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Can Living In Total Darkness For 5 Days "Reset" the Visual System?

the_newsbeagle writes: That's what one neuroscientist is aiming to find out. He wants to put patients with a type of amblyopia, the vision problem commonly called lazy eye, into the dark for 5 days. His hypothesis: When they emerge, their brains' visual cortices will be temporarily "plastic" and changeable, and may begin to process the visual signals from their bad eyes correctly. Before he could do this study, though, he had to do a test run to figure out logistics. So he himself lived in a pitch black room for 5 days. One finding: Eating ravioli in the dark is hard.

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  1. This is called Kaya Kalpa in yoga by Visarga · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's supposed that if you can do it for 10 days, your visual cortex will start processing other input and add its extra processing power to your meditations. Here's a link to a presentation: http://hridaya-yoga.com/how-to...

    1. Re:This is called Kaya Kalpa in yoga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That seems like a really bad idea for people who still need their visual cortex for vision. If you want to jack up the wiring in your brain, just abuse dangerous drugs. It'll save you a lot of time.

    2. Re: This is called Kaya Kalpa in yoga by karlandtanya · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It took about 5 minutes for me, but had to be *total* dakness. So dark I couldn't tell if my eyes were open or shut. This was in a lab where we were doin nuclear emission spectroscopy (just gas discharge tubes). Any outside light would pollute the results, so the lab was really dark until we turned on the juice.
      During that period I could see as clearly as i'm seeing this screen flowing sheets of glowing pastel paint sliding down a wall that wasn't there.
      Not true hallucinations of course--by definition if you know it's not real it's not a hallucination. Phosphenes I think they were called.

      Anyhow, very beautiful and unusual. I don't think my lab partners saw anything--at least they didn't say they did. Or they were afraid people would think they were nuts.

      Later i blacked out my dorm room & reproduced the effect. And learned it's really hard to produce absolute darkness. Tinfoil is *full* of tiny holes! And black paint is not as opaque as it seems.

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      "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
    3. Re:This is called Kaya Kalpa in yoga by dingleberrie · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know what you mean by "jack up the wiring" but mushrooms will probably get you there and they're not dangerous.

      And they grow in the dark!
      I'm sensing an opportunity for synergy here.

  2. Wait for the results. by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it a story that someone has a hypothesis? Do the tests, publish your findings.

  3. Where are his grad students? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    >> Eating ravioli in the dark is hard.

    Isn't this what grad students were invented for?

  4. Testing by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think that it's that he's willing to use himself as a test subject before inflicting it on others, fairly rare today.

    Not that I suggest a heart surgeon do a transplant on himself or that a doctor inject himself with insulin if he's not diabetic...

    But living in complete darkness for ~5 days can have unexpected developments/difficulties, it's probably best to NOT inflict that on kids until you know what to look for.

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    I don't read AC A human right
    1. Re:Testing by doconnor · · Score: 5, Informative

      Barry Marshall, who discovered ulcers where caused by a bacterial infection, tested it by drink a petri dish of the bacteria and got gastritis and then cured himself with antibiotics.

      Got the Nobel prize.

    2. Re:Testing by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's a long history of doctors and scientists in medicine testing their ideas on themselves.

  5. Not a good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

  6. Overkill by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not just glue them a mask on their face?
    Way cheaper.

  7. Re:not even a lil LED ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... And what can you do? ...

    Edit Slashdot stories.

  8. Number 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can you tell if you are done wiping?

    1. Re:Number 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Taste each wad of paper before dropping it into the toilet. Duh!!!

    2. Re: Number 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Fold paper in half; if it sticks together, keeping wiping.

    3. Re: Number 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fold paper in half; if it sticks together, keeping wiping.

      +1. This one knows his shit.

  9. Ravioli tastes better by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, but eating the grad students in the dark is really no easier, and the ravioli tends to taste better.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    1. Re:Ravioli tastes better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've eaten a grad student in the dark. It wasn't that hard. I knew anatomy and she appreciated the effort.

    2. Re:Ravioli tastes better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It wasn't that hard.

      You're doing it wrong.

  10. Re:Blindfold Anyone? by Etcetera · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not use a blindfold for 5 days?

    Are these people stupid or just trying to make everything more difficult than it seems?

    A) Some light is likely to get in, and they would need to be in a mostly-dark room regardless to account for slip-ups. Even then, they wanted to get 100% darkness, not 99.5% darkness (by timeslice)
    B) Ever worn a sleep mask or eye pillow? Your eye does different things when it's covered or has pressure on it (and a lot of pressure would need to be applied here, most likely). Having your eye "free" to look around (but having no source of light in the room) is likely to be physiologically different than wearing a dark blindfold.

  11. Re:Blindfold Anyone? by slew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FWIW The most common treatment today for lazy eye (Amblyopia) is to simply patch (i.e., think pirate patch) your good eye and hope your brain will stop relying on your good eye and start learning how to see again through eye that the brain was ignoring (suppressing). So it is basically a type of blindfold for one eye.

    For children with lazy eye, the patch is generally worn for a few hours a day for 6 months to a year. The older you are, the less well patching works (presumably because your brain is less plastic in these regards).

    However, new research suggests that there might be a way to retrain your brain (without resorting to trying to "reboot" your brain) by a form of vision therapy that attempts to reinvigorate the part of your brain that uses both eyes to see, by forcing it to exercise.

    One researcher has been experimenting with having people play a special version of tetris where each eye gets part of the information and the brain has to integrate both views to successfully play the game. Initially each eye would get a version that would be easy to fuse (depending on the problem that caused the lazy eye, such as out-of-alignment/direction), as the treatment progressed, the versions would progress toward the normal viewing. Seems like they got reasonably good initial results which were better than patching

    Maybe not every problem needs to be solved by rebooting the system.