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Modernizing the Copyright Office

An anonymous reader writes: Joshua Simmons has written a new article discussing the growing consensus that it is time to modernize the Copyright Office. It reviews the developments that led to the last major revision of the Copyright Act; discusses Congress's focus since 1976 on narrower copyright bills, rather than a wholesale revision of U.S. copyright law, and the developments that have led to the review hearings; and considers the growing focus on Copyright Office modernization.

49 comments

  1. Pfft! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Just roll it back to its original 17 years. I want my Steamboat Willie!

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Pfft! by Anon-Admin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Roll it to 17 years, with no renewal.
      Toss the automatic copyright and go back to requiring registration to get the copyright.
      Require all software applying for copyright protection include all source code!
      When copyright runs out on software, it is the source code and the compiled work that gets released to the Public Domain.
      Take anything over 25 years old and make it public domain.
      Require any court cases dealing with violation of copyright to have the plaintiff pay all legal fees should the case be found for the diffident.

    2. Re:Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Roll it back to 60 years after the publication date, with no provision for the life of the author, which is somewhat less generous to authors than the original Copyright Act of 1976. As a practical matter (in order to pass Congress) there would have to be a transition period of about 10 years to give owners of works that are losing protection a last chance to make gobs of money from their properties.

      At the risk of sounding like Bill Gates, 60 years ought to be enough for anybody. (Without the transition period mentioned above, all works created in the USA before 1955 would now be in the public domain; works created in 1955 would be entering public domain this year). This is admittedly conservative for music recordings, but not so conservative for works of literature (e.g. novels).

      Computer software is a tricky case: what happens when IBM loses copyright protection on the original OS/360? What does that even mean, in practical terms? Would they have to release the source code?

    3. Re:Pfft! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      I wish... but the issue simply isn't important enough to enough people to make a difference.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    4. Re:Pfft! by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Require any court cases dealing with violation of copyright to have the plaintiff pay all legal fees should the case be found for the diffident.

      Whoops! That no. The little guys would get screwed by that in a hurry. Deep pockets would win that every time.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    5. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are all failing to note the difference between 'cooyright' and 'patent'. Additionally it's clear that though some of you may be in the tech sector, none of you are creative proffessionals. Until it's ok for me yo take credit and compensation for the hard work you do at your job, I think this could safelybe dubbed a straw man argument. The reason there hasn't been this type of reform is because the logic of its opponents comes straight out of the brain of a caveman, it's just plain lazy, aggressive, and entitled. Patents are one thing, and there could be reform there, but keep your dirty mitts off of my rights to my own creative work. And yes, I do deserve to benefit from my work as long as I live, and yes, my family has a right to be my beneficiaries, just as with any other job. Steamboat Willy being off limits is not bringing technological innovation to its knees.

    6. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boilerplate bullshit! Not interested...

    7. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you have picked a worse example than Gates? Everything the man did was based on 'borrowed' work, and the fact that he gained great wealth is hardly commensurate with advancing anything (you may or may not be too young to know the Windows era is commonly referred to as the 'dark ages of computing'. That isn't because it was a long time ago, it's because the Gates-led Microsoft had the industry in a choke hold with their ass backward tech and illegal business practices). He does not get to decide this for me. He's a hypocrite, he'd go into seizures if someone tried to absolve him of his wealth.

    8. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gates' name was used in reference to his famous quote (which he denies making) "640K (memory in a PC) ought to be enough for anybody". Not for anything else he did.

    9. Re: Pfft! by hackwrench · · Score: 1, Troll

      If someone could explain what "creative professionals" actually do to come by the stuff they churn out, then maybe non"creative professionals" would care about it.

      Also, what is this "hard work" you speak of? Maybe you should switch to some work you find easier to do, and let people who find the type of work you are doing now easy, take over.

    10. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone could explain what "creative professionals" actually do to come by the stuff they churn out, then maybe non"creative professionals" would care about it.

      Also, what is this "hard work" you speak of? Maybe you should switch to some work you find easier to do, and let people who find the type of work you are doing now easy, take over.

      Fuck you, you arrogant ignoramus.

    11. Re: Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask Les Claypool at the next family reunion.

    12. Re: Pfft! by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but we're not that closely related. Besides, I don't think he'd have an answor for me. They never do.

    13. Re: Pfft! by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      All that means is that you don't actually know.

    14. Re:Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if that's something people actually wanted, we've managed to force our system into treaties with nearly every other country of importance. That's going to make it much harder to change.

    15. Re:Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The issue is plenty important enough. It's not easy to understand or make emotional appeals.

    16. Re:Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm fine with automatic copyright.

      Toss out software patents though. Toss out first to apply instead of first to make.

    17. Re:Pfft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO NOT 60 years, NOT 17 years but 5 years non-renewable.
      Everything over 10 yesrs old becomes public domain permanently.
      Copyright expires when a work is no longer available worldwide, if it is less than 10 years old.
      Software becomes non-patentable, and it (and the source code) becomes public domain after 5 years or when it is no longer supported by the author whichever is shorter.

    18. Re:Pfft! by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      A compromise on the length argument is a registration fee, that is exponential. So, having copyright for a year might be a buck or two. Having it for 5 years might be a few hundred. Having it for 10 might be a few million. Having it for 15 might start to go into the billions range. That can obviously be tuned and tweaked. The point is that copyright is a public sacrifice and should be done for public benefit. Companies can decide how valuable that renewal is and let it go or buy in.

  2. My opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see a modification. To limit music and video, and I mean just music and video media, not lyrics, etc., to have the copyright shortened to 30 years. But the storyline, ideas, etc., would still be subject to the current status quo.

    Why? I just want it easier for TV shows to get released and shown on the air. Plus, after 30 years, does music still really need that much protection?

  3. Berne Convention by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

    They should take into account that copyright is assigned automatically under the Berne Convention and any registration functions the Copyright Office performs are redundant. Even in cases of legal dispute, the first person to have registered the copyright on a particular work might not have been the first person to actually create it, so it's of limited value there too.

  4. power grab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Librarian of Congress James Billington to retire in January. He has often been a voice of reason. But with his announcement there is a movement to move the Copyright Office out of the LOC and make it independent.
    http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/digital/copyright/article/67092-plan-for-independent-copyright-office-meets-resistance.html
    CODE Act (Copyright Office for the Digital Economy) is a power grab by publishers' groups. Don't be fooled.

  5. Copyright Office by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Underfunded, antiquated infrastructure, politicized bureaucracy. Yea, that's something everyone can agree needs to be fixed. Wait, what part of the executive branch are we talking about?

  6. Abolish Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for every time the mouse threatens to go out of copyright, copyright gets extended.

    Honestly, it's about enriching society by funding the creator, not his heirs, so any death+N years is silly.

  7. time for Trans-Pacific Partnership changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't worry, the TPP will get rid of that antiquated mostly-US notion that the first person to create something should own it and harmonise away that fuction of the Copyright Office. https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

    This is just some PR flack's attempt to pretend there is grassroots support for the letting the TPP gut what few copyright protections the U.S. still has left that favor the independent inventor over corporate behemoths.

    1. Re:time for Trans-Pacific Partnership changes by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      This is just some PR flack's attempt to pretend there is grassroots support for the letting the TPP gut what few copyright protections the U.S. still has left that favor the independent inventor over corporate behemoths.

      I think you might be confusing patents with copyrights there buddy, they're a very different animal.

      And I mean the other side of the debate is that long term ownership of particular copyrighted works stops exactly nobody from creating their own copyrighted works. This comment for example, is owned by me, copyright is automatically assigned. There's even some boilerplate above stating exactly as much. My comment may have zero financial value but I can still claim the same remedies as Disney should someone infringe on it. How is that hurting the small artist?

    2. Re:time for Trans-Pacific Partnership changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because creativity doesn't exist in a vacuum. Every artist builds off what came before; adapting, expanding, remixing. Even your comment which you claim copyright on, blockquotes the parent comment. That makes it a derivative work, and muddies the determination of ownership of the copyright, should it ever have any financial value. Then there's the problem of orphan works. If in 10 years your there is suddenly a demand for reproductions of your post and Intrepid imaginaut can't be located, how does keeping it locked up benefit either you or the potential audience for your work? A shorter term for unregistered copyright with non-automatic, extensions requiring registration would be a much better system for everyone, but unfortunately it will never happen. Instead we're moving slowly but surely towards a regime of unending copyrights with no public domain.

    3. Re:time for Trans-Pacific Partnership changes by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      That makes it a derivative work

      No, and this is well established in copyright law. You can write a story with elves, orcs, goblins, trolls and so on and the Tokien estate can't come after you. Many have. In fact there's a whole movie sub-industry that is built on skirting as close to legal infringement as possible, and it's not going anywhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Further the person who takes a photograph of a famous painting owns copyright on that photograph. The creator of an audiobook owns copyrights on that audiobook, although if made without permission the writer may have grounds to pursue for damages. http://www.mediamusicnow.co.uk...

      Then there's the problem of orphan works. If in 10 years your there is suddenly a demand for reproductions of your post and Intrepid imaginaut can't be located, how does keeping it locked up benefit either you or the potential audience for your work?

      Well no system is perfect. I support creative people who put their work into the public domain and condemn things like criminal sentencing for non-profit sharing, and especially attempts to extend the meaning of "derivative", but I'm not seeing any reduction in artistic endeavours over the last few decades. Quite the opposite.

      Instead we're moving slowly but surely towards a regime of unending copyrights with no public domain.

      Again though, does that hinder or inspire creativity?

    4. Re:time for Trans-Pacific Partnership changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever noticed that art tends to go though "periods" and have "genres?" If copyright only covered exact duplication, it might be tolerable, but good luck developing concepts like "rock-and-roll," or "impressionism" in an environment where making something inspired by something else is illegal.

  8. Better registration? U.S. price raised $35 to $55. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    The copyright office in the U.S. recently raised its prices for copyright registration enormously. If you submit 2 short articles, that is a now called a "compilation", and the price is raised from $35 to $55, even though the total may be only 2 or 3 pages.

    Also, the U.S. Copyright Office takes months to respond, makes frequent mistakes, and has a web site that is in some ways poorly written.

    Can you recommend a copyright office in another country?

  9. It's a trap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All they will do is narrow the definition of fair use and change lifetime of author/artist to lifetime of company.

  10. I'm sorry to inform you... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 0

    We can't modernize the copyright office, because the modern office is copyrighted.

  11. Re: Better registration? U.S. price raised $35 to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you bother to register? It's not like it gets you anything besides the right to sue in federal court, and if you're doing that, I can't see how it would matter whether it was $35 or $55 or $550.

  12. Embarrassment galore! by American+Patent+Guy · · Score: 1

    Folks: the Copyright Office has no enforcement powers. All it is is a repository for registrations of claims of copyrights. Modernizing the copyright office is like modernizing the drivers license division of a state: it doesn't affect who is allowed to drive (assuming that it performs competently either way.) It is not the DL division that enforces the driving laws, it is the police and the courts. Same thing for the Copyright Office; a registration improves a plaintiff's claim, but that claim still has to be made in federal court.

    The author of that article (Mr. Simmons) summarizes together a lot of past and suggested reforms. Why he does that I don't know, for restructuring and/or refinancing the Copyright Office won't change the law nor change anyone's rights.

    Finally, those of you who promote shortening the copyright period of works in existence: get over it, it ain't a-gonna change. The takings clause of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution would require that everyone who had a shortened copyright would have to be compensated justly, and that would clog up the courts beyond imagination. Congress may be foolish sometimes, but it ain't that stupid! Now if you want to talk about shortening the term of copyrights that originate in the future, that's different...

    1. Re: Embarrassment galore! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you imagine having to wait a year and a half for a driver's license?

    2. Re:Embarrassment galore! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shortening the period would not require "compensated justly", any more than when patents are appropriated.

      Second, the "compensated justly" could just as easily be designated as $0.

    3. Re:Embarrassment galore! by james_gnz · · Score: 1

      The takings clause of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution would require that everyone who had a shortened copyright would have to be compensated justly, and that would clog up the courts beyond imagination.

      It would seem to me that, this being the case, the Government would also have to compensate everyone effected by the retroactive extension of copyright terms.

  13. Re: Better registration? U.S. price raised $35 to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Among other things, the possibility of attorney's fees and statutory damages, as well as import controls at the border.

  14. Re: Better registration? U.S. price raised $35 t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    US Customs, yes. Though hardly anyone actually bothers. Certainly not someone who worries about a $20 change in the official registration fees.

    Attorneys' fees and statutory damages? Sounds like you're in federal court. Meaning you had to have registered the copyright in the first place, so those aren't good reasons to register. You do understand that I could have created something 1 day after Berne implementation, wait still another, say, 50 more years, and _then_ register it so I can sue you and possibly recover fees and statutory damages, right?

  15. maybe not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, you might think so. Australia does have this sort of a law in place, it is not specific to copyright. In any sort of a civil suit the looser pays all legal fees (so you don't also sue for legal costs, you get that anyway.) This seems to prevent a lot of bullshit cases ever coming out at all. Australia is still waiting to see if anyone will try any of this rubbish where you try and sue masses of people for downloading movies on torrents. It looks like this Dallas Buyers Club mob may go through with it. The real danger for any company trying this is that they could stand to loose a shitload of money trying it - surprisingly good lawyers will work on a no win no fee service where a defendant has a good chance as they do know they can get whatever fee they want should they win and the plaintiff will have to pay up.
      You don't get so many terribly frivolous lawsuits when you know you will pay whatever vaguely justifiable legal fee the defending lawyer comes up with when you loose. It makes it harder to grind someone into the dirt with your expensive lawyers when you have to pay for the other parties lawyer who is free for the defendant until such time as the battle is over. Of course a little defendant loosing can easily be bankrupt by this process - makes it somewhat pointlessly expensive to do though as you don't recoup your legal fees from a defendant you bankrupt with high legal fees.

  16. Copyright changes necessary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Orphaned works are unprotected until someone claims and proves ownership
    2) Copyright lasts 5 years from first publication.
    3) Extended copyright must be for a work substantially changed from the original to be a new work derived from the original and noted as derived.
    4) Software copyright lasts as long as support lasts for the software
    5) Source code must be supplied for copyright to apply to the binary
    6) Encrypted or DRM'd works must be available unencrypted and unlocked for release after copyright ends, or copyright no longer applies
    7) That which is copyrighted is not covered by any other intellectual property laws

    (patent change: software that is patented must be supplied in "blueprint" form, source code of a working product)

  17. Wish list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Limited term means something finite. Certainly 99 years is the absolute maximum that would qualify as limited, but the copyright 'bargain' demands something shorter, which is more in concert with providing incentive to the author, not profits to the conglomerate. This should bring a great many works into the public domain.

    2) A copy means the ability for one person at a time to use it. (Aside from a case like someone reading aloud to others.) Consumers doing more than this are not playing fair. Rights holders preventing that, likewise are not playing fair. This should make moving from one media to another by consumers fair. Disabling technical copy protection mechanisms, where necessary, to accomplish this should be fair.

    3) No double dipping. A rights owner can sell a copy, but not also encumber it with a license. Alternatively, he can license it, but not use Copyright to protect the work. Pick your poison, but not both.

    4) Penalties need to be commenserate with the actual crime. 10x the economic gain seems reasonable. Penalty needs to work both ways for false claims of copyright ownership as in DCMA takedowns. Putting ones life at risk with penalty, as in swatting, seems extreme.

    5) Orphoned works need a simple clearing house for becoming public.

    At the current, electorate permitted, price of Congress, I won't hold my breath.

  18. Re: Better registration? U.S. price raised $35 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to register within three months of publication or before infringement begins to get attorneys fees and statutory damages. In your example, they would not be available to you.

  19. There is no copyright law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copyright law became null and void when Disney suspended public domain.

    They have reneged on their side of the social contract... there is no reason for us to uphold ours.

  20. Re:Copyrights are for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  21. Earlier expiration by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    Copyright needs to expire much earlier. Whoever creates content should have her or his creative investment protected, but that's it. Not their heirs and the heirs of their heirs or some company that exists only as a PO box in the Bermudas who holds copyrights for gazillion things and employs an army of sleazy lawyers. And while we are at it, have patents expire much earlier as well. It works for healthcare, after a few years of cashing in generics are allowed and drive down the price.