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Scientists Have Spotted the Signs of Flowing Water On Mars

New submitter universe520 writes: Using neat imaging technology that allows them to determine the chemical compound of a substance by looking at the light reflected from it, scientists have spotted the traces of flowing water on Mars. By looking at the dark streaks on some photos of Mars, Lujendra Ojha from Georgia Tech has found compounds that are made in liquid water—meaning that water may be trickling down those streaks when the climate is just right. From the linked Economist piece: Details remain to be worked out, including where the water in question originates. Possibly, it derives from subsurface ice. Or it might condense out of Mars’s thin, dry atmosphere. Wherever it does come from, though, the amounts in question are modest in the extreme. But even modest amounts of water are intriguing to biologists. If Martians evolved during their planet’s earlier, wetter phase, the continued presence of water means it is just about possible that a few especially hardy types have survived until the present day—clinging on in dwindling pockets of dampness in the way that some “extremophile” bacteria on Earth are able to live in cold, salty and arid environments.

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  1. Let's face it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Life on Mars has already been discovered by somebody, but they're rolling out this news slowly so people don't flip their shit.

    1. Re:Let's face it... by Maritz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Considering even if there is life on Mars it's going to be a long long way from Little Green Men I don't see why anyone except creationists would flip their shit. And even then, creationists and cdesignproponentists will ignore it and do the fingers in ears na-na-na thing. So nothing really would change except smart people would redefine their picture of the universe.

      Even at that, considering how much material Earth and Mars have exchanged over billions of years, it wouldn't even really be that amazing for single cell life to be on Mars, especially if it has a common origin with life on Earth. If we proved beyond doubt that it had an independent origin, THAT would be big.

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    2. Re:Let's face it... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Take a look at this article from Answers in Genesis".

      Do you actually know any fundamentalists? They are the people most likely to believe in alien abductions, crop circles, astrology, etc. They don't really care that these beliefs may be incompatible with scripture (which they mostly haven't actually read). Besides, I don't see any incompatibility between the Bible and ETL. God could have created ETL the same time He created life on earth. It would be no more "proof" of evolution than all the other overwhelming evidence that is already ignored by fundamentalists. Some Mormon fundamentalists have an affirmative belief in ETL, and see no incompatibility between that belief and the Bible.

      The discovery of some bacteria on Mars is not going to cause the collapse of religion, and will make no difference at all to most people's beliefs.

    3. Re:Let's face it... by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For the sake of all that is Holy, don't take those Answers in Genesis wackos as speaking for all Christians. Science and Christianity are compatible.

      Uh, no. They are not. More generally, science and religious dogma are incompatible. One is a rational approach to knowledge and understanding, and the other is a collection of text purporting to be of divine origin and authority. Those two things are pretty much polar opposites. Now, if you want to argue that "scripture" should only be taken as metaphor... yada yada yada, OK. Fine. Please get all your Christian buddies to do so and then we'll talk. Until then, I will, quite accurately, place most of them in the "picks and chooses the 'word of God' to suit their need" group.

  2. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Using neat imaging technology that allows them to determine the chemical compound of a substance by looking at the light reflected from it

    The author has never heard the term "spectroscopy?"

  3. Re:All the proof we need by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cruz/Palin 2016 - Restoring America from the Liberal War against common sense

    Nah.

    Cthulhu / Dagon 2016 - Why vote for the lesser evil?

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  4. Re:All the proof we need by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would encourage everybody reading the parent post to actually read the article. Just take a look at the image at the top of the article: the overwhelming majority of the planet is heating up, setting all sorts of records, except for one small part of the ocean. And that part of the ocean is getting colder (it appears) because of all the melting fresh water (because the planet is heating up), which is screwing up a major circulation current. And _that_ is their evidence that global warming is a lie: taking a small part of evidence out of context, wilfully mis-interpreting it, and ignoring almost all the rest of the evidence.

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  5. Re:Not to sound like an ass... by RoccamOccam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's hoping something like Tardigrades evolved on Mars too, if so, they'd probably still be revivable today even after a couple billion years.

    An opposing opinion: http://www.popularmechanics.co...

    "If Mars is equally lifeless, that will make exploring--and later settling--the planet much easier. We can go there and return without this particular worry, and we can introduce Earth life without concerns that we'll damage indigenous creatures. Astronauts won't have to be quarantined, and the environmental impact statement, or its interplanetary equivalent, will be easier to determine. On the other hand, if there is life on Mars, things get a lot tougher."

  6. Hey NASA! Pics or it didn't happen... by furry_wookie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pics or it didn't happen...

    Seriously, I wanna SEE some water, not pictures of where we think water used to be, where it was 10 minutes ago and left just before we got there....I wanna see water...real flowing, sparkling, water.

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  7. Re:All the proof we need by cat_jesus · · Score: 5, Funny

    People who resort to hyperbole are worse than Hitler.

  8. Re:Science and Christianity are NOT compatible by Creedo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They seek from the Bible inspiration, a cultural identity, etc., but not doctrine.

    Well, I hate to tell you, but the vast majority of Christians would consider you to be a heretic at best. And the same would happen at any given point in the history of Christianity. Your version might be more intellectually palatable, but don't imagine for a moment that it represents a majority.

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