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George W Bush Made Retroactive NSA 'Fix' After Hospital Room Showdown

circletimessquare writes: New details have emerged about the 2004 conflict between George W. Bush and his Attorney General, John Ashcroft, who was hospitalized when he forcefully disagreed with the president's authorization of the NSA's sweeping new collection powers after 9/11. The New York Times has discovered that the conflict was about a retroactive alteration of the President's wording on the legal theory by which the NSA is allowed to siphon up metadata on all Americans, not just certain targets or classes of targets, such as suspected terrorists. 'Mr. Bush, for the first time, explicitly said that his authorizations were "displacing" specific federal statutes, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and criminal wiretapping laws... the president had "made an interpretation of law concerning his authorities" and that the Justice Department could not act in contradiction of Mr. Bush's determinations.' The president faced a severe backlash from the Justice Department, including a threat of mass resignation.

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  1. Re:And that means... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The DOJ promises to thoroughly investigate its boss and find no wrongdoing."

  2. Re:Hypocrisy by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When someone we don't like does an evil, it's because they are evil. When someone we do like does an evil, it's okay, because they have goodness in their hearts.

  3. Re:Hypocrisy by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One evil doesn't excuse another. But overlooking an evil because it is your kind of evil is the worst kind of evil.

    Further, Obama has had six years to fix this "evil" and hasn't. And yet, nobody is blaming him for not doing anything about it ... because he is "your kind of evil" so you overlook it.

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  4. Re:Hypocrisy by Nick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Congratulations! It only took a few minutes before someone already brought the ACA into this.

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    Fuck Ajit Pai
  5. Re:A discussion of constitutional limits of power? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no 10th Amendment. "Commerce" clause overrules everything.

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  6. Re:A discussion of constitutional limits of power? by tsotha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I personally kind of like the idea that law would be uniform from state to state.

    Not me. Regions have different cultures, different geography, different levels of wealth. That means they like to do things differently. A national approach means one-size-fits-all, which is never going to be as efficient.

    The 55 mph federal speed limit is a perfect example. It may seem reasonable to people who live in hilly places that get bad weather, but if you live in Nevada, say, or Nebraska it's just a dumb idea.