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Chinese Tech Companies Hire 'Cheerleaders' To Motivate Programmers

HughPickens.com writes: Lauren O'Neil writes at CBC News that internet companies "across China" are hiring "pretty, talented girls that help create a fun work environment." Dubbed "programming cheerleaders," these young women serve to chit-chat, play Ping-Pong with employees as part of their role, and sometimes smile and clap for male employees who play guitar in the office, as indicated by photos posted to the news service's verified "Trending in China" Facebook page. "According to the HR manager of an Internet company that hired three such cheerleaders, its programmers are mostly male and terrible at socializing," reads China.org.cn's Facebook post. "The presence of these girls have greatly improved their job efficiency and motivation."

However people from all over the world have weighed in to decry the reported role. "This is degrading — both to the 'cheerleaders' and the programmers," wrote one commenter on the original post. "Look at the face of the poor woman programmer in the second picture. Stereotypical 'bro' culture only now with Chinese subtitles." Others suggest that the company pictured should simply hire more female programmers. "What a ridiculous job, why reduce women to only be valued by their looks and to assist males. Let them have a job at the desk using their minds!" wrote one woman.

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  1. I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In all seriousness though, how does such a massive distraction *not* interfere with a job where you have to, you know, focus?

    (...not that I'd complain or anything, but seriously...)

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    1. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it's a cultural thing, but I'm largely talking out of my ass.

      In Asian cultures (from my limited exposure from TV and the like) there seems to be a much higher prevalence of this "curated enthusiasm" as well as the accompanying "hostess" type things where the perky young girls are there to keep the enthusiasm up.

      From the Japanese tendency to have that morning "let's all go" thing, to the hostesses in Karaoke bars it's there but I've never grokked it.

      This would seriously annoy the hell out of me, but my threshold for perky and enthusiastic is pretty much nil.

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    2. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by thedonger · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer Krusty the Clown's Chinese factory motivational sayings via loudspeaker: "Laziness is counter-revolutionary. Questions are decadent! Fast hands mean less whipping."

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    3. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given the innate natural tendency for men to want to try to show off in front of attractive women, this seems like it could actually work. They can harness the instinct to motivate programmers to pound out code. It is devious, but a little dangerous since it can lead to competition instead of cooperation between the programmers. The women have to walk a fine line between appearing interested but not too interested in any one guy to avoid anger and jealousy. They're playing with fire here.

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    4. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Given the innate natural tendency for men to want to try to show off in front of attractive women, this seems like it could actually work.

      Given the historical amounts of epic stupidity committed in the name of men showing off for women ... you really don't want this as part of your corporate culture.

      The women have to walk a fine line between appearing interested but not too interested in any one guy to avoid anger and jealousy.

      No, pretty much the point at which this can happen is why this was a failure from the get to.

      If the guys are showing off, and honestly believe they're going to have some sexual contact as part of this ... you're really only going to get the worst forms of stupidity and harassment.

      This just screams "huge problems waiting to happen".

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    5. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by MassEnergySpaceTime · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It might work if the girls are there to provide "stress relief". It's kind of like some companies where they bring in some massage therapists to give free massages to employees who want one. That's about the only way I can see this "programmer cheerleader" concept working.

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    6. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Informative

      I lived a while in Japan so I get it It's not easy to explain. Japanese, Indonesian, and Philippine culture (I'm sure there are others but I only know this about those three) emphasize... group orientation I guess? The group is more important than its members. To sacrifice for the group is good. Therefore one must be encouraging to others, even at the cost of self-expression. Therefore, in turn, keeping up apparent enthusiasm is vital.

      In Japan the above coupled with the importance of one's company (the loyalty owed) means a non-workplace is needed to hash out personal problems. You can't ever show you're unhappy at work, but you need a place to bring up real problems so you have to go. After all someone else may have a bone to pick with you. So you all go to the karaoke bar, drink a little, and whatever comes out there doesn't have to interfere with work. Steam gets released and you can return to work with a better mutual understanding and hopefully less stress.

      In the Philippines and Indonesia (and Italy?) laughing is often used to show displeasure. The root of humor is a disconnect between what one is supposed to perceive and what one does perceive. They laugh to say "I'm supposed to be feeling good about you but that's different from what I feel". But you always smile and laugh together because it means you're still socially connected. To stop laughing is to declare you're refusing future discourse: diplomacy has failed.

      So in a lot of places a lot of laughing means something completely different from, "ha ha that was funny" and a smile means something different from "I'm happy". To bring in a cheerleader is to support employees by helping them pretend and break up the tension behind the smiles.

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    7. Re:I knew I shoulda learned to speak Mandarin... by cfalcon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Given the historical amounts of epic stupidity committed in the name of men showing off for women

      Did you misspell "society"? Or are you just trashing macho guys because it's safe? Men's motivation to impress women has been responsible for far many great things than derp moments. In fact, you'd be cherry picking to find cases where men trying to impress women has ended badly. You'd be cherry picking so hard you didn't include a single example, that's how hard them cherries are to find.

  2. I actually like the idea... by RingDev · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... just not the execution of it.

    Having a dedicated staff to driving the culture of your company can have a huge impact and pay massive dividends in retention, employee satisfaction, and willingness to go the extra mile.

    One of my previous employers had an employee that started out as a receptionist. She always decorated for the holidays, and she was super social, so she organized extra circular activities. Bowling leagues, wine tastings, etc... She was also tasked with organizing our holiday party, summer picnic, office Olympics, city scour scavenger hunt, and tons of other ideas she helped build in the company.

    Eventually, it became clear that these tasks took too much time for her to also be the receptionist, so the CEO created a new position for her to focus on the corporate culture, events, and social media.

    Best decision he made. She wasn't a cheer leader running around in a short skirt, but her efforts to make the company a fun place to work were way more impactful than any executive direction.

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  3. The Fine Article is incomplete by willworkforbeer · · Score: 3, Funny

    TFA quotes a critic who said: "it's like bringing Hooters to [the] workplace."

    The reporter omitted the rest of the quote, which might have provided some balance by explaining how there's also some kind of downside.

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    1. Re:The Fine Article is incomplete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Don't diss Hooters: A few years back, I had Hooters as a client, and I can assure you that their senior management is a) mostly former Hooters girls, and b) not at all afraid to show a LOT of cleavage (or even crack off-color jokes). It was actually a bit distracting at times, but you get used to it. (And I'm definitely not complaining.)

      I visited the offices of the largest Hooters franchise several times, and the women (almost all former Hooters girls) there outnumbered the men by 2 or 3 to 1. That said, they have fun, but it is an impressively professionally-run organization - of the restaurant chains I worked with only two were more professional, and they were tops in the industry.

  4. Yeah employment! by jader3rd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let them have a job at the desk using their minds!" wrote one woman.

    Perhaps because those people aren't qualified for a desk job using their minds? Not all people are cut out for that kind of work.

    If an employer hires somebody and discovers that they'll contribute more to the company by transitioning to a desk, the employer will make the transfer.

  5. Re:Ping-Pong diplomacy by willworkforbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    the cheerleader playing ping-pong in those high heels is asking for a broken ankle.

    Dude, the idea is that in heels she will miss every shot... thus having to walk slowly over to the ball, then bend over to carefully pick up said ball.

    Clearly you did not think this all the way through. Bro card suspension: One Week.

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  6. The way to motivate programmers by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Treat them like humans and give them interesting work to do.

  7. The same as any sport by cyrille.mdc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can't criticize this. Having cheerleaders at NBA, NFL etc... is very similar. Women cheering on men. Although now it's more just entertaining fans. Although I'm sure some cheerleaders here are giving athletes many free 'breakfasts'.

  8. Re:Ping-Pong diplomacy by eam · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, she's the one who suggested hiring the female cheerleaders. With them around her male coworkers aren't doing as much so she has fewer of their mistakes to fix.

  9. Re:This is so wrong by tomhath · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are judging from a Western perspective. I've heard that in Asian countries a woman working as a courtesan doesn't offend at all. Who are we to say we're right and they're wrong?

  10. Re:Meh - I don't see a problem by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're supposed to be the most "tolerant" society ever in modern times yet you can't turn a corner without offending someone

    Tolerant means we strive to not offend anyone. Offense is intolerance and therefore must be removed. The problem is, once your remove all offenses, you're left with boring flat meaningless monotony; the drudgery of life. The reason is, when you add something more exciting, it will necessarily offend someone somewhere.

    Hell, I bet this post offends someone, who doesn't like when people point out the ultimate silliness of Political Correctness.

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  11. Sheesh.. get a grip by Sassinak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The issue here is not tolerant meaning not trying to offend anyone, because that is an impossible task. (ex: I wear a red tie today, and the women in the elevator says the red tie OFFENDS her.. (its a freaking colour).. but rather trying to be more understanding of the other side that is expressing their individuality (ex: rather than taking offense at again, my colour tie, especially where no offense was given, or even implied, instead choosing to recognize it is in fact, just a TIE, part of any normal apparel by any human, and not look for offense where none in given. If I personally knew the person, or red was culturally insensitive (again, known) then perhaps a slight offense could be claimed.

    The issue with this situation is people are getting offended by a cultural difference that does not subject these people to any degradation or offense. (other than what we, the outsiders) want to attach. I think many people said it here already, in most work places (even those outside of china), the mindset is "I don't care about your life, I wand productivity.. work harder or you are fired".. but what some people fail to recognize is programming is an art, and you can write junk code (functional but non elegant which requires more work down the line (QA, bug fixes, etc..) or elegant code.. and yes.. mood and life does enter into it by being inspired).

    Simply (as some have suggested).. hire more females to program doesn't turn anyone instantly from shy to outgoing, especially if there is no assistance on HOW to interact. (and the same is true for females as well).. I've worked in programming shops in Japan (some where the ratios have been 60/40 (yes, still higher men than women).. but in ALL cases, both groups were afraid to talk with each other for fear of one, making an faux pas, or worse, an embarrassing mistake which might cost them their job.

    The purpose of these "cheerleaders" is to one, break the cycle of monotony.. (yes, it can get dull hacking out code, especially if you are a grunt), two, allow these people (some of who spend 80 - 90% of their lives at work) a chance at a break, and allow them to incorporate some social norms back into their lives without fear of retribution and education. Or to put it another way.. the socially awkward geek(s) gets connected with the socially adept socialite in order to learn how to be cool (ie: almost every teen flick in the past 30 years). Virtually EVERY study indicates a happy employee is a productive employee. (why do you think Google, or Microsoft, etc... all spend so much on employee perks (food, social gatherings, etc..) these are all to bring some normality back into their lives, to forge better team bonding, and for those that are shy a chance to interact in a socially prescribed way that does not require them to use skills they may not have or suck at.

    And for those that are arguing these women are being hired SOLELY on their looks, that is not always the case.. yes, their looks are part of the equation.. but their ability to help these folks out of their shells, and in effect become a "Cheerleader" is also a factor.. (not every "hot girl" off the street is going to qualify because they lack the temperament and skills to help others.

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  12. Re:Distraction? by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    you said

    I can't see how this would be anything but a distraction and counter-productive.

    TFA said

    "The presence of these girls have greatly improved their job efficiency and motivation."

    Personally, I find that when I'm happy I'm far more productive than when I'm unhappy.
    "Wasting" time improving my mood could easily result in more useful work being done overall.

  13. Re:Perhaps "right idea, wrong implementation"? by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In your culture the girls would be just waiting for an opportunity to lodge a sexual harassment suit against the company and walk away with $bigbucks - $lawyerfees

    Not all cultures are like that.

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  14. Re:Why? because..... by fey000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    coding with a boner is always more fun.

    It's a requirement if you want to hit the more complex emacs commands.