Score: 1

      Google is a search engine, an index, not the web site. You, and Europe, seem to miss this key point. Banning Google from showing something in their index does not remove that data from the internet nor does it even remove it from search engines. Other search engines still show the data, the data is still on the original web site and linked to by other web sites.

      We're also not talking about false information.

      Your argument is a red hearing and false. Your question is not worth answering because it is moot and a non sequitur.

  10. Only 5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's one way to spin it. The other is given that "politicians and high-profile public figures" are a very small minority of the population. 1%? 0.1%? they are massively overusing it relative the the general population.

    1. Re:Only 5% by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      someone rate this coward insightful.

      damn, that's like... all the politicians doing it it's it?

  11. You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Be Forgoooootten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MAC

  12. The Internet by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    ... never forgets.

    Good Luck!

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  13. bah. we have a right to know who wants to hide by swschrad · · Score: 1

    that's what "data wants to be free like beer" is all about.

    used to be it took old spies and retired cops with shelves full of criss-cross phone books to do skip tracing. find the lost siblings from adoption situations.do background checks before hiring people claiming to be old spies and retired cops. that's the Internet's job now.

    don't break it.

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  14. You are wrong. Did you read the RTFA ? by aepervius · · Score: 1
    Firstly I bet you are an idealist "information want to be free" or you are very very young. Otherwise you would realize that it isn't very good for privacy and society that *ALL* information is free, and if you were a bit older you would realize that the right to be forgotten was a FACT before google and search engine. Nobody went into journal archive to check the new coworker or dating parsons. This is not progress, this is a terrible things to do to a whole lot of generations to have a society which cannot forget or forgive.

    besides, most of which should be "forgotten" shouldn't be forgotten at all: your douchebag financial or criminal history for example

    Wrong. 95% of the request are actually found to be perfectely normal member of the public. Less than 5% are about prison, and financial stuff.

    and most importantly: if you don't want it to be public, don't make it fucking public in the first place.

    And what do you do when a 3rd aprty publish information on you ? Well good luck with that. And outdated information ? And many country prefer rehabilitation versus revenge. that women for example which made a tweeter PR faux pas ? If it follows her forever then her life is ruined. She will be unemployable for the rest of her life.

    if you're looking to make a hiring decision or a dating decision, search on the person using a proxy from another country. 30 seconds extra effort and well within the technical abilities of even the barely computer literate

    Most people do not bother with the US google they use their own language google. And that is enough to be forgotten.

    heck, some euro should write an app for the purpose: "find out what the loser is hiding from you! search their history from another country!"

    Some "euro" yeah nice spelling. You realize that such app would imemdiately be ilelgal and the person attacked in justice if it sell/offer this app made especialyl to skirt the law ?

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    1. Re:You are wrong. Did you read the RTFA ? by circletimessquare · · Score: 1
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  15. Oh FFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I were an asshole - which I really try not to be - I would summarily dump all the information I just dug up about you (starting from trivially accessed semi-public log data) right here.

    The point isn't that "personal information is out there." Not even close. The point is that because we know that, and we know the result of it, that now it is extremely clear that personal information should not be out there, and so we also know it should stop being put out there, and that people can change, and even if they don't, then that fact can be dealt with on a case by case basis. I could judge you on long-ago behavior of yours. But that would make into that very asshole I don't want to be.

    The public's urge to punish and gossip and play vigilante is one of its least constructive and most harmful aspects.

    You should be ashamed for arguing in its favor or even hinting that the situation is irreversible, from any point of view.

    You have previously stated that you knew that the day was coming when your online anonymity would end. Would it not be unfortunate if that was the day someone who really doesn't like some aspect of your lifestyle or attitude decided to play vigilante?

    Privacy needs to be recognized as a first-level shield against those of our society who do not think rationally, or well, and are not unwilling to put their opinions into extremely concrete action.

    Likewise, a "second chance" mentality is far more beneficial than a "ostracize them forever" mentality.

    The current situation is getting worse, and one of the reasons it is doing so is because of the kind of fatalistic sycophancy you write of.

    You're a very smart guy. You'd be a lot more of a force for good if you would get on the right side of this issue.

    1. Re:Oh FFS by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      If I were an asshole - which I really try not to be - I would summarily dump all the information I just dug up about you (starting from trivially accessed semi-public log data) right here.

      that's as far as i read

      go ahead

      "if i were an asshole, which i'm not but watch me act like one with a pathetic threat in the same sentence..." yeah, ok, i see what kind of shitbag i'm dealing with

      you can't exactly maintain the moral high ground when you reveal you would happily defy what you purport to stand for

      example:

      "we should nuke ISIS to prove we are more civilized than them"

      notice the problem? good, now notice you have the same problem asswipe

      being that you are morally bankrupt, there's nothing to do except to tell you to fuck off. you have no merit and you're beneath contempt

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