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Ask Slashdot: How Often Do You Update Your OS?

An anonymous reader writes: A couple friends of mine have been having a debate recently. One is constantly updating all of his operating systems (desktop, phone, and otherwise), often as soon as a new patch is available. He tries betas and nightlies. He has a different ROM on his phone every other week. The other friend is much more conservative with his updates. Once his systems are running smoothly, he wants to leave them alone for as long as possible. He'll do some serious security updates, but he's extremely wary of anything involving major UI changes or functionality differences. What's your preference? Are you constantly tweaking? Waiting for the early adopters to work out the kinks? How does your preference change between work machines and personal machines?

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  1. It's all about the Pentiums by ender- · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the immortal words of Weird Al:

    "I've beta tested every operating system; gave props to some but others, I dissed 'em "

    Yeah I tend to update and change my OS frequently on my personal systems. Work systems tend to be kept in known stable configurations.

  2. Ubuntu by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is an issue that I think is handled beautifully by Ubuntu's release system. LTS releases come out on a relatively steady schedule, with bleeding-edge releases in between. I personally stick with LTS releases, which come out often enough to keep me up to date with features, etc., but without lots of things breaking all the time.

    And, yes, I like Unity very much.

  3. Update slow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let the suckers and adventurers be the beta testers.

    Don't run the crap which is most likely to be causing you security problems in the first place -- I've never been impacted by a Flash zero day exploit because I don't run it.

    Many years of being around computers has taught me that I have no intention of putting up with the drama of beta testing for companies who do a lousy job of QA.

    I've seen WAY too many things which are broken on day 1, or even worse, which introduce new broken on day 1 that it takes some time to identify.

    There isn't an OS vendor on the planet I'd accept a fresh release from and install on the first day.

    If you do this stuff as a hobby, have fun with it. The rest of us don't have the time or the inclination to consider upgrading the OS to be a hobby.

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  4. Re:Coke or Pepsi by ender- · · Score: 5, Informative

    the Emacs vs VI war is over (Emacs won) ...

    Yeah I'm thinking not. I've been a Unix sysadmin for over 15 years and I've never worked with a single person who uses Emacs.

  5. Re:Screws with users by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Automotive control interfaces change all of the time.

    Into about 1980 all American cars and trucks had, for many years, placed the headlights control on the dash at the left. Wiper blade control was usually on the lower left side of the dash near the knee bolster. They placed the turn signal on the left side of the column, placed the gearshift on the right side of the column, and placed the brights control on the floor, operated by the left foot. The radio was generally low on the right side. If a fancy car had an interior dome light with dimming capability it was usually placed on the left with the headlight control, and if there was cruise control, the function was integrated with the turn signal indicator stalk, with a slider on the side for set/coast and a button on the tip for on/off.

    In the late seventies and eighties they started playing with multifunction stalks and all bets were off. Some cars integrated nearly every function into the stalk, and if the car had a floor shifter instead of a column shifter sometimes a second multifunction stalk was added to the right side. Floor controls were mostly eliminated and most low, hard to reach controls were relocated to stalks. Tilting telescoping steering columns added a third stalk on the lower-left of the column. When Mercedes Benz took over Chrysler they attempted to add a fourth stalk to the column, low on the right, for the cruise control. Steering wheels got controls on the front, then on the back. At one point early on there was a "rim blow" steering wheel where squeezing the wheel would activate the horn.

    My point is that automotive controls are very much NOT standard. Even basic functions like gear selection could be pushbutton, could be a column stalk, could be a dash stalk, could be a floor stick, could be a dash-mounted knob, could be a center-console knob, and there are probably more variations yet. Drivers have to get used to each and every configuration.

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  6. Re:I update my OS every time MSFT kills it by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is the entire lab doing planning to run Win 10 Home? That's the only edition that forces mandatory updates. Pro lets you defer them; Enterprise lets you completely control the process

  7. Re:Coke or Pepsi by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the Emacs vs VI war is over (Emacs won)

    Say what? I work in a shop with extensive Solaris and Linux installation, and run several personal Linux boxes as well. They all have vi. None of them, as far as I know, and I checked several, have Emacs. This was not a conscious decision for any of them: it's just the way the hosts installed (although on my personal boxes, I would've installed vi had it not installed by itself). Who won the war?

  8. BAH! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Still running Windows for Workgroups 3.11....

    MS word 2.0 works just fine!

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  9. Depends upon the OS... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It depends a lot on the OS

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    Version updates:

    • Windows - stick with Windows 7 until it is no longer supported
    • FreeBSD - update to new versions a month or so after they are released
    • OS-X - stopped updating because Apple stopped supporting my Macmini
    • OpenBSD - update to new versions a month or so after they are released

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    Security and other interim updates:

    • Windows - security updates only (I used to update other items, but then Microsoft started pushing Windows 10 garbage onto my PCs)
    • FreeBSD - stay current with the release version updates
    • OS-X - stopped updating because Apple stopped supporting my Macmini
    • OpenBSD - stay current with the release version updates
  10. Re:I update my OS every time MSFT kills it by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is the entire lab doing planning to run Win 10 Home? That's the only edition that forces mandatory updates. Pro lets you defer them; Enterprise lets you completely control the process

    It's the extortion model of OS pricing.

    "Lovely little computer you have here. Shame if it got broken in an update. Just buy a little insurance and you can avoid all that."

  11. Re:Screws with users by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Automotive control interfaces change all of the time.

    But in most cases, the automobile someone drivers does not.

    And when someone does change car, maybe every 5-10 years, getting up to speed with the new controls takes them a few minutes.

    This is because, fair as the examples you give of evolving car controls might be, ultimately you still turn the steering wheel to change direction (and you turn it anticlockwise to turn left). When you get a different car, you still have the same gas and brake pedals you used to. If you drive a manual then you still have the same clutch pedal and probably a near-identical gear stick arrangement. The range of external lights and when you use them hasn't changed a lot in decades. The internal and external environment-related controls are still roughly the same. The changes are mostly cosmetic, more akin to changing visual themes in software than changing actual functionality to something significantly different that the user must then learn before they can use the software effectively again.

    If software only changed its UI significantly every 5-10 years, and you could choose when to switch, and when you did it would still basically work the same way but you might have to spend five minutes figuring out where the main functions were found in the new version, I don't think users would be nearly as frustrated by the changes as so many are today.

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  12. Does the update improve my LIFE? by holophrastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I also have a friend who upgrades everything all the time. "the new phone's amazing" either means that the "old phone sucks" -- which makes no sense since the old phone was "amazing" when it was new too -- or that the new marketing is amazing -- which makes sense because the old marketing was also amazing.

    There are countly amazing things that can be added to anything. Some new features are just really impressive. But being impressive doesn't mean that it improves my life at all.

    A frisbee that can be thrown over a half-mile is really cool (and called an aerobe, by the way, and I love them) but I don't have a park that large, nor would I enjoy playing catch with a friend that far away.

    Similarly, most new OS features might be neat, but they don't actually change my life at all. Perhaps the best example I can give is with regard to office/productivity suites.

    Between word, excel, wordperfect, lotus 123, and-if-you-thought-wordperfect-was-dating-myself wordstar, I've been writing essays and poems and business documents for close to thirty years. Before the computer "clipboard", before 3d text-art, before pivot tables, before ribbon bars, before toolbars, before menu bars, before arrow-keys, even before the mouse. In the end, the business documents that I produce today, to earn a living, aren't any more sophistimicated than the ones that I producted 25 years ago, early in my career. Believe it or not, youngin's, business invoices and quotes and proposals existing before XML. So none of these new features actually provide any additional benefit to my life. They only change the way I create the very same invoice -- whether for dot-matrix, inkjet, laser, PDF, or e-mail.

    How many new OS features actually add to my life? The answer is: none. So I upgrade my OS when I upgrade my computer. When is that? When my computer is too old to play the almost-latest games -- because games are entertainment, and entertainment is my sole purpose in life.

    The OS is very definitely secondary.

    All that said, there have been OS upgrades that have improved my life. Win 95 let me switch between games and work faster, which meant that I could play more games. Vista let me have more pixels so I could work more at a time and keep the tv playing in the corner at the same time. Win 7 added nothing. Win 8 added nothing. Win 10 would let me work cross-device better, if my work were capable of being done anywhere but a desk, but it ain't.

    1. Re:Does the update improve my LIFE? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think you realise how things have changed. From your post I can see you're expecting only life changing killer features out of every upgrade. The reality is that the OSes and applications have changed a lot, but the improvements have been minor and incremental so you don't actually realise what you're missing.

      Not everything needs to be a killer feature. Sometimes basic things like easy to use format templates in Word, intelligent cell colouring in Excel, or the new file copy dialogue in Windows 8 have all been great feature upgrades. None individually have changed my life but ultimately all of them contribute to improving it. I could make pivot tables in Excel back in Office 97 (I'm not sure how much earlier that feature was available) but it took a heck of a lot longer and was far more complicated than the single click and drag operation it is now.

      What you're doing now may not be more sophisticated, but now anyone can do it, and anyone can do it quickly.

      The fact that you think nothing new was added between Vista and Windows 10 other than cross-device functionality would imply that either you're using the new features blindly without realising they are an improvement, or aren't aware of their existence. I'm especially amazed since you're talking about the ability to multi-task in Vista on multiple monitors that you haven't used or raved about aero snap in Windows 7 allowing you to with a simple keypress move windows around between monitors, even side by side. That doesn't even include under the hood improvements to indexing, support for solid state drives, full disk encryption.

      Basically: Just because you don't use or don't like a feature doesn't mean each OS hasn't had significant improvements.