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John McAfee On Why He's Running For President
Velcroman1 writes: Our government is in a dysfunctional state. It is also illiterate when it comes to technology. Technology is not a tool that should be used for a government to invade our privacy. Technology should not be the scapegoat when we fail to protect our digital assets and tools of commerce. These are matters of priorities." So says John McAfee, offering up a brief explanation into why he's running for president. As noted earlier on slashdot, McAfee has filed paperwork already (PDF) to found a new party.
Really, who cares? Trump's in it to win it and popcorn futures are tapped out. This idiot's got less chance than Palin at winning the Golden Ticket.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
He will slow down the government...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Being president is sort of like winning the lottery, but in reverse. You accept the blame for everything that happens during the next 4 years, and sometimes you get to take credit for a few things... then you ride the gravy train down to your grave. Anyone who believes that the president alone can fix "Our government is in a dysfunctional state. It is also illiterate when it comes to technology." is already drinking the cool-aid. It takes a president, a congress, and state politicians working together to effect change, and nobody's been able to round up that crowd in a few decades now.
Which has more power: the hammer, or the anvil?
I want to go to war with Belize! Let's nuke 'em!!!
So he's running on a platform of bloatware and slow performance, then?
If it wasn't for that anti virus stuff. We use his stuff at work and it's the most disgusting piece of s*it software I've seen, and I've seen a lot.
L. Ron Hubbard is famous for saying, "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." Are political parties the new religion? With PACs and donors and so on, is McAfee starting his own political party because he truly wants to change the world, or is he doing it just to line his own pockets? There's gold in them thar hills!
Has it been 14 years since he fled Belize? Or did he manage to maintain US residency while he was down there?
My karma is in a nose dive
Now all we need is for Charlie Sheen to run for president to get a trifecta of crazy.
The Moore-Murphy Law: The number of things that will go wrong will double every 2 years.
Again: this is a front page story.
Minor point releases of Amiga OS have an order of magnitude more business being front page articles than this inanity.
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
At least politics is no longer boring...
See the remark that Winston Churchill made about democracy. And study US history, remember that class in high school that you blew off in a puff of pot smoke? People were denouncing each other in both political and nasty personal terms practically from the get-go.
Can one actually loose an American Citizenship?
He couldn't do any worse than the "career politicians" have already http://politics.slashdot.org/c...
APK
P.S.=> We obviously need something/someone different since those who "live the job" aren't doing so well, so a new approach from a NEW KIND of politician seems like a likely experiment worth performing!
He'd have a hell of a job before him, that's certain. What he knows, he knows. He'll handle the parts he speaks of well enough, probably enlightening those around him that don't (& most career politicians don't imo)... on other things? Well, we'll see.
* I do think, however, that Mr. McAfee will run into what most of them do, those that are NOT completely "self-serving climbers": One man can't summon the future & has to have the power to make it happen!
Boy - that means you need MASSIVE wealth + political pull (which only comes from those that TRULY CONTROL SOCIETIES - the mega wealthy, who are really the MAN behind "the man behind the curtain"... without them behind you? Your chances of effecting good, necessary changes aren't that good, since men can (face it) be "bought & 'souled'"...)
... apk
Because I am insane... but then look everybody else that is running for president.
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. There is hope for me.
...er, sorry, no, he didn't. False positive.
Yep. Treason will pretty much do that.
mud slinging = broken political system? I think the fact our politicians are bought and sold=a broken system. That they call each other names is just human nature.
mcafee lost his in the bottom of a bottle of pills
If you're a citizen by birth, you can only lose your citizenship by deliberately renouncing it. What OP is referring to is the third requirement: permanent residency in the United States for the past 14 years.
We put our candidates through mud slinging and name calling very much on purpose, to see how they react.
The Republicans seem to think that winning an election as a Republican, somehow disqualifies you for president.
The three Republican front-running candidates have not won a single election among the three of them.
All of the Republican candidates that actually have experience winning an election have fallen way off in the polls.
He was born in Scotland but was born on an American military base and one of his parents is a naturally born American citizen, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Yes, you can. You can also renounce it. But that's irrelevant to my point. I'm not talking about citizenship, nor questioning his status as a natural born citizen.
But, rather the last part of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: ...neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The "been fourteen Years a Resident" part.
My karma is in a nose dive
Don't you have to be born in the US or to US parents? He was born in Scotland.
"have lived in the United States for at least 14 years to be president. This does not have to be consecutive or even the 14 years leading up to becoming president."
http://americanhistory.about.com/od/uspresidents/f/presidential_requirements.htm
Citizenship != residency.
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"If there is one thing society can learn from the soap opera now engulfing tech zillionaire John McAfee, it is that rectal shelving is the best way to take the psychoactive drug MDPV, marketed and known colloquially as bath salts." ref
I've been looking more into it, and it's not that clear cut. Some think it can be interpreted that way, especially because an earlier wording made it clear that it was meant to be consecutively counted. But, it's not clear.
Also, just maintaining a house in the U.S. could count.
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But is there scientific consensus? Isn't that all that matters?
I saw a photo of him when a gun to his head. Is he going to assassinate himself if elected and the 30 day free trial runs out?
Because he is under investigation for murder and wants to pardon himself when he wins the election.
It's easy and predictable to sit back and call John McAfee crazy. It is also unhelpful.
Some of the nice, responsible people that do this actually believe that the system of government in place in the US is fully functional and healthy. I can't say much to these people except: see you at the finish line.
The remaining people with functioning brains realize that many, many things are going horribly wrong with the US system of government. In fact a majority of Americans believe this today. Trust in government is at an all time low. For these people, even if they disagree on the specifics, clearly things are not going well. Many even doubt for any future at all if we continue down the same course.
And yet many of these people will also stand up and say McAfee is crazy. Well so what? Beyond that, will anything be done in the absence of a crazy person to attempt it? To win one would have to usurp the Political Machine by defeating both the Republicans and Democrats in the election, the whole time thwarting their joint efforts to protect their system. They will literally be walking around with a target on their back. Who but a crazy person would attempt it?
It also shouldn't be forgotten that crazy often comes part and parcel with a whole host of other traits and characteristics that are very desirable. That Mr. McAfee has at least some spark of these is evident in the success that he has met with in the past. To dismiss him as a gibbering loon would not only be a mistake, it would be completely in error.
In 2016 Let's Put Career Politicians on the Unemployment Line
I think John and Hans would be a really good team - both are probably 30 points more intelligent than the previous US presidents, plus they for sure killed less people!
And? Did you have a point there?
In 2016 Let's Put Career Politicians on the Unemployment Line
Yes, you can. You can also renounce it. But that's irrelevant to my point. I'm not talking about citizenship, nor questioning his status as a natural born citizen.
But, rather the last part of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: ...neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The "been fourteen Years a Resident" part.
And they won't let you renounce your US citizenship if they think its because you want to avoid paying taxes on overseas earnings!
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Perhaps a better quote is from Douglas Adams in Restaurant at the End of the Universe:
"The major problem — one of the major problems, for there are several — one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarise: it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarise the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
To summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem."
He has aUS parent, which was deployed to Scotland at the time for the US army.
Does the 14 years a resident require the last 14 years of citizenship to reside in the US, or can it be any 14 years of your life?
that dude is awesome.
But really, what you've got going on these days are a lot of people just fighting to keep the status quo. Most changes that get proposed are historically made by the Democrats. (Look at everything from "The New Deal" to the concept of the social security system, to orders for NASA to explore space and try to get a man put on the moon.) Sometimes (usually in hindsight), these changes are viewed as progress or good moves by our government. But they're almost always expensive undertakings, which get fought by people more worried about a balanced budget.
I've often heard it said that with folks in charge like President Obama (or Bush before him), people would rather see a Congress and/or Senate so divisive, it just log-jams things and prevents much of anything from changing. That's viewed as better than the alternative.
The really sad thing is that Slashdot contains many fans of his, most if not all of whom have read the Hitchhiker series, that will nonetheless still discuss Democrat vs. Republican with a straight face. They still argue about which Career Politician would be best, or suggest that John McAfee is too crazy to be President, blah blah blah.
People: throw your Hitchhiker's Guide away. You don't deserve to own it.
In 2016 Let's Put Career Politicians on the Unemployment Line
Precedent (President Hoover) indicates that this is not the fourteen most recent years.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Daily Kos is not a valid source; it's on par with Bozo the Clown or Big Bird. It's a site set up by hard-left activists to advance hard-left politics and is no better than Politifact, which is run by Democrats.
Try THIS CHART from the St Louis Fed which shows that the NET gain in jobs for all of the Obama years is only about 1 million, and THIS CHART which shows NET gain in jobs for foreign-born workers over the same span of the Obama years as nearly 2 million.
All the political candidates (on BOTH SIDES) and their paid hacks, activist mouthpieces, and corporate and/or union shills play with numbers to mislead people in various ways; some compare data from different time spans, some (usually Obama supporters) cite all the increases but ignore the losses (same trick they use with Obamacare coverage) some cite all the monthly gains (hoping the reader will misunderstand the data and mentally add them all up and see tens of millions on new jobs). Incidentally, the GOP is just as guilty when they are in power of citing a list of monthly gains and knowing they are tricking the average user into misleading himself. The problems with summing the monthlies are: [a] they do not include the monthly losses, [b] they include very temporary and seasonal jobs.
Treason will not strip you of your US Citizenship, not if you are a birth citizen anyway.
You could be executed, but not lose your citizenship. Trop v. Dulles
A naturalized person would be a different story, but those persons can't be elected President anyhow.
But a citizen by birth, can only voluntarily give up their citizenship, and that's only permitted if they are accepted by another country.
And even naturalized citizens generally have to lie in the process, conduct later is another story, see Afroyim v. Rusk.
"Our government is in a dysfunctional state."
So, John's saying he wants to be president so he can put the fun back in dysfunctional?
Is this the same guy? How much of this is true?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-ma... Transcript: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5336...
Why am I reminded of the curse, "May you live in interesting times"?
See subject: Agreed - a purely arbitrary step #1, that imo, doesn't exist/is nigh impossible for the best possible statistical sampleset - everyone.
* I rarely speak in absolutes (or rather I try avoid it, lol)... & there's a shoe for every foot (but it's never the same one).
APK
P.S.=> Perfection is such an arbitrary opionated massively variable value & I think I can safely say there is none really, none created by mankind that I know of @ least - heh, everything we do, eventually, shows flaws, lack of adaptability (over time + clever sob's that learn to 'game the machine/system' etc.), & eventual imperfection + breakdown (or rebuild, ground up)... apk
I think what he is getting at is that he didn't inhale.
With all these extra people running for president, isn't this just going to make the wrong person win? The US doesn't have runoffs or any of the other less flawed voting systems. Instead, the votes get split up among the better candidates, and then the least favorite is the one who wins.
Just think, for every hi-tech job that Obama lost, the money can go create 5 burger flipper Obama jobs at McDonald's !!
McAfee is not what is was 20 years ago. It's like blaming the guy who created Skype in 10 years from now after microsoft break good stuff and add crappy stuff every years...
I was not going to bitch about your previous post where you quote the Clinton adviser. Who was also one of the people on the staff giving Saddam Chemical weapons and technology to use against Iran just a few years before he was suddenly a bad guy. I won't tolerate this kind of lie.
So, what exactly was being lied about? There were WMD found in Iraq, so it couldn't be that, maybe that Saddam wasn't willing to use them?
Your link points to a 1988 attack on the Kurds which the US is at least partially responsible for since we gave Saddam chemical weapons and technology to fight Iraq with in their war.
After the first Gulf war there were no WMDs in Iraq and none were found in or after the 2nd Gulf war. The second war started on massive deception and lies, like "mobile WMD plants" and "SCUDS" capable of delivering the massive stockpiles of nerve agent being made in those mobile plants with no possible defense. The biggest lie was about Yellow Cake and Dirty bombs, completely fabricated by Italian intelligence and passed off as true to the US Public.
I'm not pro Saddam by any stretch of the imagination. I was in the Army for 5 years, honorably discharged literally days before Gulf 1. Our Politicians (not military persons) happen to scare me more than Saddam ever did. Saddam never lied about his reasons for killing people and wanting war. In fact he was open and up front about who he hated and wanted to kill. Our politicians on the other hand have no problem lying through their teeth to get their wars and killings. In fact they will plot with foreign governments for years to get their wars and killings.
Lesson: Don't start spouting history quotes without a good amount of history knowledge and fact checking. Now go kindly pound a bucket of sand up your ass!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Removing all of the appeals to emotion I see a three claims against Saddam. Let me preface this I think he was an evil dictator who should rot in hell with Mao and the rest of that lot. That aside, it's not necessarily our business to fix that problem. Let's see how true your claims really are.
1. We had to maintain a no-fly zone to stop Saddam from using chemical weapons.
False! The US captured and destroyed Iraq's stockpiles during the first Gulf War. Saddam lied about having them to maintain posture in the Middle East after the war, but was not able to produce.
2. Saddam used UN Oil for Food money to enrich himself.
The lavish palaces already existed, but sure, after the first Gulf war Saddam did not change his lifestyle. Like all country leaders he lived much better than the populace. It's really odd for people to point to what a country leader lives like when they dislike them, but ignore their own leader's lavish lifestyle. After the 2008 collapse did our President move out of the White House into a poorer neighborhood? Did he stop spending tax payer money on custom made clothing and shoes? Did he stop eating custom meals which cost more per meal than I could spend in a week? Did he start flying Coach? How about the UK and the Monarchy... do you also bitch about them and demand that they give up their lifestyles? I mean, after WW II they still had all their palaces, money, land, and income from their and other Governments.
In other words, this is true for ALL leaders of countries and you are intentionally omitting information for an appeal to emotion. Get a working mirror, then we can talk.
3. Saddam bribed UN members.
Okay, but that takes two sides of corruption to work. Saddam could not have bribed a real egalitarian. Guilty, but so are other people who you are not inditing.
You back the assertion above that Saddam didn't have weapons and was using a bluff, yet in the same paragraph claim he was threatening to use them. Cognitive dissonance much? I did not like him either, but two wrongs never make a right. Perhaps you have had too much Kool-Aid and it's time to give up drinking?
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
... and McAfee needs to explain himself?
Maybe he will have fun. Maybe he just shits on Microsoft Windows 10 Global Spyware
He may be better than some but do you really want an amoral blatant tax evader to run the place?
By spelling "lose" correctly I suppose you can be ejected for using the Queen's English instead of "yawl".
That is the whole point of rich guys going to Belize and getting citizenship; so they can renounce their US citizenship and not pay US taxes.
That only matters where you're not actually living overseas. You're allowed to change citizenship for tax reasons as long as you already changed your (physical) residency.
If it doesn't distinguish, then it doesn't require it. It doesn't say "continuous recent" or anything, so it simply doesn't mean that. Even if many readers want it to.
If it is not clear, and hasn't been applied to anybody else, the courts aren't going to discriminate against him over it. It would need to be clear in order to have meaning. Not being clear doesn't mean it is more likely it would exclude him, it means it is not enforceable until you find a clear application.
The really sad thing is that Slashdot contains many fans of his, most if not all of whom have read the Hitchhiker series, that will nonetheless still discuss Democrat vs. Republican with a straight face. They still argue about which Career Politician would be best, or suggest that John McAfee is too crazy to be President, blah blah blah.
People: throw your Hitchhiker's Guide away. You don't deserve to own it.
I've pointed out many times in posts on slashdots that all the "republicans are crazy" and "democrats are crazy" posters are simply voting for a lizard in case the wrong lizard gets in. Asking democrat supporters or republican supporters to use their vote *for* a politician and not *against* a party is crazy talk, apparently - it's a wasted vote, after all!
To the rest of us on the outside, those two parties act the same.
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Sorry to tell you all the election is already over. We've all flown on Air Force One. We've all held our finger over the shiny red button. Every day is Judgement Day... it's already happened. Is it such a big deal? "We The People" ARE ALREADY PRESIDENT, no inauguration needed. We the people are always inducing power from the inertia of the system by overcoming and transforming it into motion against resistance which we carry beyond the dead center of opposition where-then its motion reproduces itself and assists our efforts by the accumulated impetus. We have all always been President and it's never been any other way. No human can use any power other than that which is given to use from the universal power-house.
Because he's a fucking maniac.
It seems like you just ASSUMED it was "no job creation" for democrats because you can't conceive of it being any different and, when found out wrong, just go "Those are not the jobs I am looking for".
I don't think McAfee has a snowball's chance in getting elected. Why doesn't he run for congress? That seems like a better way to get into government.
No, I will not work for your startup
as americans dont vote enough fuckwits into power as it is.
Seriously though, a Trump McAfee debate!? That there is what they call Ratings Gold! There is still room for more crazy in this race.
Probably, I don't think that they can eject me for something that I don't have considering that I'm neither a US citizen nor have English as a first spoken language.
dot bomb.
alive to the universe, dead to the world
It's an attempted joke based on the frequent US mistake of "loose" instead of "lose" for the past decade or so.
Other English speakers don't seem to make it anywhere near as frequently, but maybe it's usage thing such as tablet/phone spellcheckers versus desktops/laptops.
I hope they mention his name on mainstream media a few times so my coworkers might finally stop pronouncing it MAC'afee.
Oh, should I have sugar-coated that?
I would think that it would be way more frequently with us that does not have English as a native/first language. Just like how 100% of all C64/Amiga demos back in they day from Europe always spelled "coming" as "comming". Or how "bass" is always both spelled and pronounced "base" in most songs.