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Windows Telemetry Rolls Out

ihtoit writes: Last week came the warning, now comes the roll out. One of the most most controversial aspects of Windows 10 is coming to Windows 7 and 8. Microsoft has released upgrades which enable the company to track what a user is doing. The updates – KB3075249, KB3080149 and KB3068708 – all add "customer experience and diagnostic telemetry" to the older versions. gHacks points out that the updates will ignore any previous user preferences reporting: "These four updates ignore existing user preferences stored in Windows 7 and Windows 8 (including any edits made to the Hosts file) and immediately starts exchanging user data with vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com."

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  1. Re:Fuck Microsoft by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, Microsoft Fucks you!

  2. ... and Windows becomes less and less helpful by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The more data harvesting Microsoft performs, the less helpful for me Windows becomes.

    .
    I have a notebook that is used mainly for web browsing and email. Linux Mint was installed on that notebook (replacing Windows 7) over this past weekend.

    It's been a couple of years since I had looked into Linux Mint, and I was very surprised at how far it has come. While I foresee the need to do a few more tweaks with Linux Mint in order to make it more comfortable, I see no need to revert to Windows on this notebook.

    What really pissed me off about the data harvesting that Microsoft is doing with these updates is how Microsoft callously has ignored any wishes I had previously stated regarding my preferences for not harvesting data from my computers.

    1. Re:... and Windows becomes less and less helpful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What really pissed me off about the data harvesting that Microsoft is doing with these updates is how Microsoft callously has ignored any wishes I had previously stated regarding my preferences for not harvesting data from my computers.

      > "This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. This service provides benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded."

      Please, Microsoft, explain the benefits that are provided. You want to know why some of us wear tinfoil? Because words like "experience," "benefits," and "improvements" have been twisted into precisely the opposite of what they used to mean.

      > Included in this update: ...Reduces the network connections on a Windows system that doesnâ(TM)t participate in the Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP).

      If the customer has opted out, not one motherfucking byte should be transmitted. Not even the DNS query for the telemetry servers. What part of THE USER HAS OPTED OUT does Nadella not understand?

      And just to amplify that "not one motherfucking byte" concept -- NSA doesn't give a shit about what I fap to, PLA doesn't give a shit about my 8-bit microcomputer geeking, and FSB doesn't give a shit that I think Putin is a dick -- the point remains that even things as innocuous as error reporting have been, and will continue to be, used as attack vectors by state-sponsored actors.

      The user must, at all times, be able to make the tradeoff between usability and security, because once again, Microsoft has erred.

  3. Re:Time to switch to Linux... by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There will be new "updates" from Microsoft, so, no, unless you go examine every update thoroughly in a VM or something before installing, or stay at your current patch level forever, you're not safe.

    My question is how much of this is Microsoft's own idea and how much is being pushed by NSA. Windows 10 consumer versions not having the ability to turn off automatic updates, for example, seems like it's tailor made for the three letter agencies to use to install "special" updates on targeted computers - quite possibly those that show specific files or keywords in "telemetry" searches.

    Backing away from Microsoft seems sensible, but it's not going to solve the problem of a police state with panopticon wet dreams.

  4. Re:Oh, they're a big company, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    7 was good. 8 was crap. they skipped 9. the 'good' version we should have had and went right to 10. which is crap.

    the pattern still holds and will not be fooled by the numbers.

    so now we have to wait for 11. but there won't be an 11. just forever updates to 10 sticking that windows store deeper into your ass.

  5. Re:Very easy to get rid of... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So much for the (bogus) argument that Linux is harder to install and maintain; that Linux requires too much command line work to get it working.

  6. Microsoft Care by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft used to just hate Mac and Linux users. Good to see they're expanding that to Windows users too, they where beginning to feel left out.

  7. Re:Suicide by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the wall around the garden prevents me from doing what I want to do with a computer. That is worse then reporting what I'm doing any day.

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    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
  8. Re: Oh, they're a big company, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Start > Settings > System > Notifications & actions > Scroll down to "Show notifications from these apps" > Get Office > Off.

    The real issue isn't so much the telemetry, it's: "Why is there a 'Get Office' app in my OS anyways?"

    Let's call it what it is: when it was "Get Bonzi Buddy" or "Install The Ask Jeeves Toolbar!" it was malware. The "Get Office" app is also malware, and the people who designed it, developed it, and ordered its incorporation into the OS should all be shunned.

  9. Re:Oh, they're a big company, by cfalcon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that someone, somewhere, sucks worse is not a defense. Also, no other company is:
    1- As far reaching.
    2- Trusted with as many DESKTOP (read, vastly more important than "some webapp" or "some phone") hardwarez.

    Microsoft doing this is vastly worse than when other companies do it. Especially because almost everyone bitching about this actually uses Windows to at least some degree, and often doesn't use the other things, or carefully monitors their exposure to them. No safe computing will save you from a malicious OS.