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German Scientists Confirm NASA's Controversial EM Drive

MarkWhittington writes: Hacked Magazine reported that a group of German scientists believe that they have confirmed that the EM Drive, the propulsion device that uses microwaves rather than rocket fuel, provides thrust. The experimental results are being presented at the American Institute for Aeronautics and Astronautics' Propulsion and Energy Forum in Orlando by Martin Tajmar, a professor and chair for Space Systems at the Dresden University of Technology. Tajmar has an interest in exotic propulsion methods, including one concept using "negative matter."

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  1. Excellent news! by areusche · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the type of news I want to see more of. Between all of the pointless social narcissism platforms and SJW Bs this is enlightening news. I am excited to see what discoveries will be made. And if it turns out to be bunk, well who cares that's science!

  2. Re: Looking more and more likely all the time... by Megol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eh... The physics mechanisms proposed ARE very controversial! The classic physics mechanism simply shouldn't work and the quantum physics proposal are far off speculations that aren't likely to be true.

    But the amount of experimental verification from separate sources indicates that either there is some factor they all forgot or that there are new physics at play. I hope for the last alternative :)

  3. Re:Blimey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A propulsion device that provides thrust without using reaction mass would be an earth-shattering advance, assuming the amount of thrust is non-negligible. I hope you do get that.

  4. Re: Looking more and more likely all the time... by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Modern physics is never incorrect. Although it can be misunderstood at times. In the same way that relativity does NOT disprove Newton it confirms it, but extends it. Who would have thought that a little denominator with square root 1-(v squared / c squared) was missing, especially since if v = 0 then the whole denominator ends up being one...which means that all previous laws are valid exactly as they are. Science is not about great schisms where meanings and understandings are suddenly reversed from one generation to the next. That's politics and religion. Science is about progress, with every additional step necessarily building on the steps that were before it. Of course sometimes when you're standing a few steps higher up you get a better overall view of your surroundings and realize that maybe you were misinterpreting a few things before but now you understand them perfectly... until someone comes and puts another little step under your feet and you can see even further...

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
  5. Re:Blimey by ebrandsberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You aren't following what he is saying--the research is saying is that THERE IS NO REACTION MASS. Per current physics, this device can't exist. That is why this is so big. No current physics explains it. It is not the opposite of a solar said, since the microwaves don't actual exit the device. If this device works, it does change everything, if only to point to new physics.

  6. Re:Blimey by ganv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which is exactly why this should be presented as a breakthrough in physics with the standards of verification and publication used in physics rather than announced as a way to propel rockets. Using the standards of a breakthrough in physics, they have an anomalous experiment. Now they need to replicate it under more idealized conditions and then we'll evaluate whether to give them a Nobel Prize. Almost certainly this anomalous experiment will turn out to be an experimental error or misinterpretation since the theory of conservation of momentum they are claiming to violate is so extremely well corroborated.