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NTT, Japan's Largest Fixed Telecom Provider, Begins Phasing Out ADSL
AmiMoJo writes: Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT), the third largest telecoms provider in the world, is beginning to phase out ADSL for broadband internet access (Google Translate helps). NTT is no longer accepting new registrations, and no longer manufacturing the equipment required. Instead they recommend users opt for their FLET'S HIKARI fibre optic service. Their "Giga Mansion Smart Type" services offers 1Gb/sec for around $40/month.
Is there a data cap ?
And they say America is falling behind when it comes to internet access. But Verizon is also phasing out DSL; getting a new DSL subscription these days is virtually impossible (speaking from experience, even if you just cancelled a month ago and want to resubscribe, suddenly it is "not available in your area"). In fact, Verizon is probably /ahead/ of the curve since they seem to be doing the same with FIOS. Oddly, they seem to be pushing Verizon wireless as the alternative instead of gigabit speeds but that's probably only because I haven't looked hard enough on their website, right?
As of a couple of months ago at least, BT will refuse to sell you fibre to the premises if you have access to ADSL.
My flat is literally 40 feet away from a fibre and even Ethernet enabled street box, and I can't get fibre.
-WolfWithoutAClause
"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"I am paying CenturyLink $150/mo for synchronous 1Gbps (non-bundled) and I thought that was a pretty good deal.
I know that DSL gets a bad rap but I was using 60Mbps VDSL before I switched to the 1Gbps service which, I believe, uses G.fast DSL to get from the demark to my apt... so take that cable!
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Sad how Japan's yesterday is Australia's future:
Right now Australia's Internet is pathetically slow by first world standards - though competitive by third world standards.... YAY! Internet speeds: Australia ranks 44th, study cites direction of NBN as part of problem http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...
The Liberals are promising the NBN will deliver at least 25Mbps to most household... YAWN! The Coalition’s rebooted NBN plan proposes to use a mix of technologies, including Telstra’s copper network and cable networks, to deliver minimum broadband download speeds of 25Mbps to 90 per cent of households and businesses by 2020. http://www.businessspectator.c...
And the best you can get if you pay through the nose is 100Mbps? WHAT A JOKE! http://www.whistleout.com.au/B...
http://www.crikey.com.au/2014/...
we are still waiting for VDSL to roll out more.
and considering its not an option for 80% of the country they are glad to sign you up for 3mbs service for only 57.99 + taxes and fees making it damn near 100 bucks a month
fuck the ISPs in the USA they all SUCK
Honestly Japan being much more condensed it probably makes sense. In the US we're too spread out to abandon certain technologies yet. My parents still have (3Mbps) DLS as their only option. I have a brother who doesn't even have that. He uses he cell phone for all his internet browsing occasionally tethering it to a desktop.
I live in a town - a small town (population ~8,000), but still a town, and we have good cable modem speeds but only the newest neighborhoods have fiber available (the local telecom company has installed it in new developments since 2010 or so, but hasn't retrofitted any older subdivisions).
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Must be nice to live in a country with first-world internet service. There is absolutely no core reason, other than sheer monopolistic greed, for why we can't have internet of this quality in major US metropolitan areas.
Orange is providing 500/250 but is progressively upgrading to 1 gig download, for €46/month. Coverage is not 100%, only 4M of a total of 34M in the country. Other operators give 1 gig (Iliad, Bouygues) but they cover far less places. NC/SFR is also offering 800 Mbit download on mixed fiber/cable (Docsis), again only on a few territories. Orange is actually encouraging switching to Fiber, pictures of telecom hubs show how much less real estate it takes compared to copper. A current experiment runs in Palaiseau to fully dismise the copper network.
For a lot of the world population, ADSL is the last mile through which apps on tablets connect to the Internet. It might be slower than fiber, but it's still a lot faster than cellular. If you try to sustain a download through an entire cap period, cellular is on average not much faster than 14.4 dial-up.*
* 5 GB/mo = 40000000 kbit/mo * 1 mo/30 days * 1 day/86400 s = about 15 kbps
Here in Indiana, Frontier continues to offer FiOS service under license from Verizon.
Giga Mansion Smart Type - I swear, Japan has the best names for everything. It's always a little stiff, comes off as just made up enough that maybe it's a joke, and maybe it was composed by a robot, but then you can't stop saying it to yourself over and over as if there's a code to be cracked there, where if you can just get it, it'll actually make sense.
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Amen to that brother.... 6Mbps here for $40 a month AT&T... in the hardscrabble backwater called Chicago, I can't get FIOS, can't get the good U-verse... 4G, AT&T and Comcast is it :(
Ask those guys who buy 32GB RAM for a gaming or video editing machine... if some people have extra money, they will buy the bigger numbers.
what does your average person need with that kind of connection?
For streaming HD content.
I get it that network border peering agreements have a lot to do with things, but it seems as though even with a 50+Mbps Internet connection, I was still encountering reduced performance at times.
Since going to Gigabit, I have not had any issues at all.
I don't utilize most of the bandwidth personally, but I do carve out a DMZ for public WIFI access that my neighbors can use (I live in an apartment building).
My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
Ah, but Uverse *IS* DSL - ADSL2+ or VDSL to be precise. In any other country it would be advertised as such, but US telcos seem to love to sell services with weird names in order to obfuscate what technology is actually being used to deliver them...
I was on ATT DSL. Cox makes DSL look heavenly. Cox works ok for a while but periodically just stops for about a minute. Now my wife understands my efforts to try to avoid cable modem. They gave everyone a supposed bump up from 5mb to 15. I say keep the 10mb and just give me a DSL level reliable connection.
In the UK openreach VDSL is called "fibre". Here it is called "superfast fibre". As if "up to" 80mbit DSL is superfast.
http://www.superfast-openreach...
And it's common to do this in some other places in Europe.
It makes AT&T's fibs about their service look like small potatoes.
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You're going to find this hard to believe, but there are residences who have more than one person using the internet at a time. If you've got 2 roommates, will your 3Mbps connection be any good if someone else is using Netflix, Hulu, or YouTube (lol - fairly demanding?) at the same time?
Sure, your download only took 20 minutes - but that's 20 minutes that you can't be doing much of anything else over the internet. Is that download actively holding your attention? Or perhaps it's time to pick up a book while your connection is tied up.
Another point being that people don't want to have to "make do" with a connection they are paying more for than most of the rest of the world, and getting at best half of the speed.
I have crapcast its 69.99 a month. add in taxes and fees and its 96 a month bull
And, he has mod points.
Internet access in Seattle sucks, and attacking its victims shows just how bad it is. I f***ing hate my dial-up. I had faster access in Alabama seventeen years ago than I now have in Seattle. Plus, I'm paying $3,200 per month for a two bedroom place with no AC that is falling apart. There's a reason so many young developers move to Seattle then quit their jobs so quickly and flee.
So, from the "EUR", we can identify "here", for both of those posts, as "some Eurozone country".
Could somebody be so kind as to indicate which particular Eurozone country/countries are being referred to here?
I agree that 1 Gbps is probably overkill. In fact, I'm myself only on a 200Mbit contract (at 41€/month) and I'm happy though I just use 100Mb/s of it, even with five users and we're quite heavy on downloads. The thing is that the choice is between a slow ADSL (2 Mb/s due to technology limits), and super-fast fiber. I think that current usages require around 10-20 Mb/s for a nice experience, and that it would probably make more sense as a collectivity to upgrade networks by bringing the fiber closer to the homes, but still using the copper termination for the last 10 to 1000 meters (think FFTC/FTTB/whatever). Commercial interplays and regulations result in what we see now, competing companies focusing all on the same high-density areas which enjoy several very-high speed deployments, very progressive FTTH deployment because it takes half a day for two men to connect a house with the FTTH relay down the street (think there remain around 30M houses), and lots of people still hanging behind more than 4km of wire. It semt to me that the UK had chosen the progressive path, providing fast VDSL to nearly the whole country in just a few years. If it's not working well there either, it's quite sad.
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Yes adsl is for cows http://www.flexit.co.uk/case_s... Maybe someday fiber will be for humans.
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On a single verizon lte connection ive run 2 netflix streams and youtube without issue it often runs in the 20mbps range yet it has trouble smoothly streaming a single twitch stream.
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Don't get me wrong, like anyone I'd love a fiber connection for $50 a month but what does your average person need with that kind of connection?
Yesterday my son fired up the PS4 to play some silly game or other and the damn thing needed an update -- 5Gbytes!
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