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UK Man Gets Britain's First-Ever Conviction For Illegal Drone Use

jfruh writes: Nigel Wilson of Nottingham was quite a drone enthusiast: he flew a drone over a Champions League soccer match low enough to startle police horses, and at other times flew drones over iPro Stadium in Derby, the Emirates Stadium in north London, and near the Houses of Parliament, Buckingham Palace, the HMS Belfast and the Shard tower in London. He's been convicted under the Air Navigation Order 2009 and fined £1,800.

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  1. Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    I really wonder how it can be News that a criminal gets fined.

    It is not only common sense that he may not fly drowns over other peoples private property, but it is explicitely forbidden!

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    1. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Drones stories are second only to 3D printing stories on slashdot's "must feature no matter how dull" topic list. Now if you have a story about a 3D printed drone, well, just give it the whole front page.

    2. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Barny · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT?

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    3. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by ze_jua · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT, and has also iPhone connectivity with an app ?

    4. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Barny · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks cars!

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    5. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      You evidently missed the "first-ever" in the title.

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    6. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Sarten-X · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars!

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    7. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In space, because we only have technology because of space?

    8. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and relies on a webscale database!

    9. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by N1AK · · Score: 1

      I really wonder how it can be News that a criminal gets fined.

      Given all the stories about drone misuse (real or theoretical) it certainly hits my news threshold that someone has actually been prosecuted and given a decent sized fine.

    10. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by fisted · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and relies on a webscale database, built by the Maker Community!

    11. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and relies on a webscale database!

      -by Bennett Haselton

    12. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Nchantim · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars!

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and then holds the car hostage until a ransom is paid in bitcoins and, using Stringray, sends the car's phone metadata to the NSA?

    13. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really wonder how it can be News that a criminal gets fined. It is not only common sense that he may not fly drowns over other peoples private property, but it is explicitely forbidden!

      Apparently, you're having trouble understanding the difference between civil and criminal law, and private and public property.

      Perhaps not surprising, given that you're from a country where a private insult can be a criminal offense.

    14. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks cars!

      ...and mines Bitcoin, FTW.

    15. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by TWX · · Score: 1

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks cars!

      Well, the IoT thing and the iPhone thing are redundant, but if the only way to hack a car was to keep up with it on the road and to establish a direct point to point connection to it, this would probably be the solution to make that happen.

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    16. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      We just keep droning on and on about it.

    17. Re: Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks cars and causes climate change.

    18. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by tigersha · · Score: 1

      A nuclear armed 3D printed drone with Anthrax spore coated plutonium blades that connects to the IoT, has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and then holds the car hostage until a ransom is paid in bitcoins and, using Stringray, sends the car's phone metadata to the NSA

      In that case ./ will go gaga about the involvement of the NSA and forget the rest.

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    19. Re:Well, news? Yes, but for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beating a dead horse is bad, but this thread was so fun... too fun to be on Slashdot2015.

      A 3D printed drone that connects to the IoT and has iPhone connectivity with an app that hacks Tesla cars and then holds the car hostage until a ransom is paid in bitcoins and, using Stringray, sends the car's phone metadata to the NSA. And then Apple removed the app from the itune app store after a fallacious DMCA takedown notice received from Makerbot Industries.

  2. This cannot happen in Scotland! by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    Drones are used since probably more than 2,000 years without having to apply for a permit.

    1. Re:This cannot happen in Scotland! by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      That's because Scottish drones do sound better and don't spy over people!

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    2. Re:This cannot happen in Scotland! by alex67500 · · Score: 1

      If only you could use those in the rugby world cup stadiums... ;-)

    3. Re:This cannot happen in Scotland! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only you did have to apply for a permit for bagpipes... I would get myself on the permissioning board and refuse all applications :)

    4. Re:This cannot happen in Scotland! by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

      A true gentleman knows how to play the bagpipes, but doesn't.

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    5. Re:This cannot happen in Scotland! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A true gentleman knows how to play the bagpipes, but doesn't.

      I don't always play the bagpipes, but when I do, I play Great Highland.

  3. Drone enthusiast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would think a real drone enthusiast would know enough to not do such stupid things with them. This is why we can't have nice drones.

    1. Re:Drone enthusiast? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In some fields "enthusiast" implies a degree of stupidity. Car enthusiasts often drive recklessly, hi-fi enthusiasts waste huge sums of money on snake oil. It looks like drone enthusiasts may be joining that list.

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  4. As a UAV flyer myself... by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... I say "good". The current laws are working: you do something stupid with your machine, you get hit with a fine. Leaving a trail of all your illegal stunts on YouTube is probably not the smartest thing to do, either.

    Just because you can fly one of these things doesn't mean it won't suddenly drop out of the sky. Over the weekend, I was practicing nose-in POI orbits in a big, empty field. The earlier flights were non-eventful; this one seemed no different until the battery cover popped off and a propeller hit it, with the machine dropping 20' into the ground. I believe I hadn't seated the battery connector correctly and it shifted during the flight, causing the cable to put pressure on the cover and it blew out. Fortunately, the only damage was a snapped blade, cracked landing gear and the camera was knocked off it's gimbal mounts. If I was being an idiot and flew over the crowds at Wimbledon (like this guy), it may not have had such a happy ending.

    The laws are working. Heavily fine a few more idiots and let the rest of us fly responsibly.

    1. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by brambus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      100x this. As a pilot myself, we're acutely aware of things like temporary flight restrictions over crowded spaces (especially games) and restricted areas over places with special security requirements. Now I'm not a fan of overburdening regulation, but I fully support public education of all potential drone pilots that as soon as they put their craft over anybody's head, it's no longer just a toy. Maybe even require a license to fly a drone over/near populated areas.

    2. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It reads like a sensible ruling. A stiff fine but not excessively so, and no panic "terrorist" or similarly silly charges for flying near Buckingham Palace.

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    3. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Fortunately, the only damage was a snapped blade, cracked landing gear and the camera was knocked off it's gimbal mounts."

      If you could knock that extra apostrophe off that possessive pronoun, that would be good.

    4. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by macaddict · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We wouldn't need overburdening regulation if these dumbasses would act like adults with more than two brain cells to rub together. This is why we can't have nice things.

      I'm also a (newbie) pilot. I wouldn't be opposed to having to pass a safety course and getting a license (similar to a driver's license) if it keeps (most) idiots from ruining the hobby for the rest of us. Or at least allows the same punishments that car drivers get for reckless driving, because the drone pilot can no longer use "I didn't know the rules" as an excuse.

    5. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes people think it's cool to overfly crowds on private property with no authorization, or mess around major airports, power plants, etc.? How do you somehow not know this is a problem?

      I am constantly amazed by these reports; it seems like there are a large number to truly oblivious people. Every damn day there is another story of some celebrity being harassed or some security sensitive area being breached by a knucklehead school teacher with a quadcopter. It really dispels any doubt about the need to write "DO NOT EAT" on silica packets.

      Yes, fine them, and fine them hard. Taking away their toys would be good too. When you're dealing with people this ignorant you need to kick them hard to get their attention. It's frustrating that it has taken this long to nail one of these boneheads.

    6. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by GregoryOakley-steven · · Score: 1

      Another issue is the Ipro stadium (used to be called Pride Park) in derby is on a complex of mostly privately owned businesses with a fair bit of foot traffic (thing pizza hut/costo etc.), so even it flying over roads only a single malfunction could cause injury.

    7. Re:As a UAV flyer myself... by brambus · · Score: 1

      We wouldn't need overburdening regulation if these dumbasses would act like adults with more than two brain cells to rub together. This is why we can't have nice things.

      Alas, it's the 1% of dumbasses that might eventually make regulation a necessity. If there's one constant in the world, it's that there will always be some idiots.

  5. Nigel the asshole by AndyKron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nigel Wilson of Nottingham sounds like quite the asshole.

  6. Grumpy Cat says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GOOD

  7. Shite by edittard · · Score: 0

    the HMS Belfast? Don't think so. Expand the "HMS" and see if it makes sense.

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    1. Re:Shite by C0R1D4N · · Score: 4, Informative

      It does make sense. The ship is a museum parked in the river. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why wouldn't Her Majesty's Ship Belfast make any sense? It's a ship that belongs to Her Majesty via the Royal Navy as all Navy ships do. It's named after the city of Belfast in Northern Ireland, part of the United Kingdom of which she is Queen.

      So what exactly is the problem?

    3. Re: Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Note the emphasis on the word "the".

    4. Re:Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the parent means "The HMS Belfast" reads as "The Her Majesty's Ship Belfast, which sounds totally wrong.

    5. Re:Shite by khallow · · Score: 1

      Eh, I guess my ears aren't refined enough. Doesn't roll off the tongue, but sounds ok to me.

    6. Re:Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does C0R1D4N. HMS Belfast is a correct designation for a ship on active duty. The HMS Belfast is a correct designation for a tourist attraction which was once a ship on active duty.

    7. Re:Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My God, what is wrong with you people? You've had it explained to you twice now but you keep thinking the problem is with the ship's designation, not the word THE which was highlighted BOTH TIMES. You are why we can't have nice things.

      It's HMS Belfast not "The" HMS Belfast.

    8. Re:Shite by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      It's HMS Belfast not "The" HMS Belfast.

      To me, it is still correct. The word "the" is to emphasize HMS. HMS is considered as one word. Even though "H" stands for 'Her', it doesn't actually work as possessive. Thus, to me it is still fine.

    9. Re: Shite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'the' should not be used in this context. 'the' should only be used as in "the Belfast", not "the HMS Belfast".

  8. I still prefer guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why wait for the police to arrive while a crime is in progress, in this case a drone flying by.

    There's another good application of guns right there!

    1. Re:I still prefer guns by tigersha · · Score: 1

      So you think that firing guns in a crowded football stadium at a very hard to hit flying object is going to IMPROVE public safety?

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  9. the real story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real story for me as a fellow risk taking asshoke is the fines are pretty low compared to the reward. I fly around woodland as it's good fun but now I'm actually considering harrassing big events. I hate televised sports too so I have an idea where to start.

  10. Seems like a reasonable rule set and outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plus a bit of hype.

    "Flying drones over congested areas or buildings can pose great risks to public safety and security..."

    I can see risks, yes.
    Great risks seem unlikely unless the drone was carrying something really bad.
    Which is probably why he got off with a small fine and a 2 year timeout.

    That rule set is 569 pages. It appears to be the whole set of aviation rules.
    There is an unmanned section in part 22 sections 166 and 167 (page 178).
    There is a line of sight rule at 22-166-3.

    1. Re:Seems like a reasonable rule set and outcome by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Great risks seem unlikely unless the drone was carrying something really bad.

      What it was carrying was "mass" with a failure mode of "plummet."

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    2. Re:Seems like a reasonable rule set and outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What it was carrying was "mass" with a failure mode of "plummet."

      I date a girl with the same risk.

    3. Re:Seems like a reasonable rule set and outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I date a girl with the same risk.

      Pics or it didn't happen.

    4. Re:Seems like a reasonable rule set and outcome by tigersha · · Score: 1

      If you are still dating her she must have some other attributes. Does she fly with a remote control too?

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  11. Re:Elephant in the Room by dave420 · · Score: 1

    We're discussing Britain, not Great Britain. The former is a political entity and the latter an island. Feel free to post a story about Cameron's porcine fancies if you wish, but get the terminology right ;)

  12. Good by kbg · · Score: 1

    As I drone enthusiast myself I say it is a good thing this asshole was fined. You never ever fly over any congested areas because it doesn't matter if you are a good pilot or not, you can always have rotor malfunction or interferance leading to loss of control and over congested areas that is very likely to lead to injuries to bystanders.

  13. Re:Elephant in the Room by Malc · · Score: 2

    I think it's acceptable usage to use 'Great Britain' in the same way as 'Britain', considering that 'Team GB' represented the whole of the UK in the Olympics.

  14. Pointing at the wrong topic here by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    He flew a drone over a Champions League soccer match low enough to startle police horses, and at other times flew drones over iPro Stadium in Derby...

    Wait, there's a place called iPro Stadium? Who was the fool to think of this name and why hasn't Apple sued them yet?

    1. Re:Pointing at the wrong topic here by GregoryOakley-steven · · Score: 1

      The stadium is the home of Derby County football club, it used to be called Pride Park(like the rest of the complex) but got renamed due to a branding deal with a drinks company with a name that shouldn't take much guessing.

  15. Re:Elephant in the Room by Triklyn · · Score: 1

    meh, hazing, and at worst a dead pig head.

    i was expecting more "farmyard bride", and less "dumb 20 year old puts his twig and berries on random objects to one up his idiot friends"

  16. Animal Interaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just for the record, I've found that horses and cattle are startled by relatively quiet quadcopters, such as DJI Phantom, from as far away as 200 feet overhead. These animals are skittish as hell to anything out of the norm.

    Meanwhile hawks and vultures seem drawn to quadcopters and will come from quite some distance to investigate the quadcopter. I have a suspicion that they might be thinking that the copter is on a thermal that they can also use.

    Cranes are completely chill, barely flinching with a quadcopter only 10 feet overhead and bathed in downdraft.

    Dogs vary. Some are uninterested, some are fearful and many large dogs try very hard to catch a quadcopter.

    Cats, well... those assholes suck.

    1. Re:Animal Interaction by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Cats, well... those assholes suck.

      By which you mean that they're rather good at downing your toys?

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  17. blanket restrictions by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

    In principle, it shouldn't be all that hard to design drones that don't pose a risk in crowded areas, that harmlessly spin to the ground if anything goes wrong. Blanket restrictions like this strongly discourage such developments.

    A second issue with these restrictions is that they often mix up criminal and civil matters and are at risk of getting abused by police and politicians for purposes other than public safety and protecting private property rights.

  18. How he should have spent the £1,800 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    £1,800 would have been enough to pay the wages of Arsenal first team for 9.5 seconds. Enough to ask the players if Wenger is losing the plot ;)

  19. "Drone failure will never happen to me" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    People may have exaggerated confidence in their pilot ability or luck. Thats when they push the envelop. Most arent intentionally trying to hurt property or people. We wont see change until their are some significant, publicized punishments.

  20. Meanwhile in the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His some would have been shot down by the police AA gun, and the fine would have been 5-10 in the clink

  21. Re:Elephant in the Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    actually and literally fucked a pig

    So did Clinton, left his jizz on her dress to prove it. What's the big deal?

  22. If it is not a Scottish drone... by zawarski · · Score: 1

    ...it's crap!

  23. Re:Elephant in the Room by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    So did Clinton, left his jizz on her dress to prove it. What's the big deal?

    Monica Lewinsky is alive. David Cameron fucked a dead pig.

    No, you can't spin this. The PM of England fucked a dead pig. He fucked. a dead. pig. As in, "had carnal relations with". Dead pig...

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  24. Worth it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worth it!

  25. Re:Elephant in the Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then it's hardly going to suffer. What's the problem?

  26. Re:Elephant in the Room by tigersha · · Score: 1

    Nor is it going to testify before the house of Lords.

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  27. Re:Elephant in the Room by tehcyder · · Score: 1
    I believe he merely stuck his dick in the mouth of a dead pig as part of some posho initiation ceremony.

    Fucking amateur.

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  28. Re:Elephant in the Room by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    As with Clinton, it was only oral, so it doesn't count.

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