Raspberry Pi Touch Screen Released

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Raspberry Pi Touch Screen Released

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday September 8, 2015 @06:40AM from the so-your-kids-will-shut-up-about-angry-birds dept.

An anonymous reader writes: The Raspberry Pi has been enormously successful, but one frequent request has been for the Foundation to create a simple touchscreen to go along with it. Gordon Hollingworth said, "I honestly believed it would only take us six months from start to end, but there were a number of issues we met (and other products diverted our attention from the display – like Rev 2.1, B+, A+, and Pi 2)." Now, after two years of development, they've launched a 7", 800x480 LCD that runs at 60 fps. The capacitive screen supports 10 simultaneous finger touches and has a 70 degree viewing angle. The Raspberry Pi Foundation's blog post provides some interesting technical background on electromagnetic compliance and how to connect and use the display.

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Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:52 · Score: -1

Wow, 800x600 running the unusually high framerate of 60 FPS for only $60! What a steal!
Fuck buying a whole tablet with a 720p display for the same price, this is obviously better because Raspberry Pi.
1. Re:Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:06 · Score: 0
  
  Wow, 800x600 running the unusually high framerate of 60 FPS for only $60! What a steal!
  Fuck buying a whole tablet with a 720p display for the same price, this is obviously better because Raspberry Pi.
  It's 800x480, but does support 10 finger multi-point touchscreen. Does not include a PI, you'll order that separately, so total price is about the same as the $99 amazon tablet things which does support 1280x600 60Hz.
2. Re:Amazing value! by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 07:09 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  so total price is about the same as the $99 amazon tablet things which does support 1280x600 60Hz.
  amazon tablet things don't have a GPIO header with signals broken out and a mature user libraries in many languages for using them. Nobody is saying that a raspberry pi is the same as a tablet.
3. Re:Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:15 · Score: 0
  
  I'm pretty sure the stupid AC a couple of posts above you drifted into the fantasy that the Pi and touchscreen are the same product category as a tablet. Maybe you should read what you're responding to.
4. Re:Amazing value! by nnull · 2015-09-08 07:29 · Score: 1
  
  I would love the Raspberry Pi to have a better processor that's comparable to modern tablets or the Intel Compute Stick.
5. Re:Amazing value! by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 07:37 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  I would love the Raspberry Pi to have a better processor that's comparable to modern tablets or the Intel Compute Stick.
  The new quad-core system is totally usable when running debian, even on an enormous monitor. Disk IO is sluggish but the processor and display are rocking. It's much snappier than the old pentium systems that I used for years.
6. Re:Amazing value! by frovingslosh · 2015-09-08 07:45 · Score: 1
  
  I prefer to think of it as a touch screen display that costs not much more than a low end full tablet with touch screen display.
  
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7. Re:Amazing value! by amiga3D · 2015-09-08 08:07 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  They are committed to keeping the price at $35. For the money that's a lot of bang. The thing is that it's useful for all kinds of things at an almost throw away price. Sure, for $100 I can get something that'll run rings around it. I can buy 3 Pi's for that price and do all kinds of projects. Actually I set up a camera network around the house with 6 of the A+ models that are just 20 bucks apiece. They use next to no power and if it gets fried I'm only out 20 dollars. These things aren't really for normal computing, they are for hobbyists and educators.
8. Re:Amazing value! by amiga3D · 2015-09-08 08:10 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  It's about equivalent to a Pentium III. I've been playing around with one and I made the mistake of trying to run Scorched3d on it. That was really pretty sad. Solitaire rips though! I have to say although it's usable as a desktop I can pick up a curb throw away computer that will easily out do it. The place the Pi shines is with things like home automation and car computers and things like that. The only limit is your own creativity.
9. Re:Amazing value! by alvinrod · 2015-09-08 09:12 · Score: 1
  
  The AC was just making a crap troll post. He could have just as easily complained that the display is too big and doesn't come with a user-changeable wristband, so there's no way it can compete with an Android smartwatch which you can get for ~$150.
10. Re:Amazing value! by AndyKron · 2015-09-08 09:55 · Score: 1
  
  Ya, but the Amazon model won't have a bunch of geeky wires all around it.
11. Re:Amazing value! by quenda · 2015-09-08 12:32 · Score: 1
  
  It's about equivalent to a Pentium III.
  
  Pi 1 or 2? In CPU and disk maybe, but the Pi does have fast graphics - will do full-HD HTPC duty, unlike your kerb find. As well as the hardware i/o.
12. Re:Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 15:07 · Score: 0
  
  Or for $99 you can get an quad core, 64-bit Intel Atom based tablet with 1280x800 60Hz 10 point touch screen, 2GB RAM, 32GB flash storage, 2MP front and rear cameras, micro USB 2.0, full size USB 3.0, micro SDXC and micro HDMI ports. For $59 you can also get about the same, except with half the RAM and half the storage space. An entire compact PC that you can hack to your heart's delight.
  Only a fucking moron would buy a Raspberry Pi.
13. Re:Amazing value! by youngone · 2015-09-08 15:07 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, I made the mistake of trying to use a Pi as a desktop PC too, it's really not for that. As a Media Centre though it's awesome. Also a timelapse camera, and a digital photo frame it's great too.
14. Re:Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 15:09 · Score: 0
  
  And a PC tablet has much more mature libraries than the Raspberry Pi which has only existed for a couple of years compared to the decades long reign of x86.
15. Re:Amazing value! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-09 03:41 · Score: 0
  
  Faster, and has a SATA port
  http://www.bananapi.com/
16. Re:Amazing value! by amiga3D · 2015-09-09 13:02 · Score: 1
  
  It's okay as a desktop PC but it's really shines for other computing uses. The graphics really are nice in 2D but 3D is a different matter. I do have one behind the TV serving up movies and tv shows. I'll have to drag out my old PIII laptop and run some comparisons in things like converting a CD to mp3 files. I remember doing that on a dual Pentium 2/333 box. I know it wasn't as fast as my i7 Mac Mini for sure. I'm amazed at CPU power compared to 15 years ago. I started with an 8bit C64 clocked at 1mhz with 64KB of RAM. Sometimes I see people call things like the Raspberry Pi slow and it makes me laugh. I wonder if anyone has even tried ripping a CD with an RPi?
17. Re:Amazing value! by quenda · 2015-09-09 20:08 · Score: 1
  
  I wonder if anyone has even tried ripping a CD with an RPi?
  My Pi runs Kodi, including converting AAC 5.1 to DD/AC3, or stereo upmix, on the fly, so I don't think ripping CDs will be a challenge :)
18. Re:Amazing value! by amiga3D · 2015-09-10 12:05 · Score: 1
  
  I actually found several videos on this subject on youtube when I finally looked. One guy has a video of using his pi as a headless cd ripper. Pretty cool stuff.
Not for cars by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:52 · Score: 3, Informative

At 194mmX110mm it's just a wee bit too big for the standard double DIN stereo slot. Bummer.
1. Re:Not for cars by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 09:18 · Score: 0
  
  F.W.I.W. 180 x 100 mm is the double DIN standard.
  That is also the metal box size, the cut-out in the dash. There is still some room in most cars for a bezel around it, whether or not you'll have the 2+ cm width and 1+ cm height to play with in your car is another story. I, for one, am going to take out my stereo and do some measurements to see if I might be able to get this to work.
  The product page says 155mm x 86mm viewable display, which could certainly be tucked behind a custom printed dash section and provide roughly the same viewable area as double-DIN stereos.
As always... by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:54 · Score: -1

Don't touch your PiPi.
Apple CarPlay? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:54 · Score: 0

Could this be an alternative to CarPlay?
Available for a long time by elgatozorbas · 2015-09-08 06:55 · Score: 3, Informative

Good that the Foundation has now released their own screen, but touchscreens for the rpi have been available for a long time, most of them looking more customized for the rpi than this one..
1. Re:Available for a long time by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 06:59 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  most of them looking more customized for the rpi than this one.
  RTFA:
  "Using DSI keeps the Pi's HDMI port free, so people can use both the small touchscreen display and a big monitor or TV simultaneously."
  maybe you can provide a list of other touchscreen vendors that are using the DSI interface?
2. Re:Available for a long time by PolygamousRanchKid+ · 2015-09-08 07:00 · Score: 0
  
  I've been using this one for a long time, and am completely satisfied with it: https://www.adafruit.com/produ...
  Although, that will depend on your application, and what you want to use it for. I just needed a bunch of icons that I could click for controlling a robot. I didn't do any browsing or text editing.
  
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3. Re:Available for a long time by elgatozorbas · 2015-09-08 07:21 · Score: 0
  
  maybe you can provide a list of other touchscreen vendors that are using the DSI interface?
  Maybe you should take a look at the link I provided already? Most of these displays don't use the HDMI interface. Instead they use the rpi's GPIOs (using spi or something ) to interface with the display. More importantly, they are mechanically customized to fit on the rpi and on the rpi only.
  I would say that is rather customized for the rpi.
4. Re:Available for a long time by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 07:32 · Score: 2
  
  Instead they use the rpi's GPIOs (using spi or something ) to interface with the display.
  
  The display update rate is awful, useless for video and marginal for scrolling. Also it consumes the SPI port which is usually why one gets a raspberry pi in the first place.
5. Re:Available for a long time by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:47 · Score: 1
  
  Less space than a nomad. Lame.
6. Re:Available for a long time by spire3661 · 2015-09-08 08:06 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  I have screens that mechanically mate with the pi from adafruit, and they are great, but they take special custom Raspbian to make it work and consume most of the GPIO. I have the adafruit kippah mated to a 7" 40 pin screen and i also have a 3.5" resistive touch screen Pi hat. Another thing you are overlooking is its hard to find CAPACITIVE touch in this size, most of it is resistive. I physically own the hardware you describe and i am excited about this new screen. The DSI interface and capacitive touch make it very interesting to me.
  
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7. Re:Available for a long time by elgatozorbas · 2015-09-08 08:21 · Score: 2
  
  The display update rate is awful, useless for video and marginal for scrolling. Also it consumes the SPI port which is usually why one gets a raspberry pi in the first place.
  All of that may be true, but doesn't change anything to my original statement that the Foundation's was not the first and not the most customised display board. There are other uses for a rpi than the SPI interface, and for many of those -controlling stuff, playing music, whatever!- no high refresh rate is needed, and a compact display is very useful.
8. Re:Available for a long time by Ulric · 2015-09-08 19:55 · Score: 1
  
  Instead they use the rpi's GPIOs (using spi or something ) to interface with the display.
  The display update rate is awful, useless for video and marginal for scrolling. Also it consumes the SPI port which is usually why one gets a raspberry pi in the first place.
  FWIW, I have had Pies since they were first released and have never used the SPI port.
10 fingers? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:55 · Score: 1

Only 10 simultaneous filter touches allowed? I have 15 fifteen fingers you insensitive clods!
1. Re:10 fingers? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:00 · Score: 0
  
  15 fifteen? Are you a cow?
2. Re:10 fingers? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:12 · Score: 0
  
  I have 15 fifteen fingers you insensitive clods!
  So are you showing your body to people for money?
3. Re:10 fingers? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:14 · Score: 0
  
  I've never seen a cow with fingers, much less 225 of them.
  225 FINGERS ARE NOT FOR COWS. MOOOOOOO.
4. Re:10 fingers? by rubycodez · 2015-09-08 07:30 · Score: -1, Offtopic
  
  Sometimes cows have fingers, you need to google bovine rectal palpitation
5. Re:10 fingers? by amiga3D · 2015-09-08 08:12 · Score: 1, Offtopic
  
  No.....no he doesn't.
6. Re:10 fingers? by Schmorgluck · 2015-09-08 08:50 · Score: 0
  
  Okay please someone with mod point skyrocket this to +5 funny.
  
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7. Re:10 fingers? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 23:57 · Score: 0
  
  They probally come from Kansas - 15 fingers is the minium default load out.
Seems Pricey by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:57 · Score: 0

With Amazon releasing a $50 table, this seems rather pricey to me.
But, at least there is a choice.
Raspberry Pi is for cows. by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:58 · Score: -1

You are all cows. Cows say moo. MOOOOOO! MOOOOOO! Moo cows MOOOOO! Moo say the cows. YOU COWS!!
ummm by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 06:58 · Score: 0

There's already been PLENTY of RPi compatible touchscreens (PiTFT).
With the culture of "Learn how to make it yourself" that the RPi was supposed to create, this is almost dissapointing that the foundation themselves are putting one out.
Too bad...I know it's supposed to be accessible to everyone, but it feeds into the "Why should I put the effort to learn/write stuff when someone's already got what I need for the right price?" mentality. I found most of the fun of this stuff to be figuring it out for myself.
1. Re:ummm by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 07:02 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  There's already been PLENTY of RPi compatible touchscreens (PiTFT).
  unlike all the others, this one uses the DSI interface so you can get good performance (unlike SPI displays) and you can also plug another monitor into the HDMI port.
2. Re:ummm by camperdave · 2015-09-08 07:26 · Score: 2
  
  I don't see an LCD multitouch display as a "make it yourself" venture. It's a component, like a stepper motor, or an ultrasonic range finder. Nobody is going to build one when they can buy one, unless building one is the project. It's like hand carving your own screws, or doping your own transistors. Sure, you COULD do it, but why would you?
  
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3. Re:ummm by nnull · 2015-09-08 07:38 · Score: 1
  
  Because the Raspberry Pi is now being used more than what they intended it to be used for. I'm actually using them in an industrial and commercial setting for display purposes and a touchscreen for machines. It's rock stable, no fans, doesn't break and being able to use python, Ethernet/IP (Yes, I wrote my own library for that because no one will because of the stupid licenses) and ModbusTCP, or even using the GPIO for input/outputs, and make my own UI interface is a big plus. It looks a thousand times better than Panelview, cheaper and faster.
4. Re:ummm by amiga3D · 2015-09-08 08:15 · Score: 1
  
  This sounds interesting. Could you maybe elaborate a bit more on how you're utilizing the Raspberry Pi?
5. Re:ummm by TemporalBeing · 2015-09-10 03:39 · Score: 1
  
  There's already been PLENTY of RPi compatible touchscreens (PiTFT).
  I've looked around. Yes there are quite a few. But how many are at that price (~$60 USD) and how many support 10 points of touch?
  
  Hint: Not many. Most are more expensive and/or only support 1-2 points of touch.
  Note: Most tablets only support 2-3 points of touch at most.
  
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But can it run Fallout Shelter? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:00 · Score: 0

That's what all the cool kids want to know.
1. Re:But can it run Fallout Shelter? by amiga3D · 2015-09-08 08:38 · Score: 1
  
  I've got two of them in my fallout shelter. One hooked to the sensor network. Radiation sensor and CO2 sensor.
2. Re:But can it run Fallout Shelter? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 12:03 · Score: 0
  
  How many PipBoys is that?
3. Re:But can it run Fallout Shelter? by IRGlover · 2015-09-09 01:26 · Score: 1
  
  the clue is in the name: 1 PipBoy = 1.5 Pi
Dual? by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:02 · Score: 0

Will you still be able to use the HDMI as well as this screen?
1. Re:Dual? by ledow · 2015-09-08 07:17 · Score: 2
  
  You could RTFA where it answers you.
2. Re:Dual? by camperdave · 2015-09-08 07:28 · Score: 1
  
  From The Fancy Article:
  
  The display has an 800×480 resolution, 10-finger capacitive touch capability, and an adapter board that is used both to power the display and connect to the Raspberry Pi with a DSI ribbon cable. Using DSI keeps the Pi's HDMI port free, so people can use both the small touchscreen display and a big monitor or TV simultaneously.
  
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3. Re:Dual? by Schmorgluck · 2015-09-08 08:58 · Score: 1
  
  I prefer "Funky" when I want to use the "F" in RTF* and still be polite, but I commend you for your restraint anyway.
  
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$Ug That is Way Over The Top$ by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:17 · Score: 0

And I thought the hardware grew on the vine? This is not cheap by any means. Wrong way.
1. Re:$Ug That is Way Over The Top$ by FranTaylor · 2015-09-08 07:23 · Score: 2
  
  And I thought the hardware grew on the vine? This is not cheap by any means. Wrong way.
  for low volume prototyping you are not going to find much cheaper
  consumer manufacturing does indeed produce very inexpensive devices, but for experimenting you need computers with GPIO headers and the software to use them and you are not going to find such things for cheap
10 simultaneous touches are not enough! by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 07:19 · Score: 0

I believe apple's next phone has 21 simultaneous touches! This Pi screen is obsolete before it hits the market.
1. Re:10 simultaneous touches are not enough! by Coren22 · 2015-09-08 07:52 · Score: 2
  
  But does it have tongue print identification, and is it hindmost approved?
  
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10-finger touch by PopeRatzo · 2015-09-08 08:26 · Score: 1

I can see using one of these on my next bespoke musical instrument controller. Ever since I got my Surface Pro, I've been dreaming about home-brewing something cool for music production with a Raspberry Pi, and this might give me a good opportunity.
But I might wait until they come up with something with higher resolution.

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candy bar $1.25, Amazon store door fee $100, dev b by raymorris · 2015-09-08 09:11 · Score: 1

And a candy bar is a $1.25
Does the door fee Amazon charges to get a portal to their store have any logical relation to the cost of chocolate or development boards?
Re:candy bar $1.25, Amazon store door fee $100, de by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-08 15:12 · Score: 0

Non-sequitur much?
*Anything* you can do with an overpriced, underpowered Raspberry Pi piece of shit, I can do better on a $99 tablet.
So sad this didn't get funded... Raspitab by advocate_one · 2015-09-08 23:36 · Score: 1

https://www.kickstarter.com/pr...

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Re:candy bar $1.25, Amazon store door fee $100, de by Jakune · 2015-09-09 01:04 · Score: 1

Really? How much more for you to add something like some temperature sensors, humidity sensors, servos, etc? I can add most of those at cost of the sensor/servo/device since I can directly interface it to the Pi. Keep in mind, the Pi is not for someone that wants a tablet. It is for someone that wants to tinker, learn about electronics/software, teach about electronics/software, etc. And You can also set up a pi and access it remotely (through something like SSH). I don't have many tablets that could server as a web server, and no computers that can do that at 5volts.
Re:candy bar $1.25, Amazon store door fee $100, de by Anonymous Coward · 2015-09-09 16:10 · Score: 0

If you wanted to tinker, you'd buy individual components and breadboards to build your own stuff, not use some prefab, wannabe hacker shit like Raspberry Pi.
Oh and there are a large number of sensors and servos that you can easily pair up or connect with any tablet or smartphone. Hell, many of them already have temperature and/or humidity sensors BUILT IN. Your ignorance is showing.