The new U.K. government said it "does not believe that the defects identified are a result of Chinese state interference." Instead, it blamed "poor software engineering" and a lack of "cybersecurity hygiene." In other words, Huawei's networks could be exploited by a "range of actors," not just the Chinese government.
Raise your hand if you have not made a single bug in your career. Raise your hand if you know of any software company having zero bug or defect.
China allowed the politically incorrect importing foreign trash, think about the public sentiment if the US start importing trashes from 3rd world country, because it was a WTO concession to enjoy "unfair" benefits like requiring joint ventures and tech transfer; it is a business deal that the American public has enjoyed.
Americans should stop whining China stealing manufacturing jobs, which are among the lowest classes of jobs there that only poor rural migrants (known as min gong) do, and start taking up these new jobs of trash processing and scavenging.
Looks like Americans should stop whining China stealing manufacturing jobs, which are among the lowest classes of jobs there that only poor rural migrants (known as min gong) do, and start taking up these new jobs of trash recycling. BTW China allowed the politically incorrect importing foreign trash, think about the public sentiment if the US start importing trashes from 3rd world country, because it was a WTO concession to enjoy "unfair" benefits like requiring joint ventures and tech transfer; it is a business deal that the American public has enjoyed.
The US has been making up various accusations against China pretty much after the collapse of the Soviet Union. (Before then, the US betrayed Taiwan and fell in bed with the "Chinese communist" in order to fight the all powerful SU.) The Americans have already been doped to say that China's evil, but their real votes are their pocket, just like they used to have the same split behavior toward the Japanese when Japan was all the rage of going to dominate the world -- after they "stole" / imitate US technology -- and the US started cracking down on the Japs. We should thank the self-contradiction of the public, else the world would have fought a lot more wars.
(Before the Japanese, the British treated Americans as thefts for the same IP theft accusations. History always repeats itself.)
1. the GP talked about just "suing in American court" and not specifically "suing US government in American court"
2. if you haven't heard of those in the biased American media, doesn't mean they don't exist. (Of course, given you speak on China without knowing much, you obviously don't actually read in Chinese and need some help from online translation.) (And I'm claiming these cases are frequent, but GP claimed there is none. They are rare maybe because foreign companies are actually quite happy in China.)
BTW all rights anyone can have, including "human rights", only exist because they are covered by some constitution clauses.
Only foreigners physically outside of a country and foreign companies not registered in the country do not have constitution rights, else no foreigner or foreign company would dare to come to the US.
I'm sorry but please explain how any of those stops someone from getting on a train, bus, boat, or airplane in America?
If you get listed in China's social score system, you can still use (regular) train, bus, and boat; you cannot travel by airplane or high-speed train, so the article title exaggerates the situation. Such practice is not unique to mainland China; in Hongkong, long before the hand-over, a bankrupted person cannot take taxi for example. In China, there's no such thing as personal bankruptcy and things like jaywalking, evading debt, etc. are rampant. While their social credit system may be abused, so is the US legal system, e.g. ones who use drug are jailed for long time, whereas the drug users in China may just be banned from flying airplanes and taking high-speed trains.
The censorship issue in China is also exaggerated. For one, political topic is the one being censored. ordinary people have little interests in politics and need to talk about politics much. Most other discussions are allowed and quite open. Follow the actual news from real Chinese news site, you can read a lot of criticism on the various levels of government on variety of topics. Also read Quora on many of the answers on Chinese censorships and other Chinese issues; those give you a lot of in-depth analysis than most of the western outlet shows you.
While China's legal system is not independent, it does not mean ordinary people are not protected most of the time. See the various positive and negative answers to this Quora question. In particular. the biggest problem was that local government, which typically has conflict of interests or even corruption, controlled the local court; since Xi got in power, the legal system has been reorganized to be managed by the upper judicial layers instead of the government at the same locality.
It is like that one can in principle have a much higher chance become a victim of gun violence in the US but in practice you are not about to be gunned randomly next week.
And finally, it is unclear why this discussion of foreign country spy or surveillance (by China) accusations have much to do with the human rights or democracy situations in China. But the US, which is supposedly/on paper a democracy respecting human rights, is still spying around the world. So whether China respects human rights or is a democracy has nothing to do with whether China will spy or not. Apparently, the actual accusations don't hold any water and American nationalists have to divert the focus.
Yeah, like theseusages are entirely acceptable, since they are done by the GREATEST NATION on earth.
ONE MILLION UIGHURS IN CHINESE PRISONS.
Wow, what a change of heart for Americans! We are suddenly having real empathy about Muslims, as long as they are not being locked up in Guantanamo.
The Chief of INTERPOL for chrissake was arrested and secretly detained for MONTHS without being charged.
Wow, another change of heart for a top Chinese security official who supposedly have done, well because he was the top police chief, all the political crimes such as "disappear dissidents, undesirable ethnicities, journalists, etc."
Majority of accusations against Huawei or China are falsified, exaggerated, outdated, or hypocritical.
Whether China has done that or not, they has not launched a major PR campaign over the issue against US in the many years PRISM, which revealed direct attacks against Chinese network, has been exposed. The US government and policticians, on the other hand, keep using the same things from IP theft to industry espionage that the US had committed to attack China and never mention its own dirty history (so that they can use the issues to rally the support of populism and nationalism.) That's called hypocrisy.
Yeah, and Iraq really didn't have WMD either. The cyber security and military industry complex need an excuse to make their ends meet and the politicians need to rally nationalism and populism to collect the last few votes sitting between conservative and liberal voters.
devalue their currency to steal our jobs and manufacturing,
Anyone actually living in China can tell you that the country has been trying hard, really hard, to pop UP their currency, e.g. by restricting the annual maximum of foreign currency an individual can *send out* of China. Otherwise, Yuan would be worth as much as Yen. so you should thank them for popping up their currency, else made in China products would be much cheaper.
use that advantage to steal our manufacturing technology,
Joint venture requirement is allowed under WTO treaty which they and the US have both signed up to. And requiring tech transfer is not "steal". In practice, companies only transferred enough peripheral tech so to allow manufacturing to happen. If a manufacturer doesn't know how to make the product, how can it start manufacturing for you? the core tech such as source code and semiconductor design are still been done in the Silicon Valley and never transferred. In accordance with WTO commitments, China has gradually narrow down the catalogs of industries requiring JVs over time. Bottom line: walk away and give up the market or lower labor cost if you don't like the deal, China did not put a gun at your head, blame your own (or the top 1% Americans') greediness
hack our infrastructure/businesses,
Read the TFA
international business,
Maybe you learned your English writing in the fake US education system?
steal our ICBM technology, industrial and tech IP, and siphon our wealth.
1. "tearing one apart and reverse engineering it" would give you a lot more details than asking someone out of their memory. 2. asking interviewee for info is pretty prevalent in the Silicon Valley. for one, the company asking does not sign an NDA. it is the interviewee who has signed the NDA and hold the responsibility to guard such secrets. 3. in this country, this kind of things all come down to arguing over fine points by highly paid lawyers.
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The new U.K. government said it "does not believe that the defects identified are a result of Chinese state interference." Instead, it blamed "poor software engineering" and a lack of "cybersecurity hygiene." In other words, Huawei's networks could be exploited by a "range of actors," not just the Chinese government.
Raise your hand if you have not made a single bug in your career. Raise your hand if you know of any software company having zero bug or defect.
Read these replies on Quora for your own education.
China allowed the politically incorrect importing foreign trash, think about the public sentiment if the US start importing trashes from 3rd world country, because it was a WTO concession to enjoy "unfair" benefits like requiring joint ventures and tech transfer; it is a business deal that the American public has enjoyed.
Americans should stop whining China stealing manufacturing jobs, which are among the lowest classes of jobs there that only poor rural migrants (known as min gong) do, and start taking up these new jobs of trash processing and scavenging.
Because the US has forgot the history lessons:
Wars that fought on falsified or exaggerate accusations are doomed to fail, even if every battle was won.
Countries running on populism and getting too greedy are doomed to be defeated.
The Europeans (and the Russians) should have passed their Chinese classical literature class.
Looks like Americans should stop whining China stealing manufacturing jobs, which are among the lowest classes of jobs there that only poor rural migrants (known as min gong) do, and start taking up these new jobs of trash recycling. BTW China allowed the politically incorrect importing foreign trash, think about the public sentiment if the US start importing trashes from 3rd world country, because it was a WTO concession to enjoy "unfair" benefits like requiring joint ventures and tech transfer; it is a business deal that the American public has enjoyed.
Oh yeah, we Americans don't want those stinky intelligence on Iraq WMDs, we just demand more nude photos of Angela. If the Germans start using Huawei, how can we get those photos?!
Right, you can be sure of that.
We should continue to blame China for everything wrong on this planet, that will for sure Make America Great Again.
The US has been making up various accusations against China pretty much after the collapse of the Soviet Union. (Before then, the US betrayed Taiwan and fell in bed with the "Chinese communist" in order to fight the all powerful SU.) The Americans have already been doped to say that China's evil, but their real votes are their pocket, just like they used to have the same split behavior toward the Japanese when Japan was all the rage of going to dominate the world -- after they "stole" / imitate US technology -- and the US started cracking down on the Japs. We should thank the self-contradiction of the public, else the world would have fought a lot more wars.
(Before the Japanese, the British treated Americans as thefts for the same IP theft accusations. History always repeats itself.)
ICD-10 Diagnose Code: F60.0
Cause: a result of an underlying belief that other people are hostile [and long time spying on others] in combination with a lack in self-awareness
Treatment: hard to treat, i.e. a terminal illness.
Chelsea Manning is a traitor to this great nation: she exposed the hypocrisy of this nation.
Chelsea Manning is a hero to the world: she let the world learn the hypocrisy of an empire.
1. the GP talked about just "suing in American court" and not specifically "suing US government in American court"
2. if you haven't heard of those in the biased American media, doesn't mean they don't exist. (Of course, given you speak on China without knowing much, you obviously don't actually read in Chinese and need some help from online translation.) (And I'm claiming these cases are frequent, but GP claimed there is none. They are rare maybe because foreign companies are actually quite happy in China.)
And this one, while technically not the foreign company GalaxoSmithKline suing, it is about (Chinese) patients suing the Chinese government for refusing to reveal the R&D cost information of GSK drugs.
Don't be lazy. don't be ignorant. Look it up and don't spread misinformation, dude!
BTW all rights anyone can have, including "human rights", only exist because they are covered by some constitution clauses.
Only foreigners physically outside of a country and foreign companies not registered in the country do not have constitution rights, else no foreigner or foreign company would dare to come to the US.
the fact the Chinese can sue in American courts with a decent chance to win still says a lot about the differences between the two juggernaut nations.
The differences only exist in your brain, washed over by American propaganda.
Wrong. An American company has constitution rights, whether its owned by US or foreign citizen / company.
Can't get any real concessions in trade talk, continue to hold the hostage.
I'm sorry but please explain how any of those stops someone from getting on a train, bus, boat, or airplane in America?
If you get listed in China's social score system, you can still use (regular) train, bus, and boat; you cannot travel by airplane or high-speed train, so the article title exaggerates the situation. Such practice is not unique to mainland China; in Hongkong, long before the hand-over, a bankrupted person cannot take taxi for example. In China, there's no such thing as personal bankruptcy and things like jaywalking, evading debt, etc. are rampant. While their social credit system may be abused, so is the US legal system, e.g. ones who use drug are jailed for long time, whereas the drug users in China may just be banned from flying airplanes and taking high-speed trains.
The censorship issue in China is also exaggerated. For one, political topic is the one being censored. ordinary people have little interests in politics and need to talk about politics much. Most other discussions are allowed and quite open. Follow the actual news from real Chinese news site, you can read a lot of criticism on the various levels of government on variety of topics. Also read Quora on many of the answers on Chinese censorships and other Chinese issues; those give you a lot of in-depth analysis than most of the western outlet shows you.
While China's legal system is not independent, it does not mean ordinary people are not protected most of the time. See the various positive and negative answers to this Quora question. In particular. the biggest problem was that local government, which typically has conflict of interests or even corruption, controlled the local court; since Xi got in power, the legal system has been reorganized to be managed by the upper judicial layers instead of the government at the same locality.
It is like that one can in principle have a much higher chance become a victim of gun violence in the US but in practice you are not about to be gunned randomly next week.
And finally, it is unclear why this discussion of foreign country spy or surveillance (by China) accusations have much to do with the human rights or democracy situations in China. But the US, which is supposedly/on paper a democracy respecting human rights, is still spying around the world. So whether China respects human rights or is a democracy has nothing to do with whether China will spy or not. Apparently, the actual accusations don't hold any water and American nationalists have to divert the focus.
WHAT IT IS USED FOR is the key
Yeah, like these usages are entirely acceptable, since they are done by the GREATEST NATION on earth.
ONE MILLION UIGHURS IN CHINESE PRISONS.
Wow, what a change of heart for Americans! We are suddenly having real empathy about Muslims, as long as they are not being locked up in Guantanamo.
The Chief of INTERPOL for chrissake was arrested and secretly detained for MONTHS without being charged.
Wow, another change of heart for a top Chinese security official who supposedly have done, well because he was the top police chief, all the political crimes such as "disappear dissidents, undesirable ethnicities, journalists, etc."
Majority of accusations against Huawei or China are falsified, exaggerated, outdated, or hypocritical.
Whether China has done that or not, they has not launched a major PR campaign over the issue against US in the many years PRISM, which revealed direct attacks against Chinese network, has been exposed. The US government and policticians, on the other hand, keep using the same things from IP theft to industry espionage that the US had committed to attack China and never mention its own dirty history (so that they can use the issues to rally the support of populism and nationalism.) That's called hypocrisy.
Yeah, and Iraq really didn't have WMD either. The cyber security and military industry complex need an excuse to make their ends meet and the politicians need to rally nationalism and populism to collect the last few votes sitting between conservative and liberal voters.
When they start restricting the maximum amount of currency coming IN,
Except that China is, and has been so most of last 4 decades, putting more effort restricting the outflow of foreign currencies. Your assertion has no base.
devalue their currency to steal our jobs and manufacturing,
Anyone actually living in China can tell you that the country has been trying hard, really hard, to pop UP their currency, e.g. by restricting the annual maximum of foreign currency an individual can *send out* of China. Otherwise, Yuan would be worth as much as Yen. so you should thank them for popping up their currency, else made in China products would be much cheaper.
use that advantage to steal our manufacturing technology,
Joint venture requirement is allowed under WTO treaty which they and the US have both signed up to. And requiring tech transfer is not "steal". In practice, companies only transferred enough peripheral tech so to allow manufacturing to happen. If a manufacturer doesn't know how to make the product, how can it start manufacturing for you? the core tech such as source code and semiconductor design are still been done in the Silicon Valley and never transferred. In accordance with WTO commitments, China has gradually narrow down the catalogs of industries requiring JVs over time. Bottom line: walk away and give up the market or lower labor cost if you don't like the deal, China did not put a gun at your head, blame your own (or the top 1% Americans') greediness
hack our infrastructure/businesses,
Read the TFA
international business,
Maybe you learned your English writing in the fake US education system?
steal our ICBM technology, industrial and tech IP, and siphon our wealth.
So did the US
Of and hire a sockpuppet using the nick "ShanghaiBill"
Personal attack is a sign of paranoia
I don't know,
You are absolutely right on this! You don't know anything but keep spitting out BS.
1. "tearing one apart and reverse engineering it" would give you a lot more details than asking someone out of their memory.
2. asking interviewee for info is pretty prevalent in the Silicon Valley. for one, the company asking does not sign an NDA. it is the interviewee who has signed the NDA and hold the responsibility to guard such secrets.
3. in this country, this kind of things all come down to arguing over fine points by highly paid lawyers.
or you will be punished for leaking the biggest secret of the U.S.: that the U.S. is the biggest hypocrite.