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Commodore PET Smartphone Comes Loaded With C64 and Amiga Emulators

Mickeycaskill writes: Commodore is launching an Android-powered smartphone that lets 1980s gaming fans play their favourite retro titles. It runs a custom version of Android 5.0 Lollipop and lets you play both old Commodore 64 and Amiga games with its preinstalled VICE C64 and Uae4All2-SDL Amiga emulators. Configurations vary between 2GB and 3GB of RAM and 16GB or 32GB of storage, with a 5.5 inch display and 1.7GHz processor included in all versions. The Catch? It's only available in France, Germany, Italy and Poland to begin with, but other markets are set to follow.

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  1. Oh, hell no! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    The 80's called and want their mobile phones back.

  2. Really? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is there still a company called Commodore which owns this stuff? I assumed it was long since dead and gone.

    Honestly, sell it as an app .. I'm sure you don't need a custom Android to emulate a frigging C64 on a modern smart phone.

    At least, I sure as hell hope a 1.7 GHz "octa-core" processor is up to that task. I mean, we're talking 35+ year old technology for crying out loud.

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    1. Re:Really? by edjs · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is there still a company called Commodore which owns this stuff? I assumed it was long since dead and gone.

      There is a zombie of a trademark still shuffling along. The original company itself is long dead and has remained buried.

    2. Re:Really? by exomondo · · Score: 2

      Yet another smartphone?

      And of course "it runs a custom version of Android". Sure make yet another smartphone but do we need another fork of Android for it? Why can't they just preload their emulators onto a stock version of Android?

      This "custom version of Android" rubbish is just code for: if it isnt successful it will be abandoned and users wont get updates. Make it a stock version and add your applications and support for specific hardware on top so that users can upgrade to the latest version of Android when Google releases it.

  3. Not so fast ... by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Informative

    Android Police did some digging and (ignoring the fact that the Commodore name is currently owned by the creditors of Asiarim Corp - who created a new company called C= and have done nothing more than make a website for it back in 2013) it looks to be a carbon copy of the Orgtec WaPhone.

    On the upside, it does have some Amiga emulators loaded onto the phone - but you can easily get them from Google Play yourself.

    TL;DR? It's unlikely to be Commodore, its a heavily marked up skinned phone and uses the MediaTek MT6752 chip - so you should probably keep away.

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  4. Re:Where Do I Plug In My Cassette Drive?? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember it as more like "Step 4. Wait 37 minutes for it to fail, Step 5. Try again."

    I certainly do NOT miss loading stuff from cassette tape.

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  5. Re:woo by MacTO · · Score: 4, Informative

    Commodore, as a company, has not existed for a very, very long time. This is simply the product of companies buying or licensing the trademarks. And no, it isn't meant as a business for the long term. It's simply cashing in on the trademark's nostalgic value while it still has some value.

    As an aside, this isn't the first Commodore phone. If I recall correctly, they were selling office equipment before they were a computer manufacturer. One of their products was a rotary phone.

  6. iPhone with Apple II Emulator by smist08 · · Score: 2

    Perhaps this will prompt Apple to add an Apple II Emulator to iOS 9. Should then open up the Apple Store to all that great Apple II software.

    1. Re:iPhone with Apple II Emulator by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All that great old software is best left in memory. Trying to use them again is like trying to watch your childhood favorite TV show.

      I will never again be young enough to appreciate 'Speed Racer' or 'Star Trek'. Same is true for Apple ][ games.

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  7. 3 gigs of ram? by RJFerret · · Score: 5, Funny

    3 GB of ram is 2 GB and 1,016 MB more RAM than I need for anything I run on my Amiga. (That's presuming 2 MB of CHIP RAM separate from the Fast RAM.)

    Heck, with that much RAM I could multitask every title and application I ever had. *glances over at rack of 3.5" floppies in bookcase

  8. Re:Where Do I Plug In My Cassette Drive?? by JoeCommodore · · Score: 2

    This was a PET, the ,1,1 is irrelevant, relocating LOAD option was introduced in the VIC-20. There is a process to relocate programs from the VIC or 64 to the start of BASIC on the PET:

    http://www.portcommodore.com/d...

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  9. Re:C64 was a computer by maligor · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the article, "Commodore, best known for its Commodore 64 games console,..."

    WTF.

    None ever expects the Commodore 64 Games System. It's primary weapon is games, obscurity.. it's two primary weapons are games, obscurity and lack of keyboard... it's three primary weapons are games, obscurity and lack of keyboard.

  10. Games console?! by Mark4ST · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article refers to a "Commodore 64 games console." There's no such thing. The C64 was a fully user-programmable computer which also played games. The link in the article for "Commodore 64 games console" brings you to an article about a totally unrelated computer, the ZX Spectrum. Nerd rage engaged.

    1. Re:Games console?! by AntiSol · · Score: 2

      Go read up on the C64GS before you make sweeping declarations. :P

      Granted, the article is wrong - the GS was damn obscure, and the real C64 was indeed a real computer. But there was a console.

    2. Re:Games console?! by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      The article refers to a "Commodore 64 games console." There's no such thing.

      Considering the basic hardware design that became the C64 was originally envisioned as a game console, there are TWO game consoles based on C64 technology.

      The first being the Commodore Max/Ultimax of 1982 (that's right, it was released BEFORE the C64), basically a C64 with less RAM, no serial or user port, and a membrane keyboard. It was Japan only, but apparently at one time they were planning on releasing the thing more widely. What probably happened is that manufacturing costs of what became the full C64 came down and brought the machine into the price range of MAX. The C64 is fully compatible with MAX cartridges since it has an "Ultimax" mode.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      The Other being the C64GS of 1990 that was mentioned.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Unlike the MAX it has the full RAM of a C64. This machine was Europe only, probably because Commodore survived longer in Europe thanks to the EU/UK protectionism that made it harder for Nintendo and Sega to sell their consoles at competitive prices. Thats probably also the reason this PET phone is Europe only for now. The current "commodore" being seen as European.

  11. Re:woo by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 2

    I used to have a Commodore Vic-Modem (300bps) that came with a rotary-dial phone that had the Commodore name printed on the front of it. The phone was actually made by Norhern Telecom, so it wasn't an actual Commodore-manufactured phone.

    To use that modem you dialed the number on the telephone and then flipped a switch to engage the modem.

    I just now found a picture of that setup here: http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics...

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  12. Re:Where Do I Plug In My Cassette Drive?? by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2

    The failed loading was basically due to the tape heads being misaligned.
    And the woeful speed was also fixed by tape turbos... but again, took third parties to do it.
    Also decent data compression wasn't widely used. Most of the data being saved was uncompressed.

    With aligned heads, decent data compression, and fast tape turbos.... it became completely possibly to jam around 60 decent games onto a single C90 cassette. .... but by that time, the world had moved on.

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