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Physical Books Successfully Coexisting With Ebooks

An anonymous reader writes: When ebooks experienced their meteoric rise a few years ago, many were predicting the death of physical books. Early sales figures seemed to bear that out — ebooks kept getting more popular, and physical books were on the decline. But over the past couple of years, sales for both types leveled off. Rather than simple additive or deleterious effects, we're now seeing how technology has altered the literary landscape in more complex ways. Serials are returning, authors are able to more directly keep in contact with readers, and networks are developing to keep independent bookstores afloat. Libraries are being supplemented by companies who offer free access to ebooks at certain Wi-Fi hotspots. So, given that the changes so far have been less dramatic and more interesting than predicted, where do you think the ebook/physical-book situation will be in another 10 years?

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  1. Physical book? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    Physical book? What the hell is that? Do you mean an ebook you printed with your home printer?

    1. Re:Physical book? by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's no need to use a home printer nowadays. With the rise of ecommerce, you can order a nicely preprinted copy online and have it delivered!

    2. Re:Physical book? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      No, just go to the local maker space (remember, used to be a K-Mart?) and have them print you a printer that makes hard copies. Don't forget to stop by Whole Foods for the shade-grown lignin pellets.

    3. Re:Physical book? by Convector · · Score: 2

      And when it arrives, you should scan it, so that you can archive an electronic copy as a backup. That way, if you ever need to replace it, you can just 3D print the whole thing.

    4. Re:Physical book? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      I prefer my pleasure reading to be in e-ink form.

      Not me. I often want my technical docs serarchable, because you can't grep a dead tree.

      However, when I'm doing leisure reading, I want old fashioned paper. When I'm on vacation I want to be able to sit by the pool with a mojito, and not have to worry about an electronic device getting killed by errant water (or rum), or worrying about the battery life.

      I can fall asleep and drop my book, and at worst I'll lose my place.

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  2. They can co-exist? by avandesande · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't think there was room in my bag for both en e-reader and a book!

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  3. As a library patron, i dont see much change. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    E-Books are rentable from the library. even the hardware is rentable, so aside from a slight learning curve and different constraints on the total number of titles i can check out, the disruption proposed by e-books is minimal. things like library reservations or intra-library requests are also processed much more quickly, given the nature of the book being digital.

    Call me old fashioned, but there just isnt a valid replacement in my world for a physical book. If its a title i truly love, (hitchhikers guide, tolkien, etc...) I'll give sincere consideration to purchasing a copy for my personal bookshelf, but reaching for an e-reader on a rainy day still has no emotional context for me like a real book would. Ereaders are simultaneously more convenient and less convenient...leave one on a plane and its inexorably more expensive than buying a used copy online, but try taking your bookshelf with you everywhere you go. Theres no clear winner.

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    1. Re:As a library patron, i dont see much change. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      My library has the Overdrive ebook rentals too, but so far it has never stocked any book that I wanted.

  4. Physical books are better by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There are only a few cases when ebooks make sense.

    Where space is limited - such as on a long vacation.

    Where the book is really big and heavy.

    But when there are diagrams/maps in a book, the ebooks fail miserably.

    When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

    When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.

    When I want to borrow/lend a book, ebooks make it too much trouble, but a paperback is easy.

    When I want to throw a book in a backpack, paperback wins.

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    1. Re:Physical books are better by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      To be fair, if you drop your physical book in the tub, it won't fare much better than the eBook. Actually, the eBook would fare better in a sense since you would be able to view it from another device.

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    2. Re:Physical books are better by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I want to read in the tub, ebooks fail.

      To be fair, if you drop your physical book in the tub, it won't fare much better than the eBook. Actually, the eBook would fare better in a sense since you would be able to view it from another device.

      Put the eBook reader in a big ziploc baggie. You can read in the tub without fear of damage. You can't do this with a dead tree book; too hard to turn the pages without opening the baggie.

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    3. Re:Physical books are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are only a few cases when a physical book makes sense.

      Where you want a really good copy you can be proud of.
      When you're going to be without power for weeks.
      When you can't carry your tablet/phone/ereader for some reason.
      If you're old and set in your ways and don't like"'them newfangled gadgets."

      When there are diagrams/maps in the book, ebooks are just fine, unless you have a lousy reader.

      When you want to read in the tub, a paperback is just as fragile as an ebook reader. I will concede, however, that if you drop your paperback in the tub, you're out the cost of one paperback, whereas if you drop your tablet/ebook reader in the tub, you're out potentially hundreds of dollars.

      When you want something that fits in your pants pocket, carry your smartphone and read on that.

      When you want to borrow/lend a book, I have two words for you. Apprentice Alf. (But you didn't hear it from me)

      When you want to throw a book in a backpack, carry your tablet instead.

      In addition:

      I can carry my entire ebook library on my tablet, so if I'm going on vacation I don't have to pick and choose which to bring with me. Try carrying your entire physical library.

      My tablet has a back light, so I can read in low light without needing a flashlight.

      My ebooks are all on my hard drive and get backed up regularly. What device I choose to read them on is irrelevant, so even if my tablet gets lost or stolen, I get to keep my library. Try backing up your physical library.

      I can even back up my library in the cloud, so if I forget to bring my "book" with me, all I need is a computer with internet access and I can download my library. Try downloading one of your physical books that you left at home.

      I can run my ebooks through a text-to-speech program and listen to them instead of reading them, if I so choose. Granted, the quality isn't all that great, but try "listening" to your physical books.

      If the font is too small for my eyes, both my ebook reader and my tablet will allow me to increase the size. If you want to increase the font size on a paper book, you're going to need to carry an extra device: a magnifying glass.

      My ebooks have full text search. Some, but not all, physical books have an index, but you're limited to just the terms the author/publisher thought were relevant, plus the search takes much longer.

      I use Calibre to organize my ebook library, so it's trivial to find books I want. I can sort on author, title, series, tag, or whatever other piece of data I feel like. With physical books, you're limited to one sort. Try changing the sort order on your physical library. Go ahead. I dare you.

      Reading a paperback book requires you to hold the page open. It's admittedly not a lot of work, but that nearly constant exertion over possibly hours can get really annoying, especially for an activity that's supposed to be relaxing. And if your hands slip, you've lost your place. With an ebook reader, you can just sit the thing in your lap or on a desk. Hands-free except when turning the page.

      When I'm having conversations with my friends about books we've read and we want to check something from the book, I can pull out my tablet (which I always keep with me) and look it up right there. Try doing that with your physical books, assuming you don't know ahead of time which book you're going to discuss.

      And those are just the advantages I can think of off the top of my head.

      Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of areas where physical books excel. I just think it's disingenous to so flippantly dismiss ebooks simply because they don't align with the way you read books. For some people, paper books are the clear winner. For others (like me), ebooks are the clear winner. And you know what? That's okay. There's nothing wrong with them coexisting.

    4. Re:Physical books are better by jandrese · · Score: 2

      When I want something that can fit in my pants pocket, ebooks fail - but paperbacks deliver.

      What kind of e-reader are you using? A regular size Kindle is way thinner and about the same size otherwise as a typical paperback. It is also quite a bit lighter. Even if you put a protective case on it, the thing will still be no less portable than a dead tree book.

      I read most of my ebooks on my phone, which obviously fits in my pocket just fine.

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  5. Re:Books and watches are in the same bag by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    To be fair, an e-reader lasts weeks on a charge. I very rarely (maybe never?) charge my old Kindle while on vacation - it certainly won't run out on the plane.

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  6. Wonderful DRM misfeatures by Microlith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I can buy ebooks without respect to region, I'll hop on board. But as it stands, I can't buy books published outside my home country, and as we've seen in the past, if you take your ebooks outside the country and your reader goes on line (particularly the Kindle) it'll lock you out of your books.

    On top of that, the ebooks cost more than the paperback.

    Get back to me when obvious negatives aren't being piled on to ebooks.

    1. Re:Wonderful DRM misfeatures by dwpro · · Score: 2

      I've never had a problem overseas with my books being region locked, and I can't imagine that's a huge problem. You can download unencumbered books from all over the place, or rip them and strip the DRM if it bothers you which has the added benefit of being able to share books more easily :)

      Rarely have I ever seen the price of an e-book be as much as a paperback (but e-books are still overpriced in my mind).

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  7. Re:I'll stick with the analog option for now ... by TWX · · Score: 2

    There's a difference though. At a minimum to use a vinyl record player I have to have electrical power, a record-player that's in good working order, and a record that's playable. This is basically the same set of considerations for playing any music recorded on to a physical medium that's machine-interpreted, be it CD, tape, player-piano, minidisc, phonograph cylinder, whatever, with the exception that there are a few mechanically-powered forms (phonograph disc, phonograph cylinder, and player-piano) where there are entirely mechanical machines that come with their own issues.

    To read a book I need the book, at least for approximately 50% of the day, and the other 50% of the day I'm stuck with the same constraints as I am for anything else in the form of the availability of artificial light.

    For e-book readers, depending on the reader, I need a power source to at least charge, and I need to connect the reader to another device (at least minimally a computer in the retailer if my e-book reader lacks any kind of network/wifi, but most likely a computer or wifi at home). For readers that go a VERY long time I still need a light source, or for readers that work in the dark I need to be able to replace or recharge batteries frequently.

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  8. Re:No change by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The obvious first market for ebooks has been anything you read sequentially, like novels. Ebook adoption climbs a hill for works you need to jump around in. That grease-thumbed reference book you keep beside your workbench will be the physical book's last stand.

    As the application interface improves for ebooks, some advantages of the medium will open up, such as the ability to search fast and to display complex, interactive charts. In a few years you will be able to have your reference ebook standing up on the workbench so that you can say, "Hey Siri! Play me the install sequence for the right front wheel motor starting from Step 4!"

    While we wait for that halcyon day, can we at least have the Kindle app give us a straight count of 'pages left in chapter' rather than trying to compute some mythical reading time?

  9. A Book is an Artifact, an E-book is data. by Irick · · Score: 2

    Are art museums going to go out and replace all of their exhibits with HDPI IPS displays? No. The displays may be far more versatile but they also do not embody a work. They simply display it. A printed book both contains and embodies the contained text. That simple visceral realness of holding an artifact contributes not only to our willingness to step into the magic circle of the book but signals the beginning of a cultural ritual.

    Reading is a form of magic that is wholly contained within our culture. Ebooks are yet another step in democratizing the cultural ritual and print on demand publication will provide the methodology to fully entrench these new pieces of culture within the canonic regalia. In ten years the significance of the printed word will not fade even as access becomes more and more trivial because they are canonic to the medium itself. They are inherently part of how we understand all written language in the same way that a live performance is inherently part of how we understand music (even principally electronic musicians engage in the ritual of live music).

    Authors go on book tours and connect with their reader base in other ways but the single most defining ritual in the whole of literature has been the receipt of a book. As we go forward this will always be a landmark of success as well as an important if not centrally defining artifact of the medium.

    Photography did not displace painting, it displaced the cultural focus on realism in painting. It displaced painting as a medium of simple depiction of the natural world and instead brought a greater implicit understanding of visual composition and other fundimntal principles of art into the every day culture. Likewise, I think that as ebooks become more and more accessible we will see /more/ veneration for the printed medium, perhaps in ways that were previously reserved only for bibliophiles.

    The cultural acceptance of technology that is simultaneously legitimized as a medium for art and developed into a nearly risk free scratch pad for personal exploration has historically brought a wider and deeper appreciation. It happened once with the desktop publishing revolution and I believe as people begin to ask themselves /why/ they prefer the printed word over the ebook a deeper understanding of the artistry of the medium will develop.

    I think it already has to a degree.

    1. Re:A Book is an Artifact, an E-book is data. by Irick · · Score: 2

      It is not a conflation to call an art art, nor is it inappropriate to use more than one interpretive lens. We shouldn't ignore the critical developments of the last hundred years just because the medium predates it. Authorial intent is one lens, but art is not just about expression it is also about interpretation. This is the ritual of language and of semiotics.

      Does a dimestore paperback change the reading of a book compared to a leatherbound copy? I'd argue that it does. Does an e-book? Absolutely. Just as the mode of listening to a song changes from concert to radio to album so can the mode of reading a book. Cultural context will always inform interpretation.

      That's not to say that the choices of the typesetter, editor or proofreader takes away from the vision of the author. We could borrow from film's Auteur theory :3 A line from The Tell-Tale Heart is still a line from The Tell-Tale Heart whether or not it is represented on a screen, the pages of a book, the foreground of a painting or put on needlework on a throw pillow. However, would you read them the same in each instance?

      What if it was a caption under the picture of a cat?

      I would argue that a physical book is enough of a cultural context switch to be both meaningfully different and yet the same. As I equally enjoy Pink Floyd's money as a single or as part of an album, I also know that it is substantially different to me in each listening.

  10. Re:eBooks will continue to gain market share by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    There's no book nostalgia like the smell of leather-bound editions you have never bought in your life read before the baronial fireplace you have never owned.

  11. Oh the humanity! by lq_x_pl · · Score: 2

    It is always comical to read the back-and-forths over topics like this. There are benefits and drawbacks of each medium, but arguing over which one is better is like arguing over which flavor of jam is superior.

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  12. Re:It's almost like..... by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're being sarcastic, right? That's exactly what they're doing, and they are lying through their teeth when they claim it costs just as much to publish an e-book, and all the people supporting the companies by claiming it costs just as much because of editing are either lying or stupidly buying the nonsense the book companies are selling.

    E-books are great for a lot of reasons - I have shelves of physical books at home that I have no idea what to do with; libraries don't want them (they have too many of these kinds of books that our kids are reading, they have enough); you can't sell them at garage sales (nobody buys them), you can't donate them to the school (they don't want to be overwhelmed with everybody's used books - they get enough). I can sell them to the used book store for credit, but now I have hundreds of dollars in credit and they have few things I want... I can't use the credit on new books.

    E-books let me:

    • Keep them forever and reread them years in the future without having to take up physical space.
    • While looking up things in physical text books is easier, my kids have 2 or 3 really huge books that they carry around all day and have to bring home, so having the physical book at home and taking an e-book to school would be great.
    • Take my whole library on vacation.
    • Theoretically should never go out of print.

    Physical books:

    • Don't violate my rights to resell them.
    • I don't get screwed if I somehow lose my Amazon or Barnes and Noble accounts.
    • Are nice to hold while reading, and don't need batteries.
    • Can be lent indefinitely to as many people as I want.
    • Textbooks are easier to use this way; any reference book is easier to use this way, although reference books (where you look something up) should rather be turned into apps in the future that allow for easier searching.

    As it is, with the absurd pricing of e-books, it often makes more sense to buy the physical book. The publishers are %#king 4$#holes.

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  13. Re:Why I Still Buy Physical Tech & Science Boo by gfxguy · · Score: 2

    Your reasons are all good, but there's a few caveats for a lot of other people. My kids don't buy their textbooks in high school, so they aren't writing in the margins or making notes. They also have to carry them around ALL DAY (the lockers are not satisfactory), and my son's latest books are as big as the biggest physics books I had in college.

    What I wish they could do is have them as e-books while in school and leave the huge, physical book at home. The school offers "online" textbooks, but the stupid school has a mixed message about using tablets in school, and doesn't even give them wifi access when they can (and no, I don't pay for cell access for their tablets). For the same reasons (mixed message on tablets) my daughter prefers a physical book even for regular reading, because she can carry it around and read it anywhere. My son is happy enough to leave the reading for home, so gets e-books.

    But on the whole, text and reference books are simply different... again, a single e-reader is a damn site better than carrying around 2 or more huge textbooks, but for doing homework or something, having the physical book there is nice.

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  14. Re:Used books often less expensive than the ebook by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

    Amazon lists dozens (for me at least) of books for $0.01+$3.99 shipping from third parties. It has been a long time since I've bought new book and read maybe 20/year. They make great gifts too when you are done.

  15. Jury is out by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    Until eBooks reflect their true price considering lack of cost to distribute and print, I'm not sure how you can say they are 'coexisting'. eBooks often exceed the cost of their physical books.

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  16. In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    In other news, you can still buy buggy whips, dial-style telephones, and vinyl records, too.

    Nostalgia and straight-up Luddite-like behavior are enough to keep almost anything going at some level -- no matter how low its actual utility as compared to more recent replacement tech may be.

    Hell, I own a vacuum tube stereo system made by Scott in the 1950's -- my father bought it when it was new, it's been with the family ever since, and now it is mine. I'm really quite fond of it in the "I actually use it" sense, though considered in the light of my home theater system, it's neither particularly functional or particularly high quality (though in its day, it absolutely was The Shite.) Still, it glows in the dark in a most pleasing manner. :)

    I keep it in my office and enjoy listening to it regularly. My physical book collection, however... several thousand volumes... in boxes in the basement. I am a total convert to e-books. Textbooks, fiction, reference material... all right in my pocket, 100% accessible 100% of the time in 100% of the places I go (unless I'm diving or swimming, but hey. And I could get a waterproof, good to X-depth case for my phone, and then... :)

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    1. Re: In other news by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

      My basement is climate-controlled -- humidity and temperature -- so no worries there. If I run into anyone who wants the textbooks here, I'll gladly hand them over. Might be a long wait, though. Small rural town. Football trumps engineering by quite a bit here. :)

      The SF collection is a business asset, so it stays. But it stays in boxes for now.

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  17. Re:Different does not mean excluding... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Well it depends on how broadly one interprets your question - she did, at one point, eat a calculator.

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  18. Re:Books and watches are in the same bag by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    If you want to read at the beach or at the pool, it's the only game in town.

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