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French Killers Inspired By Breaking Bad TV Show
hcs_$reboot writes: Four people who planned to dissolve a young French woman's body in acid were inspired by hit US TV show Breaking Bad. Two men went to the woman's house to settle a €6,000 drug debt. There, they beat her violently, killing her through a blow to the skull. Later, they bought acid in order to dissolve her body. The victim's body was found decomposing in a flat in Toulouse on Monday night, after having being cut up into pieces, covered in cling film and shoved into a suitcase. Chlorine acid had been used to try and disguise any trace of the corpse. A similar "decomposition" scenario is featured in season one of Breaking Bad (2008-2013).
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Actually, yes, in the 2nd link. RTFA for chrissake
The prosecutor explained that the suspects had been inspired by a US TV show Breaking Bad, where the lead characters use Hydrofluoric acid - a highly corrosive acid - to dissolve the bodies of their victims
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RTFA for chrissake
Whoa whoa whoa. You're going to have to take that article reading shit outside, mmkay?
We don't do that here.
It appears an efficient way to dissolve a body is alkaline hydrolysis; use potassium hydroxide, add heat and pressure, go drink a couple of coffees, you're done, deal with the goo. Legal as a cremation substitute for a couple of years now in some North American regions.
the famous scene in breaking bad has to do with hydrofluoric acid, not "chlorine acid" (assuming they mean hydrochloric acid)
in the breaking bad scene, jesse puts the body in a bathtub, instead of a plastic bin like he was was instructed to by walt. HF, unlike HCl, dissolves glass and ceramics. and so the partially dissolved body comes crashing through the ceiling
http://breakingbad.wikia.com/w...
mythbusters busted this though:
http://www.today.com/popcultur...
there is a nice combination of acids that apparently works great for dissolving bodies, but neither mythbusters nor breaking bad is going to tell us (probably some mix of acids, paying attention to the molar concentrations)
furthermore, the mafia has been dissolving bodies in acid for decades. breaking bad did not invent the concept, and these french goons did not necessarily get the idea form breaking bad
so the connection of this crime to breaking bad is complete bullshit, invented by some reporter who doesn't know his history of organized crime and is only familiar with tv shows
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
That doesnt mean the criminals were actually inspired by Breaking Bad. That only means the prosecutor saw Breaking Bad and assumed the criminals were copying that. Lets not forget that breaking bad was inspired by REAL LIFE when they wrote that part in. Find me a reliable quote from the actual offenders where they say they were inspired by Breaking Bad. Then your statement will be correct.
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Actually, yes, in the 2nd link. RTFA for chrissake
The prosecutor explained that the suspects had been inspired by a US TV show Breaking Bad, where the lead characters use Hydrofluoric acid - a highly corrosive acid - to dissolve the bodies of their victims
The prosecutor said it, so it must be legit.
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That was my thought too. When I hear "dissolving bodies in acid" I immediately thought of the Snowtown murders, not Breaking Bad.
All of which are indirect references to John George Haigh, an actual murderer who did use acid to destroy the bodies of his victims. He used concentrated sulfuric, and it worked very well. The police couldn't even identify most of the remains as a corpse, and certainly not identify it. They only succeeded with one, because the victim wore acid-proof artificial dentures. That was the only part to survive in recognizable form.
Yes, according to their lawyer, Gaul Goodman.
Strong bases would work just fine for breaking down protein. Then you take the bones and digest them in the acid of your choice.
Shit, even StackExchange will help you dispose of a body.
In England, dissolving the corpse with acid to destroy evidence is generally synonymous with John George Haigh (AKA the 'acid bath' killer), who predated the Snowtown murders. We see Breaking Bad as derivative!
Pigs work better and faster. Feed a body to the pigs and you might end up with a few teeth in pigshit, nothing more. Use the pigshit to fertilize some fields, and the body is just gone.
Dissolving tissue in bathtubs, etc, just leaves evidence in the trap, the pipes, (probably) in the bathroom and tub, and "weeks" is a lot of exposure.
All good drug dealers need to invest in a hog farm. It's worth it even when you don't have bodies to dispose of! Tasty bacon!
Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --- Bertrand Russell.
Yes it's dangerous but I suggest a bit of reality instead of Hollywood shit designed to scare students into treating it with respect. Reality is bad enough without pretending it's movie Nitro.
A spill on your skin can mean the bone underneath with start dissolving very soon with no way to stop it until the reaction is complete - isn't that scary enough without Hollywood physics?
Bingo.
I worked in academic organic chemistry for quite a few years, and was constantly spooked by some of the careless and dangerous things organic chemists would do to speed things up. And got to see a few ambulances pull up after things went "boom". The one thing all the organic chemists were afraid of though was the pure hydrogen fluoride our lab was working with daily. People who do peptide chemistry treat their HF apparatus like an airplane: preflight safety checks every time. If we had ever had an exposure (no accidents while I was working there), we had 4l bottles of magnesium sulfate to douse ourselves with and calcium gluconate gel right at the hood. I also had MSDS and current standards of care attached to the fume hood and sterile injectable calcium gluconate, all to be brought with us to the ER. I also kept the phone number for the ER handy - and the phone number for the president our our research institute. He's a chemist and knows the president of the hospital we would be taken to, which I hoped would provide some leverage in getting the ER up to speed before the ambulance arrived.
There are both topical and injectable things that will stop the reaction. Stuff like calcium gluconate can be injected locally to stop and sometimes even prevent damage that would appear a day or two later, while an IV for large exposures will help keep your nervous system and heart working. The only sucky part is that the absorption of calcium from HF can help remove pain from some of the damage it does, so it hurts more to restore nerve function in the area.