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US Weighs Sanctioning Russia As Well As China In Cyber Attacks
New submitter lvbees7 writes with news that U.S. officials have warned that the government may impose sanctions against Russia and China following cyber attacks to commercial targets. According to the Reuters story: The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said no final decision had been made on imposing sanctions, which could strain relations with Russia further and, if they came soon, cast a pall over a state visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping in September. The Washington Post first reported the Obama administration was considering sanctioning Chinese targets, possibly within the next few weeks, and said that individuals and firms from other nations could also be targeted. It did not mention Russia.
A little consistence would be nice.
Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em NOW!
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"It's only ok when we do it"
Cant say Im too bothered about sanctioning Russia or not but China cant come soon enough.
Next India.
Im not interested in political sanctions of these countries - only environmental ones.
India and China have outsourced the West's pollution. They are building factories and power stations by the week with a 19th century regard [lack of] to the environment.
Europe and the US (reluctantly) have signed up to aggressive environmental change programs - India and China are dragging their heels.
Sanction them. Exclude them from the world market.
Dont buy their products. They'll stop making all this crap if we refuse to buy it - or even better - keep making this crap, but do it responsibly.
So will they also sanction themselves? The US is by far the worst perpetrator in this regard.
Unfortunately the word "consistency" is extremely difficult to be had, from that particular nation which accuses others of violating 'human rights' while itself violating the human rights of others
Pollute like the earth was going out of style? Meh. Murder your own people? Meh. Play thought police at a level that would make Big Brother jealous. Meh. Invade a neighboring country? Meh. But steal a database or two? Now THAT really pisses me off.
These clueless morons.
How many attacks against Chinese and Russian entities do they think originate in the U.S and what will they feel if these nations sanction the U.S. in their most effective way?
How many attacks from China or Russia are false flag operations(bot nets)?
You can't use legislation to provide security. Legislation stops no one from doing anything. The whole idea is moronic.
The world should set up trade embargo on the USA due to the NSA spying..
Send them home enmass carrying the contagion of US culture. Assimilate our foes.
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
With sanctions China and Russia will stop importing so much expensive, exotic, bespoke US designed computer system hardware.
How is US Tailored Access Operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... going to get to the exported hardware if its not been shipped around the world?
Without that secret spyware and hardware been installed as delivered how will the product sold be found on an open network again?
The US mil had the right idea in the 1990's - flood the export market with tame US brands and watch as every nation installs ever more complex trap doored networked products.
All sanctions do is support local production and reduce the need to even considering any tame Western brands.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Reform may have been the the benign goal of the surveillance leaks, but as that just hasn't happened, the bar where right vs. wrong is set has been lowered along with the stock that is the United States.
Perhaps worse than people not caring (enough) that their whole world is fast becoming an Orwellian nightmare, we are now left without a credible nation to voice the message of Worldly evil.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
Take environment
US blames China / India for polluting the world's environment while the usage of fossil fuel per population in the US is several times that of China and India combined
Take Human Rights
US blames China / Russia of violating human rights while the US itself violating the human rights of its own citizens by spying on them - from intercepting mobile phone signals (via stingrays) to wiretapping to whatever that they can think of
US of A is also the country whereby the ratio of imprisoned citizen per capita is 5 times that of China (which supposed to be evil, according to the US of A)
Take Terrorism
US blames the Muslims for terrorism but it was US and its allies who have fucked up the power balance in the Middle East to begin with. With the killing of Saddam Hussein of Iraq and Qaddafi of Libya, and the current push to topple the Sadad regime in Syria, the Middle Eastern region is engulfed in a huge rage of turmoil and strives, the perfect breeding ground for terrorists
To Uncle Sam, it's always "THEM" who fuck-up.
Uncle Sam never ever blames himself for causing all the fuckups of others.
Just wondering.. we already monitor 100% of traffic leaving our shores, why can't we use that deep packet inspection to build a firewall?
Plus, we could whitelist packets from known addresses and charge a penny per packet for "trusted" delivery. That sucking sound you would hear is all of the call centers and offshore support organizations being sucked back to our shores....
Seriously people.
Get it together
They are bad actors. The US will cross swords with both eventually.
That's like when my 4 year old tells me he's the boss of the house.
The US is a rapidly declining power. The rest of the world has already surpassed us and all we can do is talk about sanctioning the new superpowers. Way to go America.
They want it badly. They know the American Century is over and they'd rather blow up the whole world rather than see someone else take their place.
You sure you want to sanction the only method you have of getting people/cargo to and from the ISS?
Over other things... arguably... but hacking? No. pardon snowden and don't engage in that sort of behavior for a decade and you MIGHT get some credibility there. But what value is it to the US to sanction anyway?
We probably get more out of hacking than the sanctions anyway.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
China: where everything is made, with a big-ass army and 1 billion people
Russia: where all the oil is, with a big-ass army and a stubbornness that seems like 1 billion people
Good luck with those "sanctions" USA!