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Windows 10's Privacy Policy: the New Normal?

An anonymous reader writes: The launch of Windows 10 brought a lot of users kicking and screaming to the "connected desktop." Its benefits come with tradeoffs: "the online service providers can track which devices are making which requests, which devices are near which Wi-Fi networks, and feasibly might be able to track how devices move around. The service providers will all claim that the data is anonymized, and that no persistent tracking is performed... but it almost certainly could be." There are non-trivial privacy concerns, particularly for default settings.

According to Peter Bright, for better or worse this is the new normal for mainstream operating systems. We're going to have to either get used to it, or get used to fighting with settings to turn it all off. "The days of mainstream operating systems that don't integrate cloud services, that don't exploit machine learning and big data, that don't let developers know which features are used and what problems occur, are behind us, and they're not coming back. This may cost us some amount of privacy, but we'll tend to get something in return: software that can do more things and that works better."

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  1. List of domains to block by Pikoro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Blocking these domains will make your version of Windows 10 "Unconnected". To Microsoft at least.

    dns.msftncsi.com
    ipv6.msftncsi.com
    win10.ipv6.microsoft.com
    ipv6.msftncsi.com.edgesuite.net
    a978.i6g1.akamai.net
    win10.ipv6.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    en-us.appex-rf.msn.com
    v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
    client.wns.windows.com
    wildcard.appex-rf.msn.com.edgesuite.net
    v10.vortex-win.data.metron.life.com.nsatc.net
    wns.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
    americas2.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
    travel.tile.appex.bing.com
    www.bing.com
    any.edge.bing.com
    fe3.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
    fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    ssw.live.com
    ssw.live.com.nsatc.net
    login.live.com
    login.live.com.nsatc.net
    directory.services.live.com
    directory.services.live.com.akadns.net
    bl3302.storage.live.com
    skyapi.live.net
    bl3302geo.storage.dkyprod.akadns.net
    skyapi.skyprod.akadns.net
    skydrive.wns.windows.com
    register.mesh.com
    BN1WNS2011508.wns.windows.com
    settings-win.data.microsoft.com
    settings.data.glbdns2.microsoft.com
    OneSettings-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net

    http://init.sh/?p=236

    --
    "Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
  2. Re:How to document for Windows 10 privacy? by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Informative

    For a start, block these in your router, or hosts file:

    http://pastebin.com/ULJjVM7w

            vortex.data.microsoft.com
            vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
            telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
            telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
            oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
            sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
            watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
            choice.microsoft.com
            choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            df.telemetry.microsoft.com
            reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
            wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
            services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
            sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
            telemetry.microsoft.com
            watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
            telemetry.appex.bing.net
            telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
            telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
            settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
            vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
            survey.watson.microsoft.com
            watson.live.com
            watson.microsoft.com
            statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
            corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
            compatexchange.cloudapp.net
            cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
            a-0001.a-msedge.net
            statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
            sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
            fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
            diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
            corp.sts.microsoft.com
            statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
            pre.footprintpredict.com
            i1.services.social.microsoft.com
            i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
            feedback.windows.com
            feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
            feedback.search.microsoft.com
            rad.msn.com
            preview.msn.com
            ad.doubleclick.net
            ads.msn.com
            ads1.msads.net
            ads1.msn.com
            a.ads1.msn.com
            a.ads2.msn.com
            adnexus.net
            adnxs.com
            az361816.vo.msecnd.net
            az512334.vo.msecnd.net

  3. Re:It's 2015! Almost 2016! Wtf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I want my OS to do the work

    That's why I run Linux. For years and years it's enabled me to be productive.

    I've heard the "LibreOffice is lacking x,y,z" and "I can't live without feature x,y,z in Photoshop" many, many times now. If you truly can't live without x,y,z then go ahead and use Windows. Even if it's a simple matter of you like Windows better, go ahead and use it. I don't care. But don't tell me Linux is inferior because it doesn't have some obscure feature not used by 99% of users.

    I know Linux on the desktop will forever remain a small percentage of market share. It's simply never going to catch up with the big boys. I'm okay with that, too. The reason, though, is not inferiority. It's entrenchment and market muscle.

    If Microsoft started pushing Linux as Windows 12, even if they made zero changes to it, it would take off quickly.

    This is not about quality and merit. Not at all.

  4. Re:Now that's just evil by Pentium100 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not your home PC that came with Windows already on it. Cyberspace. The servers, search engines, websites, name it.

    I am a Linux server admin by trade :). And yes, Linux is great for servers. With one exception - I have not seen a proper alternative to MS Exchange server. Exchange is great for when users have tons of rules and many gigabytes of emails. Also, the way Exchange handles sharing mailboxes between users is better than the standard IMAP setup.

    If more games were compiled already to run on Linux, Microsoft would already be archive.org.

    Yes, is most new games ran on Linux, Microsoft would have harder time selling Windows.

    However, as it currently is, most new PCs come with Windows, so for a user, Windows is kinda-free - I mean he already paid for it and probably did not have the option of buying the same exact PC without Windows for $100 less. Also, stuff like compiling the kernel is way above the head of an average user, even installing drivers on Windows is above his head.

    What you don't to is to say oh, since Microsoft had us in a proprietary headlock for decades that now we just have to buy proprietary headlock edition PC's.

    A lot of times the choice is limited. I wanted a small UMPC that could fit in my pocket and yet have a relatively normal keyboard and x86 CPU (essentially a Psion Series 5 with modern hardware). There were two options at the time - Viliv N5 and Umid BZ. They both most likely have some hardware that is difficult to make work in Linux. Similar is buying a bigger laptop.

    If this is ever a case for anybody, simply install it into a Virtual Machine.

    Wouldn't installing Linux inside a VM inside Windows defeat the point of not having Windows? Also, good luck playing games or even HD video from inside the VM.

    Windows has no sell points other than forced updates, get spied on, share your WiFi password with outlook contacts, then decide who hacked your shit.

    Now, yes. However, old versions were good - XP and now 7, this is why people still use the old versions. XP because the hardware they have may not be fast enough for anything newer and 7 because the later versions are crap. After Windows 7 MS found out that it essentially was "good enough", could not find anything to improve and started to muck around with the interface and later spying.