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America Runs Out of IPv4 Internet Addresses

FireFury03 writes: The BBC is reporting that the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) ran out of spare IP addresses yesterday. "Companies in North America should now accelerate their move to the latest version of the net's addressing system. Now Africa is the only region with any significant blocks of the older version 4 internet addresses available." A British networking company that supplies schools has done an analysis on how concerned IT managers should be. This comes almost exactly 3 years after Europe ran out.

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  1. America! F-Yeah! by sinij · · Score: 5, Funny

    Out of IP addresses? Sounds like a good time to invade somewhere where they mine them!

    1. Re:America! F-Yeah! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Funny

      They already found a new source of IP addresses which could support everyone with enough IP addresses to the end of time

      Another liberal scare tactic.

      We have plenty of IP addresses to go around, and any right thinking American knows that there is a controversy, and that not all scientists believe in this hogwash.

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    2. Re:America! F-Yeah! by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Informative

      Out of IP addresses? Sounds like a good time to invade somewhere where they mine them!

      If you want to invade somewhere with a crap ton of IPv4 address how about the DOD? They have an entire class A. They have more address than a number of continents.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Or how about big businesses?

      IBM 9.0.0.0/8
      General electric 3.0.0.08
      HP 15.0.0.0/8 AND 16.0.0.0/8
      Apple 17.0.0.0/8
      Ford 19.0.0.0/8
      Haliburton 34.0.0.0/8
      Hell the the US postal system owns 56.0.0.08

      There are far more than enough IPv4 address to last us several more years they are just sitting in the hands of people that don't use them appropriately.
      I am not saying that we should stick with IPv4, we need IPv6 in the long run it just should not be as urgent as it is becoming.
      What IANA should do is revoke their ownership of those addresses and give them 6 months or so to restructure their internal networks before assigning there addresses to the rest of the planet.

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    3. Re:America! F-Yeah! by grahamsz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Like who? MIT Is the only school i see that still has a class A

      The most obvious people who should be giving them up are

      a) HP - who have TWO class As and I believe around 7 employees.
      b) Apple - have a class A and as far as I know don't run any significant external networking.
      c) IBM - kinda like apple. they did have a networking business at one point but I believe that's sold to AT&T now
      d) Halibutron - just why?
      e) Prudential Insurance - wtf? in what possible world do they need 16 million external addresses?

  2. Re:Move to the latest version? by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are typing or using IP addresses for ANYTHING other than you primary DNS servers, you're doing something wrong.

    Seriously - set statics on your DNS servers (which can even be IPv4!), plug that into your DHCP etc. servers. Done.

    This is the problem with IPv6 - those people whining about it aren't in charge of networks where it could be an issue anyway.

    P.S. likely your mobile phone and maybe even your cable setup has been using IPv6 addresses for a few years now. They are specified and necessary in related standards. Did you notice? No. Because nobody types in IP addresses any more, not even on their home networks, work networks, thousands of servers, etc.

    To be honest, MAC addresses are much more problematic to me, but I barely ever have to type those either.

  3. My IP Address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just checked my IP address and it's 192.168.1.102. Whew, I'm glad I got one before they ran out. No one else can have my IP address!

  4. Three years after Europe ran out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, that's just an artifact of the different policies for assigning the last addresses. RIPE (the European registry) throttled assignments by making the requirements much more strict. That change of policy was considered the point when RIPE ran out of IPv4 addresses, because the remaining addresses are not given out just for asking. Unlike the other registries, ARIN did not institute a policy to extend the availability of IPv4 addresses for transitioning purposes, so they burned through the last 16 million addresses like no tomorrow and are now truly out of IPv4 addresses to assign. They are in fact the first registry without IPv4 addresses in stock. RIPE still has almost a full /8, APNIC has two thirds of an /8, LACNIC has one seventh of an /8, and AFRINIC still has 2.3 /8 blocks.

  5. Re:TLS SNI by ledow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Agreed. If you aren't capable of using SNI, then chances are your server software, client, etc. are not fit to be on the Internet anyway.

    IE6, Firefox *1* (!), Chrome 4. If you're still using those, get something else immediately because your security of the certificate is then the LEAST of your worries.

    I'm waiting for the "Let's Encrypt" to start issuing certificates. When that happens, interesting things will happen in the SSL/TLS certificate market.

  6. Re:Move to the latest version? by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with switching is IMHO three fold, 1.- It is gonna cost probably a couple hundred million in routers and modems that cannot support IPV6, in fact if you look at places like Amazon and Newegg there are more routers being sold that doesn't support IPV6 even today than not, 2.- Years of treating IT workers as disposable means we simply do not have enough workers that can support all the headaches that are gonna happen with the switch, I know in my area most of the greybeards simply went into other fields because they were tired of being fucked by the MBAs, and my own personal beef 3.- Assigning everyone a unique IP means it will be trivial to track everyone, its gonna be meat on the table for your *.A.As and copyright trolls.

    So you can see why switching hasn't bee a priority for most, its gonna cost a mint, shit is gonna break everywhere, and I wouldn't be surprised if it will end up with a shitload of requests from the *.A.As spamming the ISPs as they will be able to argue that "IP address does not equal individual" no longer applies.

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  7. Re:Boy cries wolf by Alioth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The real WTF is that Slashdot has been running IPv6 articles for years...and *still* doesn't support IPv6.

    Facebook on the other hand - not a tech site, but a site for angsty teenagers, baby pics, cat memes and partisan squabbling - has supported IPv6 fully for years.

    It's embarrassing that a tech site can't do what a non-tech site has been doing for years.

  8. Re:nature's 4-fold harmonic IP addresses by prefec2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I personally require at least one more month to finish my thesis. Therefore, I am totally opposed to an end of world right now. I mean, they waited 6000 years. Plus/minus one month shouldn't be that big of a problem. Or better six month so I can have some vacation and get my PhD from university. However, when I am on /. I might need one more month. Oh flip lets make it a year. How about world end in 2016? God? Jesus? Anybody? Is that too much to ask?

  9. Comments Summarised by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Funny

    - What are we running out again? I thought we ran out last month! They are crying wolf!
    - IP addresses are assigned by region we only just ran out.

    - NAT makes this a non issue. Just use NAT!
    - NAT is a broken concept that breaks end-to-end connectivity!

    - I won't move to IPv6 they are too hard to type.
    - Why are you typing IPv6?

    - I can't NAT on IPv6 so it breaks my firewall and its insecure.
    - NAT is not a firewall, you can firewall IPv6

    - Why don't we just steal some of HP's IP addresses? They have some spare.
    - Break the internet by splitting up routing tables even further.

    - But NAT has protected us for many years everything works on NAT.
    - Everything now needs to connect to a command server. No end-to-end connectivity and nasty workarounds in routers to make applications work.

    - But DHCP doesn't work for IPv6!
    - DHCP isn't needed, and if it is needed yes it does.

    - But we can NAT the NATTING NAT NAT!
    - Go fuck your NAT.

  10. A solution by azcoyote · · Score: 4, Funny

    If we just shut down all the porn sites on the Internet, I'm sure we'd get back a good 98% of those IP addresses...

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  11. Re:Move to the latest version? by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How can you be so ignorant of how IPv6 works and still have the hubris to propose a modification that supposedly fixes it?

    Oh silly me, this is Slashdot.