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Tesla Presses Its Case On Fuel Standards

An anonymous reader writes: Tesla is preparing their case to leave federal mileage and emissions regulations intact, or make them even more strict. In addition, the company is fighting other car makers from loosening more stringent regulations in California. The WSJ reports: "Tougher regulations could benefit Tesla, while challenging other auto makers that make bigger profits on higher-margin trucks and sport-utility vehicles. Tesla's vice president of development, Dairmuid O'Connell, plans to argue to auto executives and other industry experts attending a conference on the northern tip of Michigan that car companies can meet regulations as currently written. 'We are about to hear a lot of rhetoric that Americans don't want to buy electric vehicles,' Mr. O'Connell said in an interview ahead of a Tuesday presentation in Traverse City, Mich. 'From an empirical standpoint, the [regulations] are very weak, eminently achievable and the only thing missing is the will to put compelling products on the road.'"

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  1. Re:Smart by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    They *are* doing them, but there are several manual steps currently. Go to Teslamotorsclub.com if you don't believe it.

    I've been there, and what I saw was a bunch of people who don't own Teslas slapping each other on the back while looking at photos which don't provide any proof that swaps are occurring.

    For what it's worth, battery swaps are a dead end.

    Sure, I agree. But credit systems are bullshit, too, and Tesla is gaming the credit system on top of that.

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  2. Re:Smart by Cyberax · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a Tesla Model S. And I've participated in the battery-swap beta.

    It works, almost as on the video - except you have to carefully position your car and attendant manually blocks your car's wheels from rolling.

    It doesn't make a lot of sense, though. The price ($85) is not worth it, it's just easier to wait 30 minutes for a supercharge.

  3. Re:"will" = force people to follow orders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think he means that the business owner is asking for regulations on competitors in the open without a bribe, whereas the rightist solution is to pay politicians for the law directly (and behind the scenes), like everyone else.

  4. How polite by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    "I'm an advantaged rich prick". Sorry. There's no gentle way to say it.

    Maybe not, but there is a way to say it like an asshole which you just proved.

  5. Re:Smart by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Informative

    That top 1% owns 40% of the wealth in the country. Only a fool would argue that they shouldn't be paying 40% of the taxes.

    Let me guess, you're a card-carrying member of the Republican party and you really believe that Fox News is fair and balanced.

  6. Re:Smart by ksheff · · Score: 1, Informative

    When I drive to my mom's house several times a year, it's usually a 13-14 hour drive. I usually stop for fuel and to use the bathroom twice during the trip. Due to the lack of range in the Tesla and the recharge time, it would add another 1.5 hours to the trip. Not to mention that the nearest Supercharger is 450 miles away. It's already a long day driving and with a Tesla, it would be even longer. No thank you.

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  7. Re:Not surprising by JackieBrown · · Score: 2, Informative

    I googled the sentence the poster above you wrote

    http://www.marketplace.org/top...

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/2...
    "In the first quarter, Tesla sold nearly $68 million of the zero-emission credits to other automakers. That represented 12% of its overall revenue. "

    So really, Telsa is not helping the climate - they are just outsourcing (selling) their percentage of climate damage to the competition. If they really cared, they would not sell or use these credits and actually help save the environment.

  8. Re:Not surprising by RingDev · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, I don't benefit. Thanks to the EPA, car makers can't engineer diesels to run with significant reliability.

    That's pure BS right there.

    I've got an '06 VW Golf TDi that has been running on ULSD since '08 with over 160,000 miles on it. I haven't had a single drive train failure on it.

    I've replaced the glow plugs (Wisconsin winters are brutal), the timing belt (at ~100k miles), and regular oil changes at 10k miles. And I still pull 44mpg highway.

    No vehicles have required DEF since 2008. It was a short term solution to meet EPA bin requirements in 2007/2008 while still running on low sulfur diesel fuel. Ultra low sulfur diesel, ULSD, does not require DEF to meet EPA requirements.

    The EPA hasn't cost any jobs. It increases costs insignificantly, but the quantity of jobs is entirely dependent on demand. The few bucks that EPA regs add to the price of a car do not meaningfully impact demand.

    -Rick

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