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FCC CIO: Consumers Need Privacy Controls In the Internet of Everything Era

Lemeowski writes: Who is responsible for ensuring security and privacy in the age of the Internet of Things? As the number of Internet-connected devices explodes — Gartner estimates that 25 billion devices and objects will be connected to the Internet by 2020 — security and privacy issues are poised to affect everyone from families with connected refrigerators to grandparents with healthcare wearables. In this interview, U.S. Federal Communications Commission CIO David Bray says control should be put in the hands of individual consumers. Speaking in a personal capacity, Bray shares his learnings from a recent educational trip to Taiwan and Australia he took as part of an Eisenhower Fellowship: "A common idea Bray discussed with leaders during his Eisenhower Fellowship was that the interface for selecting privacy preferences should move away from individual Internet platforms and be put into the hands of individual consumers." Bray says it could be done through an open source agent that uses APIs to broker their privacy preferences on different platforms.

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  1. P3P, DNT, 2015 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Bray says it could be done through an open source agent that uses APIs to broker their privacy preferences on different platforms.

    We tried this twice. First with P3P (which was complicated and unenforceable), then DNT (which was simple but still unenforceable). The FCC needs to get behind a platform and mandate it. Or better yet, just ban advertising-related tracking ANYWAY since literally zero people are going to opt-into that without a financial incentive. (The main reason why DNT fell through, actually: IE11 enabled it by default and the ad industry decided to ignore DNT entirely)

  2. No government interest by alvinrod · · Score: 2

    The government has no real interest in legislating for privacy because even if they stopped snooping on everyone (which they shouldn't be doing to start with, even though that hasn't stopped them) it would simply be a matter of filing legal paperwork to get any information that they wanted from the corporations who are collecting and storing that data for their own reasons.

    If the FCC tried to do this of their own initiative, Congress would shut them down for "overstepping their bounds".

    Knowledge is power, especially knowledge of a person's secrets.

    1. Re:No government interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. This is the objective of "privacy is dead" and "if you have nothing to hide...".

      It's not that privacy is dead, it's that we're weaponizing this information. Or, I should say, *they* are weaponizing this information. Strange how some information generated about you by devices you own isn't available to *you*.

      The government likes weapons regardless of the form.

    2. Re:No government interest by FranTaylor · · Score: 0

      Strange how some information generated about you by devices you own isn't available to *you*.

      Yeah, if I loan someone a pencil, it's strange that I can't magically detect everything that it writes.

    3. Re:No government interest by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Meh, with the same paperwork, they could pull it straight from your inhouse server. This seems like a Good Thing(tm), and one that makes me want this guy to have more political power knowing only this about him.

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  3. All your IoT is belong to us by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Baaaaa!

    Meanwhile, there are holes you can drive a truck at speeds up to 125 mph thru. Remotely. Against your will.

    Mind if I slam on the brakes?

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  4. cat out of bag by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    horse out of barn. don't have one about a car.

  5. No problem! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We, the fine folks at the interactive advertising bureau, are delighted by the notion of a 'consumer preference client'. Indeed, we are so strongly committed to it that we recommend that it be incorporated at the hardware level, in order to provide additional trust in the 'Trusted Platform' that forms the foundation of the secure online marketplaces of tomorrow. With a suitably immutable GUID baked into every piece of hardware, we can finally ensure that each and every consumer receives exactly the privacy settings and offers most relevant to them!

    1. Re:No problem! by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

      With a suitably immutable GUID baked into every piece of hardware,

      the chinese are already way out in front of you here

    2. Re:No problem! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so is Apple (iOS), Google (Android), Microsoft (Windows 10)

      it seems the US tech/CS academic industry is entirely dedicated to selling shitty adverts for shit products by desperate companies, the best scientific minds from a country that went to the moon have become nothing more than glorified salesmen for the Chinese, weep.

  6. The answer is simple by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All personal data should be presumed copyrighted by the person it describes (including email and such). And a new law is passed that requires any company that sells personal data is required to keep a record of where that data came from, and any requests to delete that data would be fed upstream to the sources of that data.

    Today "privacy" can't work with things like "take me off your list". Because the company that makes the call doesn't "own" the list. They rent it from a company that keeps a master list. The master list company will *never* try to contact a customer directly, because then they'd be responsible for taking someone off the list, when required.

    But if the list renter was required by law to pass the removal request to the source of the data, then "take me off your list" would have real teeth. In addition to helping the people who complain and ask to be removed, it would help everyone because it would drive the master list companies out of business. Rent-seeking middle men who profit from arbitrage caused by legal loopholes should never exist.

    1. Re:The answer is simple by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      All personal data should be presumed copyrighted by the person it describes

      who gets the copyright after they die? it won't expire for many years

    2. Re:The answer is simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The copyright idea is great! You need to know that your info goes no farther that those with whom you wish to share.

    3. Re:The answer is simple by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Your heirs. What's the point of the question?

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    4. Re:The answer is simple by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      not everyone has heirs

    5. Re:The answer is simple by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      You need to know that your info goes no farther that those with whom you wish to share.

      What a great way to keep people from snitching on your crimes: threaten them with copyright infringement if they go to the police.

    6. Re:The answer is simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An heir does not necessarily mean children. Make a living will, list recipients. Done.

    7. Re:The answer is simple by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      According to my country's laws, everyone has heirs. Aside of you making a will and determining it yourself, there is a long, long list of default heirs (from kids to their descendants, then your siblings, your parents, your uncles and cousins...), with the state being the eventual heir if there is actually nobody in your list of relatives that is eligible, willing and able to be your heir.

      Someone will inherit it. Just like it is with the rest of your "worldly possessions". Trust me, if there is one law that most certainly works out and has been tested literally through generations, it's inheritance.

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  7. Consumers Need Privacy Controls by Earthquake+Retrofit · · Score: 2

    In the age of the internet of things. And not a moment before.

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  8. Um, why do we need an IoT? by w3woody · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Okay, an internet connected thermostat does add functionality. An internet connected fire detector and an internet connected home security system also makes sense. (Though if you're working on a home security system that hooks up to the Internet and you don't think about software security, you're an idiot who needs to be put into protective custody and fed by a nurse so you don't accidentally poke your eyes out while eating with a plastic fork.)

    But why do I need an internet connected oven, refrigerator, or toaster? Do I need an internet connected coffee maker? An internet connected microwave? What value do they add, really? Notifications?

    1. Re:Um, why do we need an IoT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How else will the devices report back to google and amazon what your living habits are for advertising purposes, so you can buy more hot pockets when the freezer detects you are low?

    2. Re:Um, why do we need an IoT? by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

      How else will the devices report back to google and amazon what your living habits are for advertising purposes, so you can buy more hot pockets when the freezer detects you are low?

      your watch will detect your blood sugar level and suggest various munchies

    3. Re: Um, why do we need an IoT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How else will you get security updates for your toaster? You don't want an insecure toaster now do you?

      Because, umm, shiny! And twitter and stuff in the cloud! Must tweet your daily bread.

    4. Re:Um, why do we need an IoT? by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Only us old foggies wear watches anymore.

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    5. Re:Um, why do we need an IoT? by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I'm still trying to figure out what benefit this provides me.

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  9. Profit! by digsbo · · Score: 1

    It's probably a lot like the digital TV thing the FCC pushed, where they had a financial stake as individuals in companies poised to benefit from the new regulations. Surely Michael Powell or someone like him is invested in a company which is getting ready to offer part of the "solution".

  10. There needs REAL liability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your company got hacked and millions of users' information (name, credit card, sexual fetishes, etc) got stolen? JAIL TIME all the way up the chain wherever there's even a hint of (ir)responsibility. If you're in the chain and have concerns, you raise questions with backed up emails or leave.

    We don't need much more extra legislation than already exists. As someone already mentioned, this info might even be considered copyrighted! So the guilty company participated by their careless attitude, security, design, and/or unnecessary information retaining to the 20M+ (for example) cases of copyright infringement. So what we need is "teeth" and "will to prosecute".

  11. Oh please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Privacy is dead. Google declared it so.

  12. It's a larger problem by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think that this is really part of a larger problem that eventually ties back to identity management and account management. That may sound like a strange thing to leap to, but hear me out.

    One of the problems I've noticed for years is that it's not easy to keep track of all my accounts. Every time I sign up for a new account or trial, I have to create a new account, create a username, create a password, associate it with an email account, choose security questions, bla bla bla. Dual-factor authentication is supposed to help with some of the security problems associated with all this nonsense, but it also adds another complication to the whole thing. Once all that's done, I need to keep track of all that information that I used to sign up.

    It's not so bad for individual accounts, but after a few decades of trying things out, abandoning accounts, signing up for trials that I end up not using, and all kinds of things, I really don't know what accounts I have available on which services, what the usernames are, or which email address they're associated with. When I answered security questions, I don't necessarily know what I answered with-- it asked for my favorite author, but was that my favorite author from 2 years ago or 10 years ago? Did I tell the truth when I answered it, or did I answer with a sarcastic joke answer? I honestly don't know for some accounts. I don't even know, for example, if I still have a MySpace account from roughly a decade ago, that I created, signed into a couple of times, and forgot about.

    You're thinking this is completely off-topic, but here's the thing: as you have an "Internet of things", there's a good chance that each of those items are going to have their own account on their own service. You have some program to control your lights at home? That program will need an account. Someone invents a smart-vacuum, and it's internet connected? That'll have it's own account. These days, companies don't want to collaborate and develop standard APIs, common platforms, open protocols, or whatever else. Every company developing an app or a website wants to do it's own thing it's own way, while locking out the competition from interoperability. So now, every new Internet-connected thing is going to add complexity to your online life.

    Asking to provide privacy controls to consumers is putting the cart before the horse. Even if you want to provide those controls, you're going to have different controls in different places in different UIs, all across different services with different accounts. Users won't be able to effectively manage those controls even if you provide them. What needs to happen first is that we need to develop some kind of identity management and SSO that begins to shrink the task of managing these various accounts. Once you have something like that, you could create APIs for managing those accounts, opening and shutting down accounts, viewing which private information is available in each account, and restricting/removing the private information as needed.

    1. Re:It's a larger problem by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      you could create APIs for managing those accounts, opening and shutting down accounts, viewing which private information is available in each account, and restricting/removing the private information as needed.

      you're dreaming if you think the average person who can't be bothered to run windows update is gonna put up with this

    2. Re:It's a larger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You have some program to control your lights at home? That program will need an account". No it won't. Never in my house anyway. I know that many people think that the famous cloud is the future and even synonymous with the Internet of Things. But I don't. If I can't control the things directly, without a third party, It's a useless product. Period.

    3. Re: It's a larger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just write em down. Seriously. About 2 years ago it got to the point where I was using about 25 separate logins on a semi-regular basis. All different because I don't want to get hacked on all just because one got breached. So I started just writing the damn things down by hand on a hidden list.

      Said list now has over 100 passwords and I haven't had to do the password retrieval dance in over a year. Bliss (until I lose the list I suppose).

    4. Re: It's a larger problem by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      problem solved with Keepass, it's on my phone and on my pc.

    5. Re:It's a larger problem by nine-times · · Score: 1

      It's even crazier to think that they'll manage privacy settings effectively across all the different online accounts that they have. Something like this would at least give a savvy person the possibility of managing privacy settings.

    6. Re: It's a larger problem by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Keep ass? What an unfortunate choice in names.

  13. Identity & keys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To enable security and privacy of users we do need a trusted resource to assure signing and provide revocable keys. At the risk of sounding like a luddite, I would suggest that the UP Post Office is the perfect entity to provide this service. One critical piece of security missing is a guaranteed piece cyber of identity. The Post Office has at least one office in every small town, has the authority of federal law to confirm identity (such as they do with passport applications) and has been in the information business for centuries. Having your keys signed by the post office would allow a bank or vendor to trust who is sending data or a digital signature. If you need to establish or reset keys they can check your ID and accept a new password. They have their own police force and are used to handling fraud. Ya, ya, NSA, FBI, yada, yada, yada, Snowden.... All I'm suggesting is a way to prove who you are when you ARE being public. (for example, "hey Bank, this is Foo please send $1B to Bar") No one says you have to use it all the time, but I sure would only accept signed email to keep scam spam out.

  14. Maybe I'm cynical but by burtosis · · Score: 2

    All data, no matter how seemingly innocuous, when ammassed, allows agencies to substantially abuse everything from subtle advertising, to obtaining private medical information, to downright spying. At this point, given all the breaches at every single level from government, medical, and business on down, and given that even major agencies/groups have sold information - isn't it a bit like trying to put the cat back into the bag? I mean it's a nice idea but I see it as trying to fix healthcare in America - there is no right answer we have built upon a foundation already and are entrenched. Not to mention that the NSA/CIA/FBI will just snoop any left over anyhow and likely still bungle security at some level as insane as that sounds. Or are we thinking of the children who have yet to have generated information to be stolen yet?

    1. Re:Maybe I'm cynical but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No reality is that people only recognize a breech of their security well after the fact. After it hits home and significantly affects them. Its funny how my Wife cannot access my health records but a hacker can steal millions of people's information and not be caught. Are we addressing the right threats?
      So now we have hackers taking control of a Jeep going down the highway, yet we should embrace driverless vehicles? Its like we ignore the very threat that happens everyday because someone wants this technology. Yet nobody seems to force anyone to prove its hack proof. If that's even possible which many doubt.

    2. Re:Maybe I'm cynical but by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      So now we have hackers taking control of a Jeep going down the highway, yet we should embrace driverless vehicles?

      Human beings controlling automobiles cause 30,000 deaths every year. By all accounts driverless vehicles will cut that figure dramatically. Are you saying it's not worth it?

      We go to war when 5000 people die in one incident, what is the appropriate response when 30,000 people die every year?

    3. Re:Maybe I'm cynical but by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      What sort of handwaving is this 'by all accounts' you're engaging in?

      There's no proven record. We'll have to wait a bit. Take it easy.

  15. Consumers will only care by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    Consumers will only care until Google offers a free service in exchange for their privacy. Then they'll happily not care.

  16. Eisenhower was one of those Republicans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    therefore he hates privacy. Their kind is against it except for themselves. They are such hypocrites. This study was more about how to invade our privacy and destroy our lives because they hate us.

  17. The individual consumer?! by thermowax · · Score: 1

    Well, security controls sure as fuck should be placed in the hands of the individual consumer- because our esteemed Government has shown themselves to be woefully incompetent at protecting our data. My SF-86 is now floating around out there somewhere.

    The idiocy of the average individual is at least roughly the same as our government. I've had it with these clowns.