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Japan To Restart Nuclear Power Tomorrow After Energy Prices Soar

An anonymous reader writes: After the Fukushima meltdown, all of Japan's nuclear power plants were shut down, the last in late 2013. This week the government plans on starting up reactor No.1 at the Sendai nuclear power plant. Energy prices have risen 30% since 2011, and it is hoped that the plant will soon be producing a surplus of electricity. Not everyone is happy about the plant restarting. This weekend, about 2,000 protesters marched around the plant and voiced their opposition. "Past arguments that nuclear plants were safe and nuclear energy was cheap were all shown to be lies," said writer Satoshi Kamata, one of the demonstration organizers. "Kyushu Electric is not qualified to resume operations because it has not completed an anti-quake structure to oversee a possible accident as well as a venting facility."

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  1. And... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gozilla breathes a sigh or relief... Nuclear power, sweet, lifegiving nuclear power!

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  2. It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the article: "has built stronger, higher tsunami walls near the new plant" and "Regardless, the 31-year old reactor"

    It's sad that 31 years old counts as 'new'.

    Consider that if they had had some really new nuclear plants that Fukushima probably would have already been shut down.

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    1. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Japan's newest nukes are of the very latest design, and all of the plants being restarted have passed the latest safety tests, on a date that has been planned for years. No, this is not some panic move "in response to soaring energy prices" as the headline claims.

    2. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by trout007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Imagine if the nuts never stopped reactor development? We'd have breeder reactors by now with little waste and much better air.

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    3. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by FranTaylor · · Score: 4, Funny

      There has to be an acceptable level of imperfection in the human hands that exploit nuclear power generation.

      Yeah, that's the ticket, keep telling the nuclear fuel to be more forgiving of stupid humans, that's how we prevent accidents.

    4. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

      Japan's newest reactors are indeed of a modern design, but the specific plant whose restart is discussed in this article, Sendai, is still a 2nd-generation plant. It's a newer one than Fukushima (1984 vs. 1971), but not a 3rd-generation plant.

    5. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Japan's newest nukes are of the very latest design, and all of the plants being restarted have passed the latest safety tests, on a date that has been planned for years. No, this is not some panic move "in response to soaring energy prices" as the headline claims.

      No, not really.

      "The vast majority of plants under construction around the world, 47 in all, are considered Generation II reactor designs—the same 1970s vintage as Fukushima Daiichi, and without integrated passive safety systems."

      Note the last phrase 'without integrated passive safety systems". That is the key. Fukashima required external power to shut itself down safely. Yes, TEPCO could have done things differently - site generators uphill, install a seawall that could actually contain a worst-case-scenario earthquake. Installed a hydrogen vent system. But it didn't. And TEPCO stated for years that the system was safe.

      Until you can shut down a reactor all by itself, then it isn't safe.

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    6. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You don't ever, really, completely prevent accidents.

      There becomes a measurable, yet acceptable level of environmental consequence for the creation of energy using fossil fuels, hydro, solar, and even wind.

      Should the bar for nuclear use be set right near perfection? Of course not, but maybe

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    7. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by David_Hart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There becomes a measurable, yet acceptable level of environmental consequence

      That level for nuclear generated electricity would be zero, considering that we have multiple other options available. If we had to choose between whale oil and nuclear, it would be a different story, but face it, between solar, wind, and reduced consumption, we simply don't need to take the risk

      Wrong...

      Wind and Solar are unpredictable and cannot be stored for peak times. Geothermal and Hydro tend to provide reliable power but do not provide enough supply. Wave power may contribute to this, but they are still working on engineering materials that will last in the ocean and handle the currents. That leaves Coal and Natural Gas, both of which have their own detrimental effects on the environment and risks, some of which are as bad or worse than nuclear. http://motherboard.vice.com/bl...

      Modern reactor design is as safe, or safer, than natural gas and coal. Most accidents are occurring at older plants that are near their lifetime. We are in this state because of public fear and the near impossible process of bringing a new reactor online. This has slowed the development and deployment of newer, safer designs.

      One of these days, we will learn how to store solar and wind energy. At that time, the other methods would quickly become obsolete. But until then, the sources of energy that we use will carry some form of inherent risk.

    8. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hydro? Are you insane?
      In 1975, an 18GB hydro-electric dam system in China failed, killing at least 170,000 people. And 11 million made homeless.

      Far more in one incident than from Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.
      Do you really want to take that risk?

      And don't get me started on coal ...

    9. Re: It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gen 4 melted salt thorium reactor. In addition, these can use current nuke waste and leave us 5% of the volume that is safe in 200 years. Zero chance if a failure, unless all of the laws of physics suddenly collapse.

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    10. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by Chas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Solar and Wind are *NOT* "options" for baseline power.

      Not with our current grid system.
      Not even if we rebuilt into a proper national grid, spec'ed to maximize the solar/wind contributions.

      And I wish people would STOP trying to push this sort of bullshit.
      Solar and wind currently provide a TINY fraction of the national power load. Scaling up to provide all of it, were it even possible with current tech, would basically leave vast swaths of the country buried under panels or reflectors (in the case of solar thermal). Leaving said tracts of land useless for pretty much anything else.

      Nuclear is a 365-day-a-year baseline power solution. And far more energy-dense than any renewables out there.
      The main problem is that too many people have been conditioned with "Nookyoolur = BOMZ!" fear and antipathy.
      As such, we've seen even simple issues blown COMPLETELY out of proportion. And every and any issue is treated like "the plant blew up and we have thousands of people dead because of it".

      There have been approximately 371 deaths in the nuclear power industry since 1950. Most of them being uranium miners.
      There have been approximately ZERO civilian deaths.
      And most of the overseas casualties have been plant workers in poorly designed/maintained/operated facilities.

      That I know of, there's been approximately 3 deaths in the solar industry since the 1970's. All of them during install.
      That totally discounts deaths among silica miners, as other industries utilize silica-based products too.

      As for "reduced consumption".

      You be the first to volunteer to go shiver in a cave in the winter, roast in the desert in the summer and generally never use modern electronics again.

      Consumption of power is only ever going to INCREASE in the US. Any efficiencies realized will simply be subsumed in further consumption.

      Realistically, what I'd like to see is a modernized grid with a base generation of nuclear fission (for now) with additional load covered renewable resources mated to power storage technology.

      This can tide us over while we race to find out if nuclear fusion will become a viable power source.

      After that, baseline nuclear fusion augmented by renewables with power storage technology.

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    11. Re:It'd be hilareous if not so sad... by Chas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right. You want to use things like Solar and Wind at peak times.

      For everything else, there's nuclear.

      And you know who's pushing the solar and wind farms the most?

      The gas company. Because a lot of these solar and wind facilities being put in are actually:

      Solar + Gas backup

      Wind + Gas backup

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  3. What did they think was going to happen? by timrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It should've been obvious to everyone involved that shutting down all the nuclear reactors in Japan as a reaction to the Fukushima meltdown with absolutely no replacement strategy wasn't a sustainable option.

  4. Re:I thought Abenomics wanted inflation? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess they only wanted inflation directed the "right" players in the economy, ie people instead of businesses.

    Price increases, in and of themselves, are NOT a sign of inflation.

    Essentially, inflation is an increase in the money supply not supported by a corresponding increase in "stuff you can spend money on".

    While electricity certainly qualifies as "stuff you can spend money on", nothing that can be done to the supply of electricity signifies inflation in and of itself.

    Remember, while price increases may be a sign of inflation, price increases are not necessarily a result of inflation. Sometimes it's just more demand than supply....

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  5. Re:Fine but they should invest in wind next by Harlequin80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The other way to look at it is if Fukushima had been on the West coast we wouldn't be talking about it at all and it would never have been damaged by the Tsunami.

    All power generation systems comes with some kind of risks. As a species we have been using nuclear all around the world for over 50 years and there are around 450ish plants with only 2 accidents of major note. In both instances we have learned what to look for and how to defend against those and similar issues in the future.

    One of the huge risks on other energy sources that is a major reason why Japan will have a nuclear energy sector for the foreseeable future is it is the only reasonably independent energy source available to it which other countries can't take away easily. Japan has no major fossil fuel reserves so must import gas, coal etc. putting it at risk to other countries for its energy supply.

    The same can be seen in their food production. Japan intensively farms its land and supports / protects its farmers. This is so that in the event of a conflict they retain the ability to feed themselves without imports.

    Wind is great, solar is great, hydro is great but I'm not convinced there is enough capacity, built or build-able, in those sources for Japan to move away from nuclear at this stage.

  6. Re:Fine but they should invest in wind next by Harlequin80 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I didn't know the event so just did a quick read. From what I can see the other cooling towers were more than capable of handling the heat load and the plant was throttled to 50% until the cooling tower was repaired. I couldn't find anything that referred to discharges into the river causing ecological damage, happy to read if you have something. Also it looks like it was a failure of a timber support not metal.

    That said cooling towers are not specific to nuclear power stations. They are used by all heat based generation systems to the impact would have been identical at a coal or gas plant.