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Researchers: Mobile Users Will Trade Data For Fun and Profit

itwbennett writes: Even as mobile users become more security and privacy conscious, researchers and other mobile data collectors still to collect user data in order to build products and services. The question: How to get users to give up that data? Researchers at the New Jersey Institute of Technology tested two incentives: gamification and micropayments. The test involved building a campus Wi-Fi coverage map using user data collected from student participants who either played a first-person shooter game or who were paid to complete certain tasks (e.g., taking photos). The game turned out to be a quick and efficient way to build the Wi-Fi coverage map. But data from the micropayments group was found to be "sometimes unreliable, and individuals were trying to trick the system into thinking they had accomplished tasks."

21 comments

  1. Lie, cheat and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We've figured out how much money you're making off our data, and we see none of it. So all the data you're gathering is stolen.

    1. Re:Lie, cheat and steal by Sowelu · · Score: 1

      None of it? None at all? Do the websites you visit not have to pay for hosting? Do the content providers you patronize not pay their writers?

    2. Re:Lie, cheat and steal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not stolen if you hand it over freely. If you want something to be private, don't blast it out to anyone who asks.

      It's your device. If you can't or won't control it to your own satisfaction, pick a device that you can control.

  2. Free data for your data! by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    What? This is not about data caps? nevermind then.

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  3. Duh. But correlary by neminem · · Score: 2

    I am absolutely willing to trade my personal data for fun and/or profit. I figure they'll get it anyway, might as well help them along if I can get something out of it. Only if what I have to trade is worth what I'm getting, though. My personal data is worth way more to an aggregator than it is to me, so I'm happy to sell it to them.

    Generally speaking, though, all the *mobile* apps that try to help me sell that data, suck my phone's battery like a cheap robot hooker, and *that's* worth way more to me. So I don't bother with them, which is too bad. (I've tried a couple similar programs for PC use, too. Don't have to worry about battery in that context, of course, but I do have to worry that they won't sporadically bug out and totally go crazy eating all my cpu and/or ram, which they have, so not bothering with those, either.)

    Just sticking to *passive* methods of selling my data (i.e. surveys) has been pretty lucrative, though. A little bit more time-consuming, and the data they're getting might not be quite as precise, but it won't interfere with the things I actually *want* to use my laptop and/or phone for.

    1. Re:Duh. But correlary by s.petry · · Score: 1

      " figure they'll get it anyway, might as well help them along if I can get something out of it." is a self fulfilling prophesy. People only win because you have already surrendered.

      I won't claim that nobody has sifted my data for a profile, but I surely don't give companies anything even for a price. The exception I can think of off the top of my head is my GM Car and On-Star. I realize that they can track me by GPS, but I don't drive very much. My car is a 2011 with 18K miles on it, and about 4,000 of that is from when I moved across the country. The bank knows where my car is parked so I don't think On-Star makes that much difference.

      Games, Facebook, Apps for the phone, forget it. Even things that require email addresses can generally be done with disposable email accounts with the exception of Facebook which I have not visited in years.

      I'm not knocking you, your information is yours to hand away or sell as you wish. Just don't have the expectation that we should all do like you do.

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    2. Re:Duh. But correlary by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      Notice: If you post anonymously do not expect a reply.

      A bit of an ironic signature then ;)

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    3. Re:Duh. But correlary by s.petry · · Score: 1

      Why is it that so many people fail to comprehend what "do not expect" means. If English is not your first language ask if you don't know. The majority of the time people attempting to attack that statement are English speakers who can't figure out their own language (or read more than 2 words).

      Here is a hint: Look up the word "expect' in the dictionary.

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    4. Re:Duh. But correlary by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      I just think it's funny that you talk about "disposable email accounts" and then seem to value non-AC accounts, as there's any real difference...

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    5. Re:Duh. But correlary by s.petry · · Score: 1

      So you do understand the word "expect", but instead of asking me why I would not be as willing to converse with an unknown person who will remain anonymous you insert your own reasoning. You are really no better off with this statement than your first.

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    6. Re:Duh. But correlary by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      So you do understand the word "expect", but instead of asking me why I would not be as willing to converse with an unknown person who will remain anonymous you insert your own reasoning. You are really no better off with this statement than your first.

      The irony is that you fiercely guard your own pseudo-anonymity, while scorning others who seek even deeper anonymity.

      Oh, you're right, the proper English term is not 'ironic', it's 'hypocritical'. Thanks for clearing that up :)

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    7. Re:Duh. But correlary by s.petry · · Score: 1

      Having a username and using the username for well over a decade is now "anonymous", or "pseudo anonymous"? Come now, if you want to attack people at least attempt to pick a valid target. You and GP are both grasping at straws trying to defend that original attack. Failing I will add.

      Keep moving that goal post, it will be on solid ground one day right?

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  4. Google Opinion Rewards by Defenestrar · · Score: 2

    I'm generally willing to answer survey questions for a fraction of the revenue. So Google Opinion Rewards and Nielsen's TV watching logs are generally ok with me. Market research which doesn't split the value of my opinions with me will generally (but not always) get short shrift. (Note that value doesn't have to be monetary, I'll often give opinions when I think there's a chance of influencing the item in a direction beneficial to me). Passive tracking options which don't give me an option to selectively participate/abstain are DOA as far as I'm concerned (like Verizon Rewards).

    1. Re:Google Opinion Rewards by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      I keep seeing that in my verizon account ive never signed up for it as i am not sure what they get in return and the rewards don't look much like rewards at all

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    2. Re:Google Opinion Rewards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's anything like the best buy "rewards program", you get the benefit of spending thousands of dollars to get a couple dozen points. I've been a member for a decade and still have nothing to show for it. Granted I don't always run to Best Buy when I need/want something... but you would think a few appliance purchases would be worth a kick in the ass at least.

    3. Re:Google Opinion Rewards by Defenestrar · · Score: 1

      Verizon's program will track your physical location, network use, and just about any other information they can get while watching what happens to/with your smartphone and share it with anyone willing to pay for it for marketing, sales, etc... reasons. Always on, only the one large opt in with no incremental no opt out, and definitely no aggregation/anonymization.

  5. Been done by LokiSteve · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google calls it Ingress.

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  6. Gaming the system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "individuals were trying to trick the system into thinking they had accomplished tasks."

    That's always going to be a major hurtle of any such user contributed micro-payment systems, people trying to game the system to make a quick buck without actually contributing anything. Had a roommate in college who had the same mindset, it was back around the Dot-com bubble when companies were throwing money all over the place. Multiple companies trying to figure out what people were interested in were offering individuals some money to install a program on their computer which tracked their mouse movement/clicking in a web browser. You were payed by click ($0.005 or something like that) and he spent time trying to program something that would randomly click the screen without user input. I think he made a little money but then they cut him off, I don't know if they caught him, if they found out most of their data was useless because other users were doing the same, or simply went bust.

  7. Correction by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

    *some mobile users will trade data for fun and profit. But not me.

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  8. They are missing the point by guruevi · · Score: 1

    Data transfer does NOT cost money, bandwidth does. The infrastructure to handle x-amount of bandwidth has to be in place in order to handle data transfer. Limiting data transfer is an artificial method to incite people to reduce their overall bandwidth use but you're still bursting over your limits if you don't have the capacity to handle it.

    Sales people have been able to convince the populace that they need data transfer and that it is a limited resource while what they need to ask for is data bandwidth which is the resource. You can easily transfer 2GB+ wirelessly on 10-year old tech (1G/2G) in a month, providers should be able to provide at least 1G capacity if they're selling 3/4/5G no?

    Look at most colo and datacenters, you buy bandwidth (100Mbps/1Gbps) and in very few (typically low-grade) instances you buy a monthly data package (where you are able to burst to a line speed but should self-limit in order to stay within your bandwidth limits).

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  9. porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t