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China To Impose Export Control On High Tech Drones and Supercomputers
hackingbear writes: Following similar hi-tech export restriction policies in the U.S. (or perhaps in response to the U.S. ban on China,) China will impose export control on some drones and high performance computers starting on August 15th, according to an announcement published on Friday by China's Ministry of Commerce and the General Administration of Customs. The ban includes (official documents in Chinese) drone that can take off in wind speed exceeding 46.4km/hour or can continuously fly for over 1 hour as well as electronic components specifically designed or modified for supercomputers with speed over 8 petaflops. Companies must acquire specific permits before exporting such items. Drones and supercomputers are the two areas where China is the leader or among the top players. China is using its rapidly expanding defense budget to make impressive advances in (military) drone technology, prompting some to worry that the United States' global dominance in the market could soon be challenged. The tightening of regulations comes two weeks after an incident in disputed Kashmir in which the Pakistani army claimed to have shot down an Indian "spy drone", reportedly Chinese-made. China's 33-petaflops Tianhe-2, currently the fastest supercomputer in the world, while still using Intel Xeon processors, makes use of the home-grown interconnect, arguably the most important component of modern supercomputers.
while still using Intel Xeon processors
The U.S. Could reciprocate and ban Intel exports.
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..comes around. US paranoia on high end electronics exports made this inevitable since China was capable of growing their own tech, and have
Sounds like an oxymoron to me. When has the Chinese government ever effectively placed any sort of limitations on any behavior by Chinese businesses?
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The tightening of regulations comes two weeks after an incident in disputed Kashmir in which the Pakistani army claimed to have shot down an Indian "spy drone", reportedly Chinese-made
India has it's own reasonably successful drone program. It would be naive to assume that a country that can successfully put a payload into mars orbit would import military drones, that too from a hostile country.
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Well, that's definitely good for business. Guess we'll just have to settle for American Made.
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Our knee jerk sissies are already trying to restrict drone use in the US to extinction with absurd demands for absolute safety. Now it turns out that we had sure as heck encourage all kinds of young people to build ever better drones and make certain they can fly them almost everywhere because if we don't the effect will be to cause foreign powers to have better military drones than we can build which might kill us all one day. In industry we no longer ask if our employees can produce cheaper than foreign employees. We ask if our robots can produce cheaper than their robots. And as we replace our war fights with robots, drones, etc. we now must demand that our robots can kill more and better than their robots can kill more and better.
The 'next big leap' is the important thing. Not relatively small incremental jumps over competition by fine tuning and addition of 'more of the same' - what I mean is, whether it's an entirely new architecture or more likely quantum computing, the leap is what will make the difference in competitive technology not the crawl.
I have no idea where China sits with quantum computing (or entirely new architectures), however, with Google banned and their investment in quantum computing and relationship with the 'western nations' I don't know if it matters.
There is nothing they produce that is applicable to any computer, much less a Peta-flop supercomputer. Aren't their own processors approaching the speed of the fabled P4? Terror is the skies as Chinese drones with overheating processors dominate the sky.
This is on the level of the Iranian Minister of Information announcements.
While the interconnects are certainly a very important part of a supercomptuer, they aren't the hardest part. Building a high performance CPU takes a shit ton of research and infrastructure. The barrier for entry is exceedingly high and takes a long time to spin up. You can see that with China's Longsoon processor which for all the hyped ended up being a license of a MIPS core, built on an old process technology. Building a ton end CPU is just tough stuff.
Of course then there's the other fact that there are plenty of interconnect makers that are not Chinese. The big names in high speed interconnects are Cray (US), IBM (US), and Infiniband (which is made by many companies like Intel and Mellanox). It's not like China has the high speed interconnect market cornered.
Finally there's the silliness of focusing on #1. Yes, they have the #1 computer at the linpack benchmark (which is not good at representing performance in all things). However the US has the #2, 3, 5, 8, and 10. In other words, half of the top 10. The idea that only the top spot matters is very, very silly.
First of all, China's supercomputers are not considered in the same high regard as US and Japanese feats (for instance, the Tianhe-2 mixes homegrown SPARC front-end terminals with x86-64 worker nodes on an operating system that only added clustering support after-the-fact).
Second of all, never underestimate the effectiveness of Chinese businesses to skirt regulations.
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All the skills to produce these things are being outsourced to China
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US "paranoia" didn't "start" this at all. It's not paranoia when they really are out to steal your tech. Chinese domestic tech sucks, the Chinese know it, everyone in the world apparently knows it but you. Why else are they trying so hard to steal? Chinese are terrible at inventing things. From an early age their creativity is stifled and they are taught only the great masters could invent, the best that students can do is copy perfectly.
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I bought the ARF (almost ready to fly kit ) DJI F450 quadrocopter & Naza V2 flight controller. DJI is a leading Chinese maker.
I assembled it, learned all features and tested extensively. And also Futaba T10J remote control. I never piloted a drone system so stable and reliable. It uses both GPS & CLONASS satellites antenna. It is something incredible.
I had a feeling similar when I bought for the first time a PC in 1995 with an internet access, a feeling that the world is about to change beyond recognition.
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I admit, I first read that as Nazi V2...
Naza is kind of a Chinese goddess or a hero of a fairy tale. Something in-between, as I could understand. My point is that this is another level of flying. This thing sticks in one point in the air even in the wind when one leaves the levers.
Course Lock mode is a plain miracle. No matter what is an orientation of the quad, it memorizes what was forward at the take off and flies accordingly.