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Reports: Volkswagen Was Warned of Emissions Cheating Years Ago

An anonymous reader writes: More fuel was thrown on the Volkswagen fire today after two German newspapers reported that Volkswagen's own staff and one of its suppliers warned years ago about software designed to thwart emissions test. Volkswagen declined to comment on the details of either newspaper report. "There are serious investigations underway and the focus is now also on technical solutions" for customers and dealers, a Volkswagen spokesman said. "As soon as we have reliable facts we will be able to give answers."

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  1. Link to Reuters News Story... by silentbozo · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a Reuters news story - why is the submission linking to Newsweek, which locks the article behind their ad wall?

    Here's a Reuters link:

    http://www.reuters.com/article...

  2. Re:Who Pays by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    No it doesn't. LLC or Limited means that shareholders are only on the hook for the value of their shares if something goes wrong. If you are a shareholder in a non Limited company you can be on the hook for your entire asset pool if something happens. Both forms of corporations exist, however non limiteds are extremely rare.

  3. Re:As soon as we have reliable facts by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any fact that can cause a loss in profits for a corporation is an unreliable fact.

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  4. Re:The Facts (if anybody is interested) by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    -> it looks like this motors are only a bit off in the laboratory test (they are almost EURO 6 - but not without the cheat)

    "Only a little bit off"? They emit 10-40 times as much NOx as they're supposed to (EPA source[PDF warning]). That's not "a little bit", that's "actually a fuckload".

    -> EURO 6 from VW is fine (see http://www.theicct.org/nox-con...) as other German manufacturers, but some others have problems.

    The linked paper only shows test results from a single VW vehicle. Not enough to say anything about VW's general compliance or lack thereof.

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  5. Re:Yes. So? by mark-t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The warning makes a difference in that it provides a paper trail of evidence that points at some of the specific people who would have known about the issue. That means that it is also possible to know exactly who some of the people that should be facing criminal liability for this issue are.

  6. Re:Yes. So? by jrumney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would a "warning" make any difference?

    It's a "cover my ass" letter. Bosch was complicit in coming up with this scam, but wanted to make sure that the final decision to go ahead was clearly VW's. There is no possibility with this letter in existence that VW can deny knowledge and point the finger at their suppliers.

  7. Re:hahaha "years ago" by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When your vehicle is cold the combustion is less complete and there is left over fuel. On top of this your catalytic converter is cold. So air is injected into the exhaust for two reasons. The first is to provide oxygen for unburnt fuel to be burnt and the second was to rapidly increase the temperature of the catalytic converter to it starts working.

    Then once you car is up to temp the air is pumped into the exhaust system just infront of the cat. This allows the cat to be much more efficient and more complete in its transformation.

    They were called smog pumps because they reduced smog. But it wasn't through bending the rules it was actually because it did something to reduce emissions.