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Girls Catfish ISIS On Social Media For Travel Money
MarkWhittington writes: Yahoo Travel reported that three women in Chechnya took ISIS for $3,300 before getting caught. They are now under investigation for Internet fraud, which seems to be illegal even when committed against the most fearsome terrorist army in modern times. The scam seems to be a combination of the Nigerian Prince con, in which a mark is fooled into giving the con artist large sums of money and catfishing, in which the mark strikes up an online romance with someone he thinks is an attractive woman (or man depending on the gender and preference of the mark.)
Can we stop using catfish as a verb? Its fucking dumb.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
You severely under-estimate the combined ability of the worlds scammers targeting a specific group... especially so with a group who have already shown they are prone to being manipulated.
No amount of stolen museum works or oil wells or side income from slave brothels/human trafficking would save them from total plunder.
Big pockets are all the better as lure the lure for more attacks.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If it was legal to scam them they would be flooded with offers from so many girls it would either bankrupt them or they would stop recruiting because of all the scams.
I would suggest the prosecutors exercise their prosecutorial discretion to not prosecute against people for non-violent crimes committed against overseas violent enemies/lawless violent groups.
At some point the noise of all the scammers/fakers could drown out those whom terrorist orgs could "legitimately" recruit, therefore interfering with those groups' ability to recruit.
"If the intelligence agencies were smart"
Your suggestion would be smart only to someone actually incentivized to end ISIS.
If ISIS went out of business, intelligence agencies would no longer be able to justify their expenditures in combating ISIS and would have to put in some actual work to find a replacement target.
Thank goodness Islam is "The Religion of Peace" and ISIS isn't following Sharia. I'm sure ISIS will "turn the other cheek" because Islam follows the "Golden Rule" and preaches "forgiveness", and the equality of men with women, and believers and unbelievers, and separation of mosque and State, right? right? /sarc
Too bad for these girls that Islam actually means "Submission" (supposedly to Dushara/Allah, but actually to the Arab Emperor the Caliph), and Sharia preaches no mercy, women are worth less than men and the absolute property of either he father or husband, and unbeliever/infidel "kufir" (which is a pejorative term similar to the Nazi "Untermenchen" or racist "n$gg3r") is subhuman and worthy of death for not accepting the Islamic political order across the globe (commanded by Koran 9:29 to be implemented over time by all Muslims).
Run girls! run! and be safe.
By the same rule, religious terrorist groups are free to target us as well, as in their eyes, our actions are deemed criminal by them. The 'old world idea' is basically an idea of anarchism and does not work.
prove it
the link goes to yahoo.com
which links to a story by RT.com, aka Russia Today
so...
yeah, pretty much, it's propaganda, you're right
uh... you mean the Kremlin
although, the idea that Russia Today is actually run by the US State Dept is exactly the sort of low iq paranoid schizophrenic fantasy you sort of crackpots believe, so... carry on my wayward son
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
So you think somehow the gangs of LA are going to magically protect you from someone driving a garbage truck full of explosives into your neighbourhood or from a stranger walking up to you hacking at your head with a machete? man you must walk around with a 1 kilometer perimeter where the only people you ever see are LA Gang members.
If someone wants to kill you bad enough then they CAN, embarrassing organisations like ISIS is a good way to not only get yourself killed but others around you. ISIS are a bunch of sadistic pricks with seriously warped moral compasses and they have a bunch of blind followers who will happily sacrifice their lives just to make a point that you can't fuck with them should they choose to do so, or are you really so niave that you think ISIS members don't exist in just about every country of the world?
Stealing is illegal. Simple as that. I think it is GOOD that it is illegal. That way there is no line that you can cross.
What you are promoting is that people take justice into their own hands. That will end badly.
And placing people outside the lwa and their protection is a good idea for you? To me that means you are no better than those who you are trying to fight.
If you want them ded so badly, join the people who fight them. Does not even have to be the US Army.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
... Okay, so I get a friend in Saudi Arabia to send me a money order, marked: "for travel to the Islamic State, Allahu akbar". I show it to the US government, they pay me a reward, I split it with my friend.
That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure a real con artist could do better. The problem with doing business with con artists is that they're con artists.
Social engineering is strongly related to computer hacking?
Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
The reality is much more complicated than that. The funds they used weren't American and the US pretty much asked them not to go off fund and and arm Jihadist groups but they went ahead and did it anyways because they wanted to hurt Iran's allies. (The current Iraqi government and Syria). The result was predictable: ISIS turned on their former benefactors now that they are self financing using local tax revenue and captured oil wells.
How is this news anyway related to this site? Editors, please, if the long term future of this site is a priority, please make sure that the level of news don't go down like this. I can understand when you post serious or sometimes even funny news clippings which really doesn't align with the stated principles. That is fine, without some explorations around, we never really find our sweet spot. But this, this is going down a level. There are many sites which cater to these news items. I don't come here expecting to see this level of posts on Slashdot.
Modders, please...could you mod down the anonymous cowards bitching about an article being not worthy of posting on slashdot? The women used social engineering and the internet to scam ISIS out of some cash. Seems relevant to me and funny in a way.
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
Erdogan has turned a blind eye to ISIS fighters and weapons using his country as a transit point into Syria whilst blocking Kurdish fighters from doing the same and has put far more effort into bombing Kurds.
It's got nothing to do with skin colour or religion, Turkey and the Kurds are both secular, ISIS is an Islamist group, and Erdogan is an Islamist leader, that's about it. Calling out a bad leader for doing more to oppress a group that has been in peace talks for 2 years and has been attacked by Erdogan's troops more than they've attacked Erdogans troops doesn't make me an Islamaphobe by any measure, particularly as there are more than enough muslim Kurds. Stop being so ignorant.
Your post really couldn't be more useless, "it's a nationalism issue", what's a nationalism issue exactly? bombing the Kurds? great, but how does that justify implicitly supporting ISIS by letting them transit fighters and weapons through Turkey? how does that make it okay to attack the Kurds more so than ISIS? It doesn't matter what the motivation issue is, it's wrong all the same. Erdogan has long held the belief that ISIS are more of a benefit than a problem, and that's really not good for the West. Only now that they've attacked Turkey proper in a slightly more brutal way has his calculus changed somewhat and even then his instinct is not to obliterate ISIS, but instead to use it as an excuse to hammer the shit out of the PKK, and hit the YPG too.
It's kind of sad how you had to see the problem as an issue of race and religion, I'm astounded that you'd then cry bigot - you obviously are wrestling with your own inability to keep religion and race out of a discussion it's wholly irrelevant to. Crying "Islamaphobe", talking about skin colour and shouting bigot wont detract from your own apparent bigotry where you jump to conclusions that bear no relevance to anything that was said.
Oh really? I guess things like 9/11 were a conspiracy?
ISIS didn't exist in 2001 you idiot. ISIS only exists because the US overthrew Sadam, leading to the remains of the Iraqi Ba'ath party to pretend it was the new caliphate.
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