Survey: More Women Are Going Into Programming
itwbennett writes: We've previously discussed the dearth of women in computing. Indeed, according to U.S. Bureau and Labor Statistics estimates, in 2014 four out of five programmers and software developers in the U.S. were men. But according to a survey conducted this spring by the Application Developers Alliance and IDC, that may be changing. The survey of 855 developers worldwide found that women make up 42% of developers with less than 1 year of experience and 30% of those with between 1 and 5 years of experience. Of course, getting women into programming is one thing; keeping them is the next big challenge.
Perhaps we could move the craft forward rather than focusing on the players?
I graduated with a masters degree in CS in 2008, and as such now have 7 years job experience. Watching the other women I graduated with it's entirely a retention issue. The reasons for why they left the field were wildly varying, but I only know of two who graduated with me who are still in the industry out of maybe twenty.
I keep the sexual harassment forms in the bottom drawer of my desk.
That way when a woman goes to get one, I can check out her ass.
Trolling is a art,
In all my years working in IT I have NEVER seen the kind of behavior that is claimed. Women get out of IT because IT sucks. It's incredibly socially isolating (working with a machine all day). *Most* women want much more inter-personal interaction. That's a fact.
They're not going to be tossed out as obsolete. As another poster above noted, women are a majority, not a minority. Just not in actual coding; they're a majority in places in management, project management, testing, and UI design. So the women are concentrating (smartly, I'll add) in things which will be the last things to be outsourced, if ever, and aren't as subject to age discrimination. As usual, this shows that women in general are more social than men, and move into jobs which require more socializing and less of just keeping your nose stuck to a monitor all day, even when it involves working with men who do exactly this.
Thank God I'm working IT in the government sector. I'm 46-years-old and surrounded by other gray beards like myself. Can't outsource my job when a security clearance is involved.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the 80s were a better time. Everything went down the tubes with the invention of grunge music.
The fact that 48% of first programmers are women does nothing to show more women are getting into programming. It is entirely possible (and maybe probable) that it's been 48% for a long time, and what we're seeing is not more women getting into programming but that a lot of them are getting out again quickly.
Do women programmer's live in their dad's basement? Just asking...
Stories about women in tech always bring out the best in Slashdot readers.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It is very common for women to enter IT side in India. In the recent years more women are graduating from college, more women are getting engineering and medical degrees than men in India.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Again, I have 30 years experience in this field and I have never, ever seen that. Guess what? Engineering salaries are far higher than temp workers. Engineers do not get asked to watch the phones regardless of gender. Have you graduated with your BS yet?
The main problem is that a lot of firms talk about diversity, but aren't great on actually hiring women in tech. And when they get hired, getting shunted into more "traditional" roles, like being asked to cover the phones or front desk (as a female) when the male interns aren't asked to do that.
I would be really interested if you had evidence of this, because it goes directly contrary to my experience.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
...more programmers are going into women, if you catch my drift. And I think you do, being the ever so smart programmer yourself.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Well one thing that comes to mind is that some of the best programmers tend to be of personality type INTJ. The frequency of INTJ in male vs. female population is clearly shown to be radically different. Let's look at all of the INTx types:
Intellectuals (NT)
Population Male Female
ENTJ - Chief 4% 5.5% 2.5%
ENTP - Originator 4.5% 6% 3%
INTJ - Strategist 1.5% 2.5% 0.5%
INTP - Engineer 2.5% 4% 1%
All NTs 12.5% 18% 7%
Seems to pretty clearly show why we might have a difference in the number of male vs. female programmers, huh? I doubt the males are forcing personality types on them.