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Ask Slashdot: Why Is the Caps Lock Key Still So Prominent On Keyboards?

Esther Schindler writes: The developers at .io are into tracking things, I guess. In any case, a few weeks back they decided to track team performance in terms of keyboard and mouse activity during the working day. They installed a simple Chrome plugin on every Macbook and collected some statistics. For instance, developers have fewer keypresses than editors and managers—around 4k every day. Managers type more than 23k characters per day. And so on. Some pretty neat statistics.

But the piece that jumped out at me was this: "What's curious—the least popular keys are Capslock and Right Mouse Button. Somewhere around 0.1% of all keypresses together. It's time to make some changes to keyboards." I've been whining about this for years. Why is it that the least-used key on my keyboard is not just in a prominent position, but also bigger than most other keys? I can I invest in a real alternate keyboard with a different layout (my husband's a big fan of the Kinesis keyboards, initially to cope with carpal tunnel). But surely it's time to re-visit the standard key layout? What keys would you eliminate or re-arrange?

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  1. Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Capslock key inherited the position occupied by the Shift-Lock key. Some keyboards still mark it as shift-lock. In the old mechanical typewriters, the shift lock actually moved the entire framework holding the rack of all the levers that held the letters. It required considerable force to push.

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    1. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I wish it still behaved as shift-lock: affecting all characters, not just letters. When I use caps lock, it's almost always because I'm typing an environment variable or #defined constant. And that means I'm going to be typing lots of _ characters. If caps lock behaved like shift lock, I wouldn't have to press shift for every one of them.

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    2. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by SEE · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was reverted because, as computers started systematically replacing the typewriter in businesses (instead of being a specialist machine, like terminals), secretary-typists and the typists in corporate typing pools complained about the location of the Caps Lock key not being where they were used to it. Keyboards for computers intended for general business use accordingly swapped over, since the people who typed the most and had the strongest opinions on keyboards in the early 1980s wanted it that way.

    3. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Alas constants tend to also have a lot of digits in them, so you'd win on the underscores, but lose for the other non-alphas.

      Maybe it's time underscore was its own key anyway...

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    4. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by unrtst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe it's time underscore was its own key anyway...

      How about where the capslock is now

    5. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by bdh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      www.autohotkey.com

      For those interested in making the shift key act like a typewriter, I use this snippet. Double tap (within 500ms) either shift key, and it enables shift lock; a single tap disables it:

      Shift::
            if A_PriorHotkey = Shift
            {
                  if A_TimeSincePriorHotkey 500
                  {
                        SetCapsLockState, on
                        return
                  }
            }

            SetCapsLockState, on
            keywait, CapsLock
            SetCapsLockState, off
      return

    6. Re:Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by IcyWolfy · · Score: 4, Informative

      This would be horrible for anyone using Swiss German Keyboard Layout.
      CAPS is a separate keyboard state.
      CAPS ON, Key !== SHIFT+Key

      ü = ü
      Shift-ü = è
      CAPS ON, ü = Ü
      CAPS ON, Shift-ü = È

      Because the relevant part of the layout:
            o p ü
            k l ö ä $

      With Shift
          O P è !
          K L é à £

      Caps Lock
            O P Ü
            K L Ö Ä $

      Caps+SHIFT
            O P È !
            K L É À $

      Thus, CAPS-ON + key != Shift + key.

    7. Re: Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by tommyjcarpenter · · Score: 3, Informative

      I just asked my wife, a user, if she ever uses the CAPS key. She works for the U.S. Government. She states that all government software forms in their office are filled out in CAPS because a lot of judges and elder officials who review the documents are older and can't read normal text as well as CAPS. Obviously this is a larger, systemic problem, but to my wife who cannot control these policies, the CAPS key being in a prominent position helps her greatly. Very interesting POV!

    8. Re: Caps Lock used to power a huge lever. by Tomahawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On a UK and Irish layouts, certainly, and likely others too, the # key already has a more prominent space on the home row. For US users, it's Shift-3. For UK and Irish, Shift-3 is the pound symbol (as in £). # ("hash" for us, or "sharp", or "number" -- never "pound" or "octothorp") is a little-finger key located beside the bottom half of the enter key (which has a different shape for us than on US keyboards)

      My home row is
      capslock ASDFGHJKL;'# bottom_of_enter_key
      (the 3 keys after L with shift are :@~ )

      Putting it where caps-lock is now would be counter-productive for all most non-US keyboard users.

  2. My Pet Peeves (recent Windows laptop keyboards) by shankarunni · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. CapsLock. Grr.

    2. The numeric keypad on 15" laptops. Why? Why?! Why?!! It causes the rest of the keys to get scrunched up and moved to unnatural positions, and positions the trackpad offset left upto 3 or 4 inches, which makes for a horrible experience for a right-handed typist. The trackpad should ALWAYS be centered.

    3. But please bring back full-size Page Up/Down keys (with maybe a shift action to Begin/End). I'm looking at you, Macbook Pro! Don't run and hide..

    1. Re:My Pet Peeves (recent Windows laptop keyboards) by Noah+Haders · · Score: 4, Informative

      Num pads on a laptop are ergonomics nightmares. Better to get BT numpad.

    2. Re:My Pet Peeves (recent Windows laptop keyboards) by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's possible to have capslock functionality without giving it its own key. What about Alt-Numlock for that tiny subset of situations where it's necessary?

      Also https://xkcd.com/1172/

      (Yay I posted an XKCD at last! That means I automatically get +6 Insightful!)

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    3. Re:My Pet Peeves (recent Windows laptop keyboards) by darkain · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pretty much any technical field requires capslock. I'm a software engineer in the automotive field. Tons of code from 3rd party libraries are all caps, as well as the part numbers I deal with in the automotive industry.

      Maybe the reason why capslock is used to little is because... think about it. If my entire post were entirely in caps? Count the number of key strokes. Capslock would be pressed once to enter all-caps mode, and once to leave it. To presses of that key vs countless presses of the letters and a few other formatting symbols. Caps lock shouldn't be counted by the number of key presses any more than scroll lock or number lock. Instead they should be counted by the number of other key presses that are modified while they are activated.

  3. The power button by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey, I hardly ever press the power button, lets get rid of that one.

    Idiots

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    1. Re:The power button by Fortran+IV · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bingo. The whole point of the Caps Lock key is that you don't have to press it over and over. "...Around 0.1% of all keypresses" is a completely useless measurement. A measurement of how many other keys were pressed while the Caps Lock was on might actually mean something.

      That said, the size and placement of Caps Lock are simply a historical accident. If keyboard manufacturers wanted to halve the size and stick another key left of A, that would be fine with me. (The "context menu" key that's missing from so many keyboards these days would be a great choice.)

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    2. Re:The power button by j2.718ff · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only crap keyboards have a power button.

      The article also mentioned the right mouse button. My keyboard doesn't have one of those either.

  4. Really? by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They installed a simple Chrome plugin on every Macbook [...] the least popular keys are Capslock and Right Mouse Button"

    You don't say!

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  5. Because it toggles an LED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Old School Fun Fact: If the computer looks hung or otherwise nonresponsive, if you can toggle the caps lock LED, then the OS is still alive.

    1. Re:Because it toggles an LED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've long wanted a game where you are a wizard, and thieves steal your scrolls, unless you Scroll Lock. But then you can't use the scrolls, until you toggle it back. It would be pretty perfect.

      Scroll Lock is legitimately used in spreadsheets, but very rarely today. It's generally good that there is some modal switch anyway. It's so rare to find some future expandable slots on a keyboard, you know?

  6. It's shift for some people by spacemky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Working in IT, and frequently watching desktop users, I was surprised to learn that MANY people actually use the Caps Lock key as shift. To make a capital letter, they will turn on caps, press the letter, then turn off caps. I've see 3 people in the last year do this!

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    1. Re:It's shift for some people by kbranch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We actually recently hired a developer that does this. He asked for help when he couldn't figure out how to type capital letters on my keyboard (with caps lock remapped to control). Raised an alarm or two for me...

    2. Re:It's shift for some people by chispito · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was surprised to learn that MANY people actually use the Caps Lock key as shift.

      It's not just PEBKACs that do that. One of the world's fastest typists does this. http://seanwrona.com/typing.ph... (look under the "Typing Tips" section).

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  7. REALLY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Why Is the Caps Lock Key Still So Prominent On Keyboards?"

    HAS THE OP BEEN ON THE INTERNET AT ALL? EVER?

    Although, I do like to imagine some of the rage typists are actually holding in the [Shift] key...

  8. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just curious, what OS are you using?
    On both Windows and Linux, it's a pretty handy key.

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  9. Where's "Scroll Lock"? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't believe that "Scroll Lock" is used more often than "Caps Lock"

    >> least popular keys are...Right Mouse Button

    I'm guessing their "developers" don't actually use an IDE. Even on my Mac I use a two-button mouse just to get context-sensitive menus.

    1. Re:Where's "Scroll Lock"? by mccalli · · Score: 3, Informative

      The study was performed on a MacBook keyboard. There is no scroll lock, print screen, pause, insert, home, end, page up, page down...

      As a MacBook user myself, I actually miss the insert for shift-insert cut'n'paste on ssh sessions. Other than that, I'm fine with all the others being missing. The right-click is interesting - do they literally mean right-click, or do they mean the context-sensitive event (two fingered click on a trackpad)? On a MacBook I would have thought the second one, and I also use that a fair amount.

  10. SubjectsSuck by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can I invest in a real alternate keyboard with a different layout...

    You could also invest in a tool to remap the key next to 'A' to "Control," like God intended. You don't need to get a whole new keyboard. Write on the key with a marker if you're the kind of person that looks at key labels when you're typing.

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  11. Obligatory bash.org by Junta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://bash.org/?835030

    That aside, just don't screw with things. You mention caps lock, which I don't use, but any change is likely to just screw with muscle memory and not have any practical benefit except as some symbolic gesture against caps lock. For example, see second gen X1 carbon which replaced caps lock with home and end keys.

    There is also the troubling by the way mention of the right mouse button. For the love of god do not advocate screwing with the right mouse button. You don't often need it, but when you do, all the schemes that try to de-emphasize it's footprint really screw with you and again *nothing of value is gained*.

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  12. CAPS-LOCK by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obviously caps-lock is the least used key. you press it only once after boot, then no more.

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  13. Mangled IRC joke by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude1:"HI GUYS! HOW IS EVERYONE?"

    Dude2:"Hey. Doing okay. You?"

    Dude1:"COULDN'T BE BETTER! ANYTHING GOING ON?"

    Dude2:"There's a caps lock key on your keyboard, press it."

    Dude1"OH! THANK YOU! IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TYPING NOW NOT HAVING TO HOLD SHIFT."

  14. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by T.E.D. · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just curious, what OS are you using?

    On both Windows and Linux, it's a pretty handy key.

    On Windows 8 (I haven't tried 10 yet), its pretty much required, unless you do something goofy like place an icon for every program you might ever want to use on your desktop. Its the "help me find a program" key. If you'd rather search your hard-drive manually, its still much quicker to bring up file explorer with Windows-e rather than hunt down a picture of it on your desktop (closing any possible obscuring windows) and click that.

  15. Dvorak. by briancox2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is the opportunity the obscure Dvorak Keyboard crowd has been waiting for to finally fix the layout of keys.

    Organize now. Latch on to this issue. Or you'll miss your chance.

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  16. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 3, Informative

    I find that I use it constantly for two things (aside from start menu access): Windows+E = Brings up File Manager/Windows Explorer Windows+L = Lock screen in one keypress (rather than two using the C-A-D plus mouse click)

  17. Why Is the Caps Lock Key Still So Prominent On Key by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Funny

    SO THE OLD GEEZERS WHO ONLY GREW UP WITH TELETYPE MACHINES CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.

    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

    WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY?

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  18. Sticking with a 1982 design by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a different (possibly more stupid) question: why are computer numeric keypads and phone keypads reversed from each other? This gets even worse when entering your pin for a bank; I've seen both layouts used by banks. I think the answer is, "That's the way we've always done it!" Somebody made an arbitrary and capricious decision many years ago, and nobody has had the wherewithall to change it. Another "standard" that bothers me: In the transition to digital video, they had the chance to do away with the PAL/NTSC dual-standard nonsense... but they still chose to support both 50 and 60 FPS video?!? As I understand, even 4K video comes in both 50 and 60 frames per second variety, because obviously we still need to synchronize our video to our AC line current...

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  19. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Control and alternate already have well-defined meanings. Control is for entering control characters, alternate is for entering alternate characters. OS X uses both. UNIX keyboards used to come with a meta key, but this fell out of use as software was written for PCs without such a key. On OS X, the usage of the command key is inherited from classic MacOS: It's the modifier that you hold for commands. This means that the OS X terminal is the only graphical terminal that I've come across that doesn't suck for copy and paste. On OS X, every single program including the terminal uses command-C for copy and command-V for paste. The terminal is therefore free to use control-C for sending the character that they terminal recognises for SIGINT. Windows overloaded the alternate key for opening menus, which meant that it is no longer a convenient key if you need to enter non-ASCII characters (for example, a Euro symbol or a letter with an accent, which are both easy to enter on a Mac). Most desktop environments for Linux inherited a load of bad UI design from Windows before adding their own mistakes.

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  20. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 3, Informative

    You will not take my context menu key until you pry it from my cold dead fingers. I use that thing constantly. Maybe I use applications that hide an inordinate amount of functionality under the context menu (including my own). I really try to avoid moving my hands from the keyboard to the mouse (and back) until I absolutely have to, so I'm all about keyboard shortcuts. The context menu key is a handy one, for me at least.

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  21. Re:The Microsoft key!!!! I've never used it...ever by mattventura · · Score: 5, Informative

    On top of opening the start menu, there's tons of Win-letter combinations. Win-R is Run, Win-E is explorer, Win-D shows the desktop, Win-M minimizes all windows. Win-1,2,n launches the 1st, 2nd, nth program pinned to your taskbar. Win-arrows move windows around on the screen and Win-shift-arrows move windows between different monitors. There's plenty of others that I don't remember. It's actually pretty inconvenient to not have a windows key once you're used to it.

  22. For Linux: Remap CapsLock to Compose by houghi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just remap your Caps-Lock key to the Compose key.
    http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/l...

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  23. Re:It's IBM's fault. Everyone copied the PC. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Sometime around 1985"? Actually a couple of years before that.

    Listen' up, young uns, and I'll give you some history.

    The computer world until the early 1980s was largely divided between the IBM EBCDIC/coax block mode terminals and ASCII/serial.

    IBM block-mode (3278) keyboards had no CTRL key, and two return keys - one for typical carriage return when entering text, and the ENTER key to signal that all fields on the block-mode screen were filled and to transmit them. All the ASCII stuff including most of the original personal computers had the CTRL key in that position, or required a separate ASCII terminal. Some early ASCII terminals didn't even have backspace or return keys - you used CTRL-H and CTLM-M. Still works in many applications. Us old-timers were accustomed to it and could keep our hands in the touch typing position. Find your nearest proficient, old-timer vi user for a demo of how fast you can edit code with a properly placed CTRL key.

    Then IBM came out with their PC. They had to add a CTRL key because lots of applications used it - Wordstar for instance. But they also wanted to sell it into the corporate IBM corporate customers. So they left the caps lock key where IBM terminal users expected it to be. And they tucked the CTRL key down below the shift key.

    A truly wretched layout. But the IBM PC was a big hit, and everyone rushed to copy it.

    You can still buy keyboards with a DIP switch to swap the CTRL and Caps Lock keys.

  24. Re:It's IBM's fault. Everyone copied the PC. by tap · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's just not true!

    The IBM PC-AT keyboard, circa 1984, has control as a large key above shift and to the left of the 'A' key, in its proper place. Alt is below shift. There are no right-hand alt or control keys and caps-lock is off on the right side below shift where the right control key is now. There was a large gap between the spaceback and caps-lock, since there was no right alt or windows key.

    The PC-XT keyboard, circa 1981, had the same layout of control-shift-alt in the proper order on the left. The caps-lock key was on the far upper-right corner, above the numeric keypad.

    It wasn't until the 101 key model M that IBM messed up and placed the caps lock key in the incorrect location above shift and next to 'A'.

    Is there really no one else here who remebers typing away on the original PC keyboard, with the control key in the proper location, the giant plus key, break on the scroll lock key and printscreen on the dedicated '*' key?