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US Weighs Sanctioning Russia As Well As China In Cyber Attacks
New submitter lvbees7 writes with news that U.S. officials have warned that the government may impose sanctions against Russia and China following cyber attacks to commercial targets. According to the Reuters story: The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said no final decision had been made on imposing sanctions, which could strain relations with Russia further and, if they came soon, cast a pall over a state visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping in September. The Washington Post first reported the Obama administration was considering sanctioning Chinese targets, possibly within the next few weeks, and said that individuals and firms from other nations could also be targeted. It did not mention Russia.
A little consistence would be nice.
Pollute like the earth was going out of style? Meh. Murder your own people? Meh. Play thought police at a level that would make Big Brother jealous. Meh. Invade a neighboring country? Meh. But steal a database or two? Now THAT really pisses me off.
India and China have outsourced the West's pollution. They are building factories and power stations by the week with a 19th century regard [lack of] to the environment.
You do realize that this is exactly the reason a lot of *American* companies are building/using factories in China., right?
On a side note, you cannot just sanction Russia + China + India + Iran + N.Korea + Syria + Lybia + $evil_state_of_the_week since this would isolate the USA from most of the world's economy. Not to mention that the USA still relies on Russian rockets to get to the space station.
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Send them home enmass carrying the contagion of US culture. Assimilate our foes.
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With sanctions China and Russia will stop importing so much expensive, exotic, bespoke US designed computer system hardware.
How is US Tailored Access Operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... going to get to the exported hardware if its not been shipped around the world?
Without that secret spyware and hardware been installed as delivered how will the product sold be found on an open network again?
The US mil had the right idea in the 1990's - flood the export market with tame US brands and watch as every nation installs ever more complex trap doored networked products.
All sanctions do is support local production and reduce the need to even considering any tame Western brands.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Reform may have been the the benign goal of the surveillance leaks, but as that just hasn't happened, the bar where right vs. wrong is set has been lowered along with the stock that is the United States.
Perhaps worse than people not caring (enough) that their whole world is fast becoming an Orwellian nightmare, we are now left without a credible nation to voice the message of Worldly evil.
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Just wondering.. we already monitor 100% of traffic leaving our shores, why can't we use that deep packet inspection to build a firewall?
Plus, we could whitelist packets from known addresses and charge a penny per packet for "trusted" delivery. That sucking sound you would hear is all of the call centers and offshore support organizations being sucked back to our shores....
IMHO, countries that care about pollution should set up a Pollution-Added Tax (PAT), equivalent to VAT, replacing their current patchwork of pollution regulations. Since VAT is already clearly in compliance with WTO rules (given that it exists), PAT should be as well. Just like how VAT works by taxing products at each stage of adding value to them during manufacture, PAT would tax them by the embodied pollution in their manufacture during that stage (plus any "delayed" pollution released when the product is consumed). And like VAT, PAT goods for export would receive a full tax rebate, and goods for import from non-PAT states would be taxed on entry.
The main point is that states with weaker pollution regulations cannot gain an unfair economic advantage over states with stronger pollution regulations. Thus it encourages even non-member-states to tighten their regulations.
Stale pastry is hollow succor to one who is bereft of ostrich.
"Sanction them. Exclude them from the world market".
Assuming much? We have already seen how sanctions on Russia have stimulated its economy while seriously damaging Europe's. I seriously wonder which of those (or both) the US government finds more rewarding.
The important question, however, is why the US government thinks that it can "exclude" other countries "from the world market". Given that the USA has less than 5 percent of the world's population, and has been spectacularly successful in lining up dozens of other nations against its policies - including several of the world's largest. They started by placing sanctions on Russia (see the link below). Now they want to sanction China. Maybe India and Brazil might follow - four out of the five BRICS nations. But at some point, when less than 5 percent of the world's population starts sanctioning and excluding others, one wonders just who is excluding and who is being excluded. Or maybe someone is contriving to exclude themselves?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
Don't pull Superman's cape.
But without his cape, he's just Clark Kent.
Back on topic, this is just another sign that the American government has gone batshit crazy.
1. Export most of our manufacturing to China.
2. Impose sanctions on China.
3. ???
This is why the WTO sucks. Tariffs give you leverage to negotiate both commercial and political issues. Trading with the USA is a privilege, not a right.
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if you are willing to pay a bit more for quality?
The real question is - can you afford the quality?
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But we don't do what they're talking about. It's a specific kind of cybercrime.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Over other things... arguably... but hacking? No. pardon snowden and don't engage in that sort of behavior for a decade and you MIGHT get some credibility there. But what value is it to the US to sanction anyway?
We probably get more out of hacking than the sanctions anyway.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
China: where everything is made, with a big-ass army and 1 billion people
Russia: where all the oil is, with a big-ass army and a stubbornness that seems like 1 billion people
Good luck with those "sanctions" USA!
There's also a move away from English as second language - Portuguese and Chinese (and German, for some reason) becoming more popular by the minute.
I'm taking a wild guess you're Brazilian?
No one else believes that Portugese is a major world language, even people from Portugal.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it