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DHI Group Inc. Announces Plans to Sell Slashdot Media

An anonymous reader writes: DHI Group Inc. (formerly known as Dice Holdings Inc.) announced plans to sell Slashdot Media (slashdot.org & sourceforge.net) in their Q2 financial report. This is being reported by multiple sources. Editor's note: Yep, looks like we're being sold again. We'll keep you folks updated, but for now I don't have any more information than is contained in the press release. Business as usual until we find a buyer (and hopefully after). The company prepared a statement for our blog as well — feel free to discuss the news here, there, or in both places.

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  1. Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Kunedog · · Score: 3, Insightful
    For me, the three* agendas of this /. regime that best demonstrate how out-of-touch it's been with the users (if not outright saying "fuck you" to them) are:

    1. ramrodding of Beta down everyone's throats
    2. shameful attempt to ignore Gamergate (still not a single article on /. covering the journalism scandal, when there should have been at least one for each of a dozen or so events/milestones), and later (after the cover-up and news blackout didn't work) joining the campaign to intimidate and libel those who spoke out against the corruption
    3. constant stories about women being less represented in STEM vs. the general population, with analysis of the cause always limited to accusations of sexism (and devoid of analysis of innate female preferences, or corporate agendas designed to inflate the workforce)
    * Honorable mention for Bennett Haselton

    The Company, however, has not successfully leveraged the Slashdot user base to further Dice's digital recruitment business

    I, for one, am damn proud you were also unable to "leverage" the user base against Gamergate in order to protect corrupt journalists and fall in line with rest of the colluding outlets who tried to cover up the scandal and smear the dissenters (fuck knows why you thought it was a good idea to try). Countless other forums outright banned pro-GG discussion, and Slashdot's long history of user moderation and fierce opposition to censorship must have been a much-needed thorn in your side.

    1. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fuck your gamergate. Nobody even knows what it's about except for a bunch of people trying to make it more mainstream than it is. It's not important. It doesn't affect actual (pro e-sport or casual) gamers. It's nothing, and it's NOT worthy of news.

    2. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pretty much. The quality of articles seems to have gone down significantly, with a very strong bias towards pushing "synergy" with the rest of Dice. They weren't even subtle about it, either. Add to that the whole clusterfuck debacle with them trying to push Beta...

    3. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by LaurenCates · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As someone who ends up on the side of the pro-GG side of the argument more often than not, I can't imagine that Gamergate is all that important to anyone that far removed from either the people directly affected or anyone willing to jump in and be a part of it.

      In fact, the reason I ended up doing any research on the matter at all is because another site I frequent tends to use terms like "Gamergater" as a derogatory term without any context as a reminder that we're supposed to think of that guy as bad (much the same way that "MRA" is used and misused) and thus disregard any opinions that the accused has for fear of catching the plague.

      So I researched it. I had to do more work than I wanted to, really, particularly in proportion to how big it is. And it's not big. It's a teeny-tiny little world that to escape, all I have to do is browse away from any site talking about it and it's gone from my sight.

      Point being, I'm actually quite glad that Slashdot didn't add Gamergate to the stinking, festering pile of identity politics it already took upon itself to be responsible for.

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    4. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. The complaints about beta I felt were misplaced. They shouldn't have made the beta default for anyone (and perhaps they should have refined it just a little more first...) but I think Slashdotters seriously overreacted to what was an easy to opt-out of test of a new UI. (And frankly, with D1 broken - thanks Pudge - and D2 horrible, I was looking forward to someone doing something about the /. UI.)

      2. I'm pretty sure that if they'd covered GamerGate in depth, you'd - based upon what you've written here - been so unhappy you'd never have come back.

      3. I go the other way - there was a failure to ensure discussions wouldn't be derailed by trolls and anti-diversity fanatics, especially in the aftermath of a somewhat extreme anti-diversity campaign in one corner of tech. Slashdot's articles were of interest to some of us, unfortunately the massive wave of abusive moderation and anti-diversity crapflooders meant we couldn't have an adult discussion about the issues.

      Where we agree however is that, much as I'm reluctant to attack anyone by name, the types of articles that were posted by Haselton were never right for Slashdot.

      Haselton wasn't even the first time they did this. Real Slashdotters remember a guy called Jon Katz who Malda brought in largely to introduce original commentary - just like Haselton. It was a disaster. Slashdotters became increasingly annoyed by the posts, just as with Haselton.

      Why did Slashdot do it again? No idea. I'm guessing they thought it might be worth a try again, perhaps thinking it was Katz, not this kind of commentary, people disliked.

      As an aside, when I used to blog more actively, people (nobody working for Slashdot I might add) asked me if I should offer to write similar pieces for Slashdot et al. Leaving aside my appalling writing skills, this is why...

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    5. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nobody even knows what it's about except for a bunch of people trying to make it more mainstream than it

      Like the fucking mainstream press? If the mainstream press wouldn't continue to keep gamedropping and featuring the con artists involved, gamergate would have disappeared last year. But it continues to draw the clicks, so it keeps showing up in just about every story having to do with video games. Which is just fine, because the longer it goes on, the more people are red pilled and SJW's and their press lackeys continue to lose their grip on The Narrative, kek.

    6. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. The complaints about beta I felt were misplaced. They shouldn't have made the beta default for anyone (and perhaps they should have refined it just a little more first...) but I think Slashdotters seriously overreacted to what was an easy to opt-out of test of a new UI. (And frankly, with D1 broken - thanks Pudge - and D2 horrible, I was looking forward to someone doing something about the /. UI.)

      I agree with you on #2 and #3 but disagree on the issue of Slashdot Beta. Slashdot beta was part of an industrywide UX antipattern. It goes something like this.

      1) You have a functional site or application and a large userbase.
      2) You hire some UXtards whose job it is to change things for change's sake.
      3) The UXtards implement changes like those involved in Digg v3. GNOME 3. Firefox 4-without-the-status bar through Australis inclusive. Windows 8. Google Maps. And, of course, Slashdot beta.
      4) The users revolt.
      5) The devs' jobs depend on constantly learning new frameworks/tech and polishing up their resumes for their next job. The UXtard's job depends on implementing "the vision." The UX manager's career relies on not having the UX redesign project fail. The CEO's career depends on monetization, and he/she is told by the CTO and VPs of engineering that the UX redesign is part and parcel of this. Everywhere along the chain of command, somebody's personal career goals are in direct conflict with the overwhelming negative user feedback.
      6) Everyone in the chain of command issues patronizing puff pieces and blog posts with verbiage like "we're making it better for you!" which are intended to placate the userbase, but which only anger it more, because the users aren't that stupid.
      7) The user feedback is ignored, pageviews/clicks/marketshare, and revenue, plummets.
      8) Nobody gets fired, because everybody was just doing their jobs / covering their asses. Devs implemented the UX team's spec and got to play with cool tech. UX team got buy-in from marketing. Marketing had orders from C-suite. C-suite wanted to monetize. Everybody gets their paycheck, even if all they accomplished was ruining the underlying asset.

      It has happened over and over and over again, and seems to be the hallmark of this decade in tech: take a working project, rip out everything useful in order to make it "cleaner" or "simpler," ignore overwhelming feedback until long after the damage to the asset or brand is permanent, pretend nothing was ever wrong in the first place, liquidate.

    7. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by fightinfilipino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      that's because Gamergate wasn't about ethics in game journalism, hilarious memes be damned. it was PRECISELY about white men continuing to be gatekeepers against gaming opening up to other people, including women. in sum, get your paranoid persecution complex out of here.

    8. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Jodka · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason for this decision is that the Slashdot Media business no longer aligns with the broader DHI strategy, which has been refined to focus on providing digital recruitment tools and services to connect employers and recruiters with talent in multiple professional communities.

      What that means in plain English is that DHI thought they could use this place as a jobs board until they noticed that companies want to hire productive employees who do actual work instead of wasting time on Slashdot.

         

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    9. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Holi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a reason no one defended the idiot gamergate punks. You guys made sure you were indefensible. When no one called out the threats and the doxing you proved you had no moral leg to stand on. Not to mention that most of your allegations were proved false. It was your own actions that drowned out your words.

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    10. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by DarkOx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to agree. Not giving more than occasion coverage to game gate was about the most journalisticly responsible thing Slashdot could have done.

      GG is and never was anything more than a bunch of self righteous and self important bloggers on both sides spewing lies and distortions. There is so much bad information that really can't be fact checked out there it isn't possible its not possible to write an intelligent article on the subject let alone have a discussion about.

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    11. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It has happened over and over and over again, and seems to be the hallmark of this decade in tech: take a working project...

      ...and that's where I have the problem, because really, I think D2 is terrible, and D1 is far too ridden with bugs and limitations that exist because /. was once running on a 386 in Malda's closet over a 14.4 modem.

      Of course, there's a good case to be made that the existing code base should just be fixed, namely:

      - Remove sillier numeric limits for D1.
      - Unicode. It's 2015, there's no excuse. Page widening is not a problem with CSS's max-width. - Some CSS clean up.

      Which would probably not take anything like as much time as Beta was going to, but, oh well...

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    12. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Aighearach · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The "ethics" complaint is already known to have been a lie, based on rumors. There is no substance to the accusation itself. Even if you believe the accusation, the only thing to believe is that some people believe a rumor about somebody's personal life. That isn't ethics, and doesn't involve journalism. That you're still trotting out the lie, yes that really does raise questions about your true motives. Especially when there are lots of examples of serious, serious ethical violations in attacking people seen as being "on the other side." Simply saying it isn't you, while standing next to them and repeating the same lies about it, that isn't going to convince anybody of what you want to convince them. People do learn from it though, sure.

      And since when is social justice a bad thing? It is just laughable when people think "social justice warrior" is an insult. You do know that justice is good, right? And that people who fight for something good are seen as... good people?

    13. Re:Everybody List What You Think Went Wrong by Aighearach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      4. Ramrodding CO2 = pollution stories down everyone's throats without ever addressing the facts and science of the other side of the debate, instead focusing on personal attacks as defence.

      Plus the average slashdotter probably uses ad blocking which makes their advertising model not work very well.

      You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.

      If you disbelieve facts and call it an opinion, don't hold your breath waiting for people to want to "debate" it.

      BTW, this is exactly what puts the "coward" in "anonymous coward." You admit to being a regular, and yet you don't have the courage to use your own pseudonym.

  2. Now it's Zoidberg's turn! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a website read by NERDS, not people wearing business suits.

    If you want to make money with this website, don't do the same stupid mistakes as DHI Group Inc.

    Keep the news and topics nerds-related. Make sure you have nerds on your staff to manage the website and keep your hands off everything.

  3. Kickstarter? by moosehooey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe we can buy it and make it not-for-profit or something. Does anyone know how much they're asking?

  4. Sugar Daddies? by Hartree · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, any of you Slashdot geeks won the lottery lately and have lotsa money you don't know what to do with?

    Just think, you could be the new hero riding in on your shining horse to save us all! (Until we all become disillusioned with you, and we'll flame you like we have everyone else. :) )

  5. assumed it would. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Beta is awful, thats just a fact of life and so many others have confirmed it in this thread. Among other reasons this turd is being sent to auction:

    s/audience/community. you did that to yourselves, you could have undone it any time you wanted to. we're respected professionals, not a captive audience. we are intelligent enough to run this site. and many, many others like it.

    slashvertisements. how much more do you need to milk from this site. Theres a reason people put "slashdot without adblock is awful" in their sigs. we never asked for videos.

    The layout has gone to shit. Look at soylentnews.org, now back at yourself, now back at soylentnews. note how soylent listened to its users and implemented SSL? they never added tags, they never forced new icons for every iota of topic, and nobody pushed like and share on all social media abilities.

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  6. Re:Ya think, DiNozzo? by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As bad as what they did to Slashdot has been, I feel Sourceforge got shafted far, far worse.

    I mean, the Slashvertisements and other abortive attempts to ram Dice content down our throats really weren't all that surprising. If anything, the only surprise was that they thought it work in the first place, especially given how ham-handed they were about doing it.

    With Sourceforge, however, they were basically caught injecting malware/crapware into downloads. That's about as shady as it gets, and it's going to be extremely hard to get anyone to trust code from there in the future. It would be like... I don't know, maybe if Slashdot was discovered to have been running disinformation/propaganda campaigns for the government/intelligence agencies or something that were paying Dice for it.

  7. Re:My $.02 by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the price? The community could conceivably use some crowd-funding platform and everyone could pitch in $5 if they wanted to. I would imagine that ads could cover most of the hosting and bandwidth expenses and the community can just take turns filling the editor role such that the ongoing costs should be minimal. Anything extra could always go towards supporting open source development efforts.

  8. Re:I hope they don't fire the editors by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, for one, think the editors will welcome they're new non-DICE overlords. Let's hope for everyone's sake, this idea catches on.

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  9. Re:My $.02 by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seems like it would be cheaper to just stand up your own Slashcode server and call it NextDot or something. I'd rather spend the money on hosting than give it to Dice.

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  10. Re:Can the new buyer be worse than DICE? by Donkey_Hotey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure it could. HuffPoo, anybody?

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  11. Buy a small lake, by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    then piss in it every day for three years or so, and invite your corporate buddies to do the same. Wonder why fewer and fewer people come by for a swim, and why you can't make any money from fishing in the lake. Sell it, probably at a loss, and move on to your next 'conquest'. Way to go Dice!

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  12. Re:Can the new buyer be worse than DICE? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Watch Fox News buy it and bring back myspace."

    Worse, Slate could buy it, trying out a succession of new commenting systems that don't work properly. At the end the first year, we'll be wishing we had Beta back.

  13. Re:Eventuality? by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hint:

    An article about yet-another-buyout / possible closedown of the site gets 150-ish comments, most of them crowing on how bad DHI have treated us.

    I'm pretty low-numbered nowadays, yet I used to be the "newbie" on here.

    The Reg gets more comments per article and has a lot more articles. Even SoylentNews gets not-much-less than Slashdot does and that's basically a startup Slash-clone.

    Site is not what it was, it would be quite a trick to bring it back now.

  14. Re:Can the new buyer be worse than DICE? by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That was the `80s Bill. I think he has actual hobbies now, like fighting malaria and ruining education.

  15. Re:Can the new buyer be worse than DICE? by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Yay! It will either get better, or finally die.

    That is NOT the only option. It could get worse AND stick around for a very long time.

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  16. Re:You just described SoylentNews. by myrdos2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have to admit, your post does sound a little, well, angry and extremist.

    How about letting your users go there and see for themselves just how "extremist" it is?

    Do... do we have some way of stopping them?

    People don't get modded out of the community. They may be modded down, like here, but SN doesn't permaban people for expressing unpopular opinion like Slashdot does.

    I think what he meant is that people get tired of being modded down all the time and leave.

    What I can say is that a lot of the assertions you are making are bullshit, and you should leave it up to the few remaining non-corporate-sockpuppet users you have to decide for themselves.

    Now you have to admit, this smells of extremism. The hostility. The defensiveness. The strong emotional statements that don't seem based in reality. OTOH, I'm almost certainly a corporate shill who can be ignored? Because Slashdot.

  17. Re:Our value is community. Not the broken site. by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) No, that's completely wrong. Think about that one a bit harder.
    2) You'll find this is the situation with moderators pretty much everywhere in real life; you must be young
    3) Also wrong, and obviously so; you know very well posting to a thread you moderated will undo the moderation, and frankly it matters very little since moderation can't completely remove any posts.
    4) You'll find this is also true of the internet in general.
    5) You'll find the distinction between these two types of posts is only clear if you're the one who posted it. This is a universal constant of society too; nothing to do with slashcode.
    6) You didn't think this one out very carefully either, obviously.
    7) See #6. What, do you think getting all your friends to help gang up and moderate some poor sucker's post to -1000 is gonna actually help this situation any? Careful... your hidden agenda is showing...
    8) see #5
    9) Seriously? all your complaints above and you actually still think someone is gonna use a "disagree" moderation when they can call it a troll or flamebait? you said yourself there's no accountability.... come on. if you want to actually address problems you have to actually think out your "solutions" to their logical conclusion. Even if you could enforce use of "disagree" moderation, there's absolutely no sane world where disagreeing with someone's post should be justification for being allowed to moderate it. In fact, quite the opposite; what your suggestion creates here is called a "conflict of interest." At best, this suggestion doesn't change anything at all and just adds server load and development costs. At worst, it actually causes/exacerbates a problem you claim to care about; that legitimate posts are unfairly moderated down.
    10) I'm not even sure what you mean by this. The moderator points are assigned clearly by past behavior. Don't post anonymously so much and you'll get more moderator points to spend. Simple. This point also appears to be wrong, but Its possible I just don't understand what you mean, or you meant to type something else.

    And then we have:

    11) I guess I don't know about any delays, but my guess is its a server-load/hosting-cost issue. Not all ACs are going to be the honorable gentlemen you envision them to be; many of them are actually trying to crash or infect Slashdot's servers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. In the real world, I can't imagine any high profile website that allows users to post content anonymously without any sort of throttle whatsoever. You must not maintain web software for a living.
    12) Ok this one you're right about, and I actually agree with you. Someone clearly needs to brush up on their understanding of character sets and regular expressions, because the data handling of this text field is so amateur-hour 1996. Its pretty embarrassing to see it still behaving the same exact way in 2015. They should have put development man-hours into fixing this first, instead of that whole "Slashdot Beta" boondoggle.
    13) God help us all if you actually get your way on this one. The rest of us would rather NOT see every single user's stupid rich-content banner-ad signature. I'm certain the signature character limit was specifically chosen to prohibit the ability for the signatures to carry a Google tracking tag. Your other opinions might just be misguided, but this one makes me suspect you're actually a bad person, who seeks to do harm on those around him.

    And of course...

    14) Ok, I agree here too. The editing sucks. At least they could fix obvious typos and grammatical errors, missing links, outright inaccuracies, etc. Its pretty clear most of them take zero pride in their work, or else their parents just didn't discipline them enough as children.
    15) No, the firehose is there so all submissions are visible by the users. If you think its a waste of time just don't use it. Nobody ever implied you should in the first place. Your lack of self control isn't a justification for removing

  18. Re:Our value is community. Not the broken site. by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Disagree != misunderstand.

    Nice advertisement in your signature.

  19. Re:Our value is community. Not the broken site. by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    NO. Just no.

    I agree with you about the stupid character set problem and the need for better editors/editing, but almost everything else you complain about is actually what makes moderation here vastly superior to just about any other site. It's certainly not perfect, and there are perhaps tweaks to be done to moderation, but if we did what you suggest, it would completely fill the site with crap posts and allow the moderation to be gamed as on every other internet site.

    Most of your complaints could be solved by not posting AC and by contributing positively to the site (and thus getting good karma). If users can't be bothered to do that, I don't want to see their posts. I only want to see an AC if it's a really superior post, so the default moderation levels are about right. Again, it's not perfect, but it's superior to most sites and to almost everything you're proposing.

  20. Re:Our value is community. Not the broken site. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot only needs some slight tweaks to get back to being excellent again.

    1. 1 minute between posts
    2. User names of people who moderated a post listed
    3. Lower bar to entry for getting mod points, because at the moment you have to choose between commenting freely and gaming the system to get mod points
    4. Get rid of the share button

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