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Flash From the Past: Why an Apparent Israeli Nuclear Test In 1979 Matters Today
Lasrick writes: Stanford's Leonard Weiss writes about growing evidence that Israel and South Africa cooperated on nuclear weapons testing in the 1970s, and in fact conducted a test: "On September 22, 1979, a US satellite code-named Vela 6911, which was designed to look for clandestine atmospheric nuclear tests and had been in operation for more than 10 years, recorded a double flash in an area where the South Atlantic meets the Indian Ocean, off the coast of South Africa. The detection immediately triggered a series of steps in which analysts at national labs in the United States informed their superiors that the recorded signal had all the earmarks of a nuclear test... The event has been a subject of controversy ever since, but is now recognized by most analysts as the detection of an Israeli nuclear test with South African logistical cooperation." Weiss goes through the history of the investigation and new evidence that has come to light, and relates it to the rhetoric surrounding Iran's nuclear energy program and the recent agreement Iran struck with the P5+1, as well as to efforts for a nuclear weapons free zone in the Middle East. Terrific cloak-and-dagger read with plenty of technical details.
Nor does Israel murder Iranians in Argentina.
Why?
Because Judaism doesn't have the concept of dar al-Islam and dar al-Harb, nor does Judaism demand death or conversion for all kafirs .
Two apartheid states working hand-in-hand. Quelle surprise.
Imposing sanctions on Israel, on the other hand, would be a political disaster, involving a major loss of support for the administration among the Jewish diaspora in the United States, an important political constituency for Carter and the Democratic Party. For all these reasons, the administration was highly motivated to offer some explanation other than a nuclear test for the Vela event and to hide, suppress, or otherwise soft-pedal information and evidence to the contrary—in other words, to engage in a cover-up.
Of course there's no way around it, but how might the World look if elected officials didn't put personal considerations ahead of national or earthly considerations.
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Interesting timing. I guess this is Israel (or its more ardent supporters) "publicly" declaring that it has nukes to intimidate Iran? Or is this an attempt to undermine the Iran nuclear agreement? Tomorrow's proclamation from the Ayatollah: "The zionists have nukes! We must close the nuclear weapon gap ASAP!"
The article claims Israel broke the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty, but at the time of the Vela Incident Israel had not signed the CTBT nor it had ratified the treaty. In 1996 Israel signed the treaty but has still not ratified it.
Jan
On another hand, a nuclear atmospheric test will necessarily lead to a radioactive signature and radioactive leftovers which weren't found on the presumed site of the presumed nuclear test. So, this is a very important and major piece missing in this puzzle. You cannot hide this, in particular for an atmospheric test.
But given the site from which this article originates, it is no wonder they are concluding actual tests occurred since it is very handy for them to say so.
The summary uses "new evidence that has come to light" as the anchor text for a link to the article, but the most recent date in the article is 2012. Is that supposed to be the "new evidence", or am I missing something?
Even though Israel has refused to admit to it over the years, almost everyone believes and has for a long time believed that they have nukes.
The only interesting timing here might be the amount of increase in interest in Israel's nuclear history given the Iran deal bullshit.
It is time for the testing of nuclear weapons to finally be banned.........We go forward with no illusions. Some will break the rules, but that is we need a structure in place that ensures that when any nation does, they will face consequences.”
It's reasonable. We're trying to stop nuclear proliferation, because the more nukes, the more likely a crazy person will get a chance to use one.
The problem is, and the article points out, there are already consequences that should be in place for nations that test nuclear weapons, but when countries have tested nuclear weapons, they didn't face the consequences. As a result, countries will continue to get nukes. Israel and South Africa first, then Pakistan and soon Iran, followed by Saudi Arabia. Egypt won't get them as long as they get funding from the US, but they're thinking about it.
With the unstable situation in the Near East, how long until nuclear weapons are accidentally (or purposely, by a lunatic) used?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
From TFA: "This cover-up is all the more troubling because it runs contrary to President Obamaâ(TM)s speech in Prague in 2009"
Troubling?
Nearly stopped reading at this point; to vapidly disregard the radically different geopolitical circumstances (both regional and global) between 1979 and 2009 is, frankly, tendentious idiocy.
It might also be worth noting that Israel, who'd been attacked generally by the Arab states around it in 1948, 1967, and 1973. It has not been openly attacked since.
-Styopa
If you got nukes, you should be willing to shoot first.
Thats what Bertrand Russell said, with the proviso "until they get nukes then we should disarm."
The famous peacenik and founder member of CND believed in nuking the soviet union before they had a chance to develop their own nukes.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
What's the point in listing the what SOME Muslims believe as if it's the only factor in deciding who gets a big red button? Does this mean that every non-Islamic state should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon just because their religion doesn't have the same disagreeable traits?
Sounds good. I can't wait for the Baltic states to go nuclear. They aren't Islamic right? I can't imagine there's any other reason to not arm them.
This "article" is a conspiracy nutjob's rant, right down to the "It must be Israel because why not", and "It must have happened because the official scientists showed their data and nothing seemed off, but this other group looked at it and tried to find something and they found a slight error in the readings that they later accepted didn't affect the original results", and "We have witness testimony from someone who claims to have personally been involved in this super-secret clandestine military operation but we did absolutely no fact-checking on his story because why would he lie".
Turns out, there was a mysterious blip in the readings that seemed like it maybe could have been a blast, but the panel that reviewed it found that it wasn't consistent enough to be confirmed, and the counter-panel thought that there was a blast based on possible equipment failures causing a misreading but later relented and accepted that the equipment was working fine. The link to Israel is beyond dubious, as there is absolutely nothing at all linking any part of this to anywhere close to Israel either politically or even geographically beyond huge inferences and massive leaps in logic to connect US officials' disagreement with calling it a nuclear test (in agreement with the scientific findings) with US officials not wanting to cause a political stink with Israel. And the final nail is the unnamed Israeli MIT student (despite naming the guy who told the writer this story, so it's not even a first-hand account) who claims to have been personally involved with the tests, somehow, but with no actual information on what the student was doing there or how he got involved with an operation that was, again, nowhere near either MIT or Israel and would have been a Military-controlled Top Secret-with-capital-letters test.
Oh, there's also one instance of "Thanks, Obama." No really, he actually says "This cover-up is all the more troubling because it runs contrary to President Obama’s speech in Prague in 2009" for an incident that happened in 1979 and would have been covered up by both Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan!
I have lived amongst many Muslims here in africa. Not one has even mentioned converting me.
However on my first trip to Atlanta, i got given a bible on day one
There are very few Arab-Israelis, so it costs ISraeli next to nothing to let them vote.
The real test is when Israel demands conscription from them. Only when Arab Israelis are trusted to guard their fellow Jews can Israel claim to be a democracy.
Iran did break the NTP. So has Britain and the USA. The trident missile deals are by FAR the largest violation of the NPT. You cannot share/sell/train/rent nuclear weapons.
Never mind the whole article IV bit about getting rid of the things.
There are many problems with Israel. There are restrictions on non-Jews in Israel, like on the import of non-kosher meats and the ability to own land. Only Jewish holy sites are protected by the government, not Christian or Muslim sites. Those aren't right. In a secular country, the government wouldn't be protecting holy sites on the basis of religion, though perhaps for historical significance. The laws wouldn't restrict who can own land based on religion or control imports on those grounds. The destruction Israel left in southern Lebanon and the civilian deaths are unacceptable. I understand why many don't like Israel being a Jewish state. And I certainly don't agree with some of the methods used by Israel to ward off threats in neighboring countries.
However, Iran and many of Israel's other neighbors aren't calling for Israel to be a secular state that respects human rights more. They want another Islamic country there. Although Iran certainly has non-Islamic religious minorities, those minorities are often subjected to far worse harassment than the restrictions on non-Jews in Israel. At least in Israel, there is freedom of worship. There certainly isn't freedom of speech in Iran, and definitely far less such freedom than in Israel. The Israeli press is generally able to criticize the government as they see fit.
If we replaced Israel with a country governed as Iran would see fit, I suspect that country would look a lot like Iran. In other words, it would be a lot less free than Israel. Just because Israel deserves a lot of the criticism it gets doesn't equate them with Iran. Generally speaking, countries that are more oppressive are less rational actors, and therefore should be trusted less with lethal force. While I don't trust Israel with deadly weapons, Iran is to be trusted even less.
Druze already do conscription in the Israeli army and serve at the highest levels of the army, police and government. They have done so for decades.
Bedouin also serve quite often although not compulsory afaik. Other israeli arabs can also serve in the army or choose other forms of national service but do so in smaller numbers.
As for your claim that there are very few arab israelis - that is very wrong. About 20% of the population of israel are arab citizens. In the recent elections the arab list became 2nd or 3rd largest in parliament.
Where was the radioactive fallout? If there was an atmospheric test there should have been detectable amounts of radioactive fallout. The article does not mention any. What's up with that?
there are 3 kinds of people:
* those who can count
* those who can't
.. because if it was honest, we saw pictures of them from Dimona from Whistleblower Vanunu Mordechai quite a long time ago, the US would have to stop Providing the military assistance (ie, US taxpayers pay US war profiteers for weapons going to Israel) and the power elite enriching themselves is what everything is about.
Being honest Profitable.
They don't have nukes like Mossad don't assassinate people. I mean sure you can never prove it was Mossad, and in fact that agrees with the neatly written note (in Hebrew) left at the scene of the assassination saying "lol good luck proving this was Mossad".
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The really troubling thing about this is that our (the US) intelligence services didn't know it was going to happen.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
but Israel (and Netayahu) do want to to wipe Iron off the map. Don't you watch the news? Netanyahu build his whole career from claiming Iran is "just months away from having a nuclear weapon" for the last 30 years.
The only test of a supposedly free state that involves conscription is when the state that claims to be free abolishes it entirely. The existence of the practice is an abomination, akin to slavery. Self-determination includes both career path and job choice; which is taken away by the draft. And no state which practices it, in any capacity, can legitimately boast that its citizens are free.
We treat Isreal like one of our states.
Don't worry, the American Taxpayer can afford anything : P
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How do you know they didn't know. As the Weiss article makes clear, much of the information around the Vela event is still classified. Sure, there are descriptions, etc., but I suspect that it didn't come as a total surprise. The specific date may have been unknown, but I'm pretty sure that we were aware of what our friends were up to, in general. It's not like Dimona was a closely held secret in the 70s..
From the font of all accurate information, Wikipedia: "In 1968 Egypt signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty but postponed ratifying it citing evidence that Israel had undertaken a nuclear weapons program. " and "Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons[6][7] and to be the sixth country in the world to have developed them, allegedly having built its first nuclear weapon in December 1966."
"By 1974 U.S. Intelligence believed Israel had stockpiled a small number of fission weapons,[73] and by 1979 were perhaps in a position to test a more advanced small tactical nuclear weapon or thermonuclear weapon trigger design.[74]"
So, of course they knew, and there were probably all sorts of political maneuvering to preserve the nuclear ambiguity. "Hey guys, don't go doing something that might make us have to announce that you did a test". "oh, you jerks, what possessed you do this" Of course, the fact that Menachem Begin (of Irgun fame) was involved probably didn't help. Carter famously didn't like Begin, and I'm sure this didn't help.
I don't think Israel has ever denied having nukes. They avoid the question or pull one of those "I can neither confirm nor deny" answers.
As for Mossad assassinating people, I don't really care if they do or do not. The people I know of who it is claimed that they assassinated are people I'm more comfortable living in a world that doesn't have them in it. If they do assassinate people, I can think of several more they should get on top of. But as I said, I don't really care about it.
We know Israel has nukes because we gave them the nukes. The rest of this is just an exercise in plausible deniability.
Yes, they can serve. My point is when it is compulsory.
The titles of both the submission and TFA promised to explain, why it matters, but contain nothing but evidence of the test taking place.
Ok, suppose Israel did, in fact, test a nuke in 1979 and remained nuclear-armed ever since — for over 35 years. Why does it matter today?
I could offer some suggestions of my own — quickly to be denounced as "troll" and "flamebait" by the dimmer part of the audience — but neither the write-up nor the article deliver any of theirs.
A sloppy piece of propaganda to help Obama close his disastrous deal with an evil regime.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
There are very few Arab-Israelis, so it costs ISraeli next to nothing to let them vote.
Very few as in 20% of the population, you mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The real test is when Israel demands conscription from them. Only when Arab Israelis are trusted to guard their fellow Jews can Israel claim to be a democracy.
This I agree with, and there is already talk of changing this, but not clear if reforms will actually be implemented.
The point is the it IS compulsory for Druze men (and Circassians) to serve in the IDF and has been for decades. In fact 83% serve in the military including in elite special forces units and the air force. Also the commander of the Golani brigade is Druze. Additionally the acting president of Israel was at one point a Druze politician.
We have several laws in the US that prohibit providing foreign aid, etc. to countries with nuclear weapons that have not signed the treaties. Our aid expenses for North Korea are zero. Ditto for Iran.. Pakistan and India have signed, so we can provide aid and engage in commerce.
If we were to officially acknowledge Israel as a nuclear power, we'd have to turn off the substantial foreign aid flow (especially in terms of "industry offsets") and there would also be significant issues with cash transfers from US to Israel. All those wealthy folks in the US sending money to Israel (e.g. Sheldon Adelson) would have problems.
Interestingly, Israel's first nuclear reactor was largely funded with private contributions from just such folks.
If by occupied you mean bought from the people who owned it then sure.
Israel have stated they won't be the first to introduce weapons to the middle east.
As for Mossad assassinating people
Way to miss the point.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
- Anne Coulter
Please consider that just for a minute. Imagine if some commentator said "My only regret with Osama bin Laden is he didn't order the planes to fly into the Wall Street Journal." Would they then be welcome on news programs, asked their opinion, sell hundreds of thousands of books, and basically be a spokesperson for ideologically "pure" members of the Democratic party, instead of being rightfully shunned?
You need to open your eyes a little. One of the reason why blacks don't clutch their pearls quite so much over the relatively microscopic handful of terrorist deaths in the U.S., is because they've suffered terrorism for a century: the KKK burning crosses on their front yards, lynchings, and racist police on a hair-trigger, murdering completely innocent people and planting evidence (and getting off scott free, even when the evidence comes to light). But see, terrorism don't matter when it's just black lives being lost - at least not for the millions that Coulter, Rush, and many other mainstream Republicans. They don't even want to call it terrorism. White terrorists are all just "criminally insane", not like real terrorists - you know "them", "those people".
There goes that business model. Damn.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
And that sort of shit is really what burns my ass (and I`m not Muslim). Yes, some Muslims did stupid, terrible shit. In more recent ``Christian`` history, we have Kim Davis getting a standing ovation to fucking eye of the tiger after being jailed for multiple instances of contempt because she refused to marry gays like her fucking job says to (apparently it`s against her religion, while her 4 marriages and infidelity weren`t somehow)
And we conveniently forget that in Iran, the major reaction to 9-11 was not celebration but actually this, because they recognize that - regardless or religion - all lives are valuable and a terrible thing had happened. Despite that, some people still want to put Iran in the same camp as ISIS (guess who was fighting ISIS before the rest of us got involved), and major outlets like the New York Times had articles that advocate an unprovoked bombing of Iran as a better alternative than a peaceful settlement.
I`ve met some pretty terrible Muslims in my life. For the most part they were holier-than-thou assholes that thought that praying twice a day made them ``good people`` in spite of their conduct. I see the exact same shit from certain members of Christian churches, as well as Jews, etc. There will always be bad people out there, and there are plenty who would use their so-called religion or beliefs to pretend they are good whilst actually doing evil.
Anytime soon?
Nor does Israel murder Iranians in Argentina.
Why?
Israel did a pretty good job of convincing the U.S. to wipe Iraq off the map. The American war hawks were people like Richard Perle, who were also right-wing Zionists. And Netanyahu was pushing us to attack Iraq.
Results: 3,000 Americans dead, 650,000 Iraqis dead, no Israelis dead.
Because Judaism doesn't have the concept of dar al-Islam and dar al-Harb, nor does Judaism demand death or conversion for all kafirs .
Modern liberal Jews, like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, don't have the concept of killing your rival Jews, massacring neighboring Jewish villages, starting wars with more powerful people and committing suicide rather than surrender.
The Israelis do. They celebrate Masada, where the Sicari, or "assassins," did all those things. You've heard of Zealots? The Sicari were the extremist wing of the Zealots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... They were a bunch of Jewish thugs and murderers who killed more Jews than Romans.
The Sicari committed suicide rather than surrender at the Roman siege of Masada.
The Israeli government brings American Jews to Masada on its Birthright tours, and they bring their army trainees to Masada as their "graduation." So what's the message: we want you to commit suicide for Zionism, rather than surrender, just as the Sicari did. The right wing Israelis celebrate Baruch Goldstein, who did just that, killing innocent Muslims at prayer in a suicide attack.
You show me the most anti-semitic, anti-Israel rants by a muslim, and I'll show you an equally anti-muslim racist rant from the Old Testament or from some modern Rabbis who are as bad or worse.
I would start with Yitzhak Shapria, who published The King's Torah, which says "There is a reason to kill babies even if they have not transgressed the seven Noahide Laws because of the future danger they may present, since it is assumed that they will grow up to be evil like their parents."
You show me the most brutal attacks by Muslims on Jews, and I'll show you ten equally brutal attacks by Jews on Muslims. I'll just look them up in the Goldstone Report and the B'Tselem web site.
Muslims didn't assassinate the prime minister of Israel. Jewish nationalists did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
More importantly, when is Israel going to accept refugees? They expropriated and destroy so many Palestinian houses to build condominium. There should be enough space to accommodate many Syrian refugees in the colonies now.
INB4: The goyims knows, shut it down. Massive immigration capable of destroying cultures and nations should only happen in white country. Preserve Israel heritage! Israel is for the Jews!
That's a sensationalist mis-translation that the western TV decided to run with.
As for Israel not killing Muslims abroad, that's ludicrous. And at home there's evidence that the Israeli government has a tendency to "link" every attack of a Jew by a Muslim with organized terrorism. In the incident that lead up to their 2015 bombing campaign, Israel's claims about Hamas involvement were exposed as bunk. The fallacious nature of the claim didn't stop them from surging into the strip (an open-air prison packed with state-less people) which led to an escalation in hostilities.
I missed the point on mossad to. What was it?
The real test is when Israel demands conscription from them. Only when Arab Israelis are trusted to guard their fellow Jews can Israel claim to be a democracy.
This I agree with, and there is already talk of changing this, but not clear if reforms will actually be implemented.
Any MKs who dares to suggest mandatory service of any kind (even merely community service in lieu of actual military service that Jewish citizens are required to do) is immediately labeled as a racist.
You make it sound like Israel is racist for not letting Israeli Arabs serve in the army. The truth of the matter is that this is a point of honor for Arab political leaders to head off any attempt of any mandatory service, of any kind whatsoever.
Shachar
Israel have stated they won't be the first to introduce weapons to the middle east.
I'm assuming you meant nuclear weapons, rather than any weapons. The ship has definitely sailed on that.
Still not true, though. Israel has stated that they won't be the first to use non-conventional weapons.
Shachar
It's about how they make it blindingly obvious who did the assassination yet strangely impossible to prove. You know it's mossad. They know it's mossad. Everyone knows it's mossad, but no one can prove it. Same with nuclear weapons.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Search for "introduce":
http://history.state.gov/histo...
Israel claims it won't be the first to introduce nukes into the area.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim.
Of course all is not accurate, it should be replaced with "vast majority".
The Mohammedics have opposite plans FOR YOUR DAUGTHER, and they OUTBREED you.
America and Britain facilitate this because MONEY is YOUR GOD and you will do ANYTHING FOR MONEY. Excuse the shouting.
Here is the proof America and Britain is probably the most corrupt nation on earth:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article125003296/Prinz-Charles-beim-Schwerttanz-in-Saudi-Arabien.html
So Mr Charly suggest "sword dancing" in Yemen and Syria, so that his fellow British suckers can sell some more Typhoon fighters to the Brutalist Sheiks. Those who crashed into WTC. Those whom you spared and killed an innocent bystander instead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bush,_House_of_Saud
Your daughter's hope now rests on the Chinese, because your leadership are rotten cocksuckers, all of them in the pocket of the Wahabists. Your daughter will either don the Hijab, take asylum in China or simple be beheaded. There is a slight chance she will be sold off as a slave by the Wahabists who will by then be a dominating force in America, by simple immigration.
All brought to you by MAMMON(TM).
Important because Israel has been secretly stockpiling nuclear weapons for decades; continually lies about it; refuses to sign the NPT and then has the audacity to complain about Iran attempting to build a nuclear reactor.
Iran, by contrast, is not a warmongering country like Israel. They have never started a war in modern history, and even have a "no first strike" policy.
Further, Israel commits genocide against the Palestinian people in the world's largest open-air prison and then attempts to demand sympathy from the rest of the world.
Israel also attacked the United States in 1967 (USS Liberty) and tried to blame it on Egypt in an attempt to have America fight it's war for them. They later "apologized" for the incident, saying they believed it was an Egyptian ship (although it was clearly marked USS Liberty with an American flag flying overhead). 34 American servicemen were murdered by the Zionists.
Israel was also caught spying in the USA - before, during and after the 9/11 attacks. Over 200 Israeli spies were arrested and deported; several of them Mossad agents - and many were active military service personnel with backgrounds in intelligence and/or explosives expertise.
Israel claims to be an ally, yet the deception never ends.
And yes, I will be likely be called an "anti-semite" and a "holocaust denier" for stating the obvious out loud - but I really don't care.
Someone has to.
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
.. because if it was honest, we saw pictures of them from Dimona from Whistleblower Vanunu Mordechai quite a long time ago, the US would have to stop Providing the military assistance (ie, US taxpayers pay US war profiteers for weapons going to Israel) and the power elite enriching themselves is what everything is about.
Being honest Profitable.
Logically wouldn't it make sense to provide enough support so that Israel would have strong enough conventional defense not to have to use the nuclear option?
The thing is they kill innocent people by misidentifying their targets, and when they kill they frequently kill innocent bystanders as well. They, to me at least, are the sort of people I'd be more comfortable living in a world without.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Casteism
umm... no... The holes in the ozone layer did not just fix itself ya moron. It was international collaboration to reduce the usage (and in some some countries such as Canada an outright ban) of Ozone depleting chemicals in manufactured products that used them (i.e. fridges, air conditioners, aerosol containers, etcetera). Your arrogancy confirms your youthful stupidity.
NASA scientists say large ozone holes will be a thing of the past by 2040. #NASAViz
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/goto?11844
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol
The language parasites are coming, run!
It reminds a lot of Jews, including me, of the Warsaw Ghetto.
This is a perfect example of illogical Jewish self-loathing.
Imposing the Gaza blockade was a response to repeated lethal attacks from Gaza into Israel.
But it's impossible to construe the Warsaw Ghetto as a response to any sort of misbehavior on the part of Jews. Any suggestion to the contrary is highly offensive.
Why must we constantly be subjected to ethically bankrupt comparisons like this?
It reminds a lot of Jews, including me, of the Warsaw Ghetto.
Thanks for the perfect example of illogical Jewish self-loathing.
The Gaza blockade was imposed in response to repeated lethal attacks out of Gaza into Israel.
In a contrast that could not be any starker, the Warsaw Ghetto was not a response to any form of misbehavior on the part of Jews. To suggest that the Nazis might have had legitimate motives for Warsaw, by comparing it to the Gaza blockade, is highly offensive. The part of your brain that draws such comparisons is beyond faulty.
Why must we be constantly subjected to ethically bankrupt comparisons like this?
Israel has more than 300 nuclear warheads. Including neutron bombs and hydrogen bombs.
They have put some of those to u-boats they got from germany (6 dolphin class subs). Subs, they did not pay a penny for, and used the germans guilt and germans tax-payers money to build the damn things.